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I was in there tonight, between 7.45 and 8.45, so yes, early. Rough headcount... 2 ladies in black tops behind the bar. Both fairly lifeless. 2 ladies in blue tops, serving. 2 ladies in white tops. Not sure what they were doing 1 cleaner, 1 older lady (manager? but I've not seen her in there before) Thai manager, and presumably chef 2 ladies in union flag dresses. However, one got changed and left, but as we were leaving there were two more sat outside. Unfortunately little atmosphere, and the gf and I were the only two customers, and the gf wasnt spending anything!! The silence between tracks on the sound system was deafening Food was, as always, good, drinks were as we asked for.

Tell her I hope she got a good price on that dress as half of it was missing. Apparently I shouldn't have been looking... 🙂

Concerns me when I see the word lifeless used as per Painter's view above. Is this part of the problem as well as it takes two to tango. Painter did his bit by patronising a bar and probably expected a better reception. The low season doesn't seem to have brought a desire of those girls touting for business to be overly pro active. I am sure there are some go go bars where money is flowing and girls are unlikely to be called 'lifeless but in the beer bars the lack of positive attitude from the bar staff seems to be the norm. Has it become that boring in the bars?. I remember a bar owner mentioning that you can make your own entertainment by buying drinks all around and acting up, the thing for me is that it should be the girls offering good customer service such that makes you wish to part with your money. How many times have I walked in to a bar with barely a nod of appreciation for my patronage and a lack of attention usually seeing staff engaged in everything but servicing the customers. Low season times should see a more positive attitude from staff not a lack of it so what is going on. Back in the day pre phones and when girls were hungry you could hear the screams of girls trying to entice guys in to their bars and offering immediate attention that made you feel like a million dollars and that was all year round, where did that customer service go. Oh for the days of Subic in the Philippines when the base at Olongapo was still full to the brim with servicemen. Arriving on a jeepney into Subic and listening to the cacophony of the girls eager for your time and money. You were made to feel king and parting with your money was exciting and rewarding. I apologise for reminiscing about something that many have never experienced. Those days seem to have gone by all accounts from reading these threads, very sad.

International food,spag bol & lasagne cooked by a Thai,eaten by an Englishman & a Thai,washed down with a French vin rouge.Lovely! Missus had the lasagne,me the spag bol & about 95% of the vino.

Who said it was going to make it any better? Can't posters talk and moan about things on line they same as they would do face to face?

Having slept on it, just the lack of a hello, and a smiling face when we ordered would have meant a lot, and we didn't get either, although we did, I think, get a half hearted thankyou as we walked past the bar to leave. My main concern was the lack of atmosphere; it was to me, cold and unwelcoming. Yes, I remember well Secrets in its heyday, and I suppose I was hoping for a return to this. I was, obviously, disappointed. Talking to the gf (non bg, older, not been in town long, so she says), I dont think she would want to return. In her words, "it borling", although she enjoyed her seafood spaghetti. However, she likes le pub, and was happy to sit there talking to Phil and trying to understand the crazy farang game of "clickit".

"Force the change" Bro .... nothing ever happens by "wondering" ... don't mean to sound like a "dick" but, I am serious ... " Force the change" Even if you are totally not sure which way to go ... just do it ... pick a path and "force the change" and change as appropriate ....

“Poor Old fool,” thought the well-dressed gentleman as he watched an old man fish in a puddle outside a pub. So he invited the old man inside for a drink. As they sipped their whiskeys, the gentleman thought he’d humor the old man and asked, “So how many have you caught today?” The old man replied, “You’re the eighth.”

Moules in a Thai red curry sauce 👍

An inspection this afternoon.

My philosophy ... " pick and stick " through thick and thin .. ! Ziggy is great ... I am in the sea everyday with her ... watching her taking it all in with the biggest smile on her face .... I hope I make her as happy as she makes me !

Tell her to face the camera with her arms in the air. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can somebody please tell Ploy to wear a brassiere.

So, drinks, barfines and girls prices have been driven up crazy by G.B.O. (and landlords) and now they cry that all the usual customers have fecked off to other horizons ? You see, personally if I have 10 k in my pocket I have no problem to spend it all on 100b drinks, 500b bf, and 2500 L.T. Now, if I have the same 10k in my pocket and I see beers at 180b, bf at 1500b, girl at 5k I will think "what a fecking rip off" and the 10k will stay in my pocket. And with it I will rent a villa with pool with a few friends, buy booze at the supermarket, get girls through social media and have a great pool party. Without the feeling of having been ripped off by some greedy "businessmen".

Hmmm... so that's her logic then !!!!!!!!

Best not to have a blow job tonight then mate!

Wondering if it's her somtam or my feet that smell.... I'm sure it's not the latter...

Dinner time now at Bella Italia

Dip me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians lol

You sure that's in Thailand?....Sounds like the UK to me....

Seeing these pics of Scooters is a virtual carbon copy of my experiences in Secrets over the previous 2 years. Staff behind the bar with no energy, no hellos, a couple ladies sitting next to each other in the corner of the bar closest to the bathrooms, heads firmly in a down position on their phones, the bar basically about as welcoming and lively as a proctologists waiting room. True, Painter may have entered with his gf in tow and maybe that caused the ladies to maintain a respectful arm's distance away. But I walked in solo and the welcome wagon didn't exactly shower me with any attention for showing up. I mean, I was dressed well enough, brushed my tooth, even showered using the fruity soaps so as to smell like a bowl of freshly picked lemons, yet still my presence drew about as much excitement as a new toe tagged John Doe at the morgue. Sorry to hear about the guy who has these health problems that are causing him so much pain, but those employees have bills to pay and families to feed. I hope this guy does right by them and pays out whatever salary they have coming. Low season can make the most braggadocio bar owner a cowering, weeping mess. Hope this place can at least survive enough to allow it the benefit of a full "high" season, such as it is, to see if it can gain traction in the ever tightening hospitality bizz in Pattaya and become a nightlife mainstay in the WS neighborhood. Meanwhile, it's low season as well one country over to the east and Ben is going strong 7 nights a week until 5 am, a full house of girls, busy bartenders fixing drinks and cooks in the kitchen prepping late night eats, customers butts in seats, a live band cranking out high energy rock and pop hits, and the cash is flowing. I wonder who's laughing now?

Yes, Sir.

Use Vegemite or you're not true blue!

Drove down to work a few years ago only to see this little guy poke his head out of the engine bay.

Pattaya is currently in the grips of the lowest of low seasons (same dead horse that get flogged every year), hopefully patronage will pick up once high season kicks in.

The Secrets bar always seemed to me to be pretty upscale. I am sure Ben and his cohorts invested a considerable amount of money to get it up and running and then maintain it over the years. Now more $ have been invested by Scooters for the remodel. It is really sad to see that it appears from the photos I have seen that there seems to be little customer interest. IMO got to be one of the biggest fails in Pattaya in terms of return for the $ invested. No surprise Ben got out and maybe not as soon as he would have liked.

the days of walking into bar and the ladies rushed over help seat you and offer hot/cold washers and maybe give you a quick feel are long gone,let alone come behind you and give you a shoulder massage,while you had a reach round for a discreet/or not so discreet, touch up are long gone. there are still plenty of places you can have laugh and some friendly grope or three.well it was when I was last there. SHIT!!!!!!! that was a few years ago,ya stupid old bastard thanks Khun S, I got in first regards grayray

I got to say I disagree as many times with my ex wife back in the early 2000's I went into Secrets and other customer friendly bars and was welcomed and made to feel my patronage was appreciated. Staff were interested in us, they made us feel welcome without needing to sit on our laps all night and were happy to make polite conversation if required. What I am gaining by many of the comments here are that many of these bars now treat you as little more than a piece of the furniture without need to offer a reasonable level of service. I have been to many no hassle bars but the level of service (even if in a couple unit) is such that I would wish to return and will remember my night for what was on offer including the smiles and eagerness to serve. Go into Le Pub and Phil will make you welcome, he won't stay in your face all night but those staff contracted to take care of me do in such a way as I am made to feel special and welcome. I leave with a positive view and not one of negativity which is the case in more and more bars now. It is no wonder to me that some bars fold and close down.

Sitting in le pub, trying to explain cricket to the Thai gf. It's not going well....!!

They've called Blatter in for questioning too. Hope the corrupt fuckers get jailed.

They handed me a green wet suit, told them to get that to f**k, only blue for me 😁 Aye, beautiful place, pics don't do it justice, but the sea really is turquoise. Diving was good as well. Not Thailand standards, but good none the less!

Left over mince on toast.

Dinner time now at Mai Thai

Paul is the sole owner. Although he did not have to do so he made a promise to pay all staff for the month of March when Secrets was basically shut for the rebranding exercise and the staff had an additional extended paid holiday. That he did out of his own pocket but as he apparently explained to the staff who returned at a meeting the payment of future wages would need to be spread throughout each month. Those who have met Paul will have found him to be a very down to earth and likeable individual but also a very private person. He is not a person given to posting on social media and forums. I think he might not be too pleased at me commenting here about him but I really like the guy and I do not believe he deserves much of the flak being directed at him. I have no idea about the figures involved, it is quite literally none of my business, but I have a good idea that he risked much to do his best to turn Secrets around and keep all the staff in paid employment. Now for the news that I am sure he would not be too pleased at me for posting. Paul had a reoccurance of the problems associated with a tumour he has in his back. He had succesful treatment which ended a couple of years ago but as the tumour is right next to his spine a small "dormant" residual remains. Some weeks ago It moved slightly and is pressing on a nerve causing Paul absolute agony. So bad it has made walking difficult. Whilst some members have been demanding information or salivating at the thought of the possible demise of the business, Paul has been having protracted treatment to try to move it as a patient in BPH. Pattaya is suffering from the lowest of low seasons. It remains to be seen which venue's come out the other side or even if there is another side?

This lot are in the bar tonight, with live cricket, great music videos (the best system), aircon and all night beer bar prices.

Remember in the old days when you would get a “par yen” (cold towel) when you sat down at the bar? At Le Pub you still do AND we have air conditioning inside....BUT... we still charge beer bar prices.

David Beckham gets into a taxi at Dublin Airport. He watches the driver looking at him for a full five minutes in the rear view mirror. Eventually the driver asks "OK, give me a clue then?" Beckam sighs and replies... "Well, I had a glittering career with Manchester United, married a Spice Girl and played well over 100 times for England... Is that enough?" The driver replies... "No, you thick c**t, where are you going?"