jcolorado Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 9 hours ago, monkey_omelette said: I certainly hope the Beer Garden has not shut for good. I usually have 1 meal per day in there. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Possibly with the refit of the beer bars his entrance walkway may also be getting an improvement or a separation. This could be the reason for a temporary closure along with the fact that there is no money to be made right now there until things loosen up a bit more. Best wishes for the place to reopen and do well again! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteregg Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Some friends went to see Moulie last night. She was working there.Will get an update asap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Pubs, bars and entertainment venues will be allowed to reopen in the coming weeks if the daily count of new virus cases stays in single digits, the government’s Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) announced on Tuesday (May 19). CCSA spokesman Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin said the number of shoppers surged on Sunday as low-risk and moderate-risk businesses (listed “white” and “green”, respectively) reopened as second-phase restrictions were eased and the ThaiChana contact-tracing platform was deployed. He added that social distancing improved on Monday. Dr Taweesin said “red” businesses (medium to high risk) would be allowed to reopen in the fourth phase of relaxation, depending on the daily case count. He reported that the Covid-19 situation is improving, with new daily cases dropping to single digits for the past 22 days. The CCSA will assess the situation every 14 days. If the single-digit trend continues, reopening of “red” businesses is likely to come faster, he added. Taweesin emphasised that everyone should keep their guard high to maintain the low infection rate, which would help everyday life return and boost customers’ confidence in “red” businesses. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Taweesin emphasised that everyone should keep their guard high to maintain the low infection rate, which would help everyday life return and boost customers’ confidence in “red” businesses. https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388123 Not sure how that is going to work in a bar situation or P4P situations. At the moment anyway. . My guess is that once the entertainment sector open for business and tourists begin to arrive then most people will revert to what it used to be. The problem, I believe, will be the risk of tourists bringing the virus with them and then spreading it. It only takes a few. So it depends, I guess, on what precautions or restrictions are taken at Thai Immigration. Thailand seems quite fortunate with very low number of cases but many countries of whom some will be visitors, are still. Catching up. If Thailand opens up its borders to all countries entering the Kingdom then that could provide problems. Maybe that is why they are taking things slowly on the side of caution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said: Not sure how that is going to work in a bar situation or P4P situations. At the moment anyway. . My guess is that once the entertainment sector open for business and tourists begin to arrive then most people will revert to what it used to be. The problem, I believe, will be the risk of tourists bringing the virus with them and then spreading it. It only takes a few. So it depends, I guess, on what precautions or restrictions are taken at Thai Immigration. Thailand seems quite fortunate with very low number of cases but many countries of whom some will be visitors, are still. Catching up. If Thailand opens up its borders to all countries entering the Kingdom then that could provide problems. Maybe that is why they are taking things slowly on the side of caution Social distancing will just become more and more ignored as the months go on. Not a sustainable way of living. It will be business as usual by Christmas time in the bars, though I suspect there will be the usual Thai window dressing of 'crackdowns' and bars being shut for a day or two here and there. On the whole, it is positive news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Social distancing will just become more and more ignored as the months go on. Not a sustainable way of living. It will be business as usual by Christmas time in the bars, though I suspect there will be the usual Thai window dressing of 'crackdowns' and bars being shut for a day or two here and there. On the whole, it is positive news. Agreed. They MUST get back to normal if they want their holiday industry to flourish.Nobody in their right mind going to sit on a flight for 13 hours, wearing a mask going through body temp checks before departure, to be met with bars closed and everyone scared of a virus. The HIV scam never scared em, the covid scam won't either. Edited May 20, 2020 by farangme 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, farangme said: Agreed. They MUST get back to normal if they want their holiday industry to flourish.Nobody in their right mind going to sit on a flight for 13 hours, wearing a mask going through body temp checks before departure, to be met with bars closed and everyone scared of a virus. The HIV scam never scared em, the covid scam won't either. Social distancing in bars just won't work. Nobody goes to a bar to sit at a table on their own, and not be able to chat and mingle with others. Like everything in Thailand, there will be some absurd rules enforced on bars when they reopen, but gradually as the months roll on they will be ignored until they are revoked altogether. The main hurdle for bars is the restrictions imposed on international travel, and the conditions in European countries. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 If bars get the go ahead to open next month, I am not sure that all of them will reopen straight away. With few customers they could actually run at a loss with the costs of overheads outweighing income. There are thousands of bars all over Pattaya as there are in BKK Until tourists are allowed in and airlines reintroduce routes to Thailand then there will still be a hiatus in returning to business as usual. Plus lots of folk from all over have been financially affected by the consequences of C19 and may consider whether they can afford to travel.. I reckon it will take several months to pick up and during that time, unfortunately, some of those bars will close for good. The same with staff. I doubt whether employees including Thai females will all jump on a bus straight away. They will have to pay for accommodation and food etc and with few customers to start with, that could be tough That said, if and when the Global infection rate starts to decline more rapidly and people feel confident to fly again then it would be nice to imagine that some of us could be back as soon as August/September Personally speaking, I already had a bag packed just before the outbreak of the virus but............ I would still rather wait on a month to month, week to week basis until I see that it's worth going too early. I would be so happy even if it were November/December and have a real binge after months of lockdown providing that the C19 numbers stay very low or at zero. I doubt there will be much of a problem finding hotel rooms and there could be some bargains with discount deals to start filling up their rooms. Prices generally could go down initially with more competition for less punters Let's hope for happier days ahead 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 37 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said: If bars get the go ahead to open next month, I am not sure that all of them will reopen straight away. With few customers they could actually run at a loss with the costs of overheads outweighing income. There are thousands of bars all over Pattaya as there are in BKK Until tourists are allowed in and airlines reintroduce routes to Thailand then there will still be a hiatus in returning to business as usual. Plus lots of folk from all over have been financially affected by the consequences of C19 and may consider whether they can afford to travel.. I reckon it will take several months to pick up and during that time, unfortunately, some of those bars will close for good. The same with staff. I doubt whether employees including Thai females will all jump on a bus straight away. They will have to pay for accommodation and food etc and with few customers to start with, that could be tough That said, if and when the Global infection rate starts to decline more rapidly and people feel confident to fly again then it would be nice to imagine that some of us could be back as soon as August/September Personally speaking, I already had a bag packed just before the outbreak of the virus but............ I would still rather wait on a month to month, week to week basis until I see that it's worth going too early. I would be so happy even if it were November/December and have a real binge after months of lockdown providing that the C19 numbers stay very low or at zero. I doubt there will be much of a problem finding hotel rooms and there could be some bargains with discount deals to start filling up their rooms. Prices generally could go down initially with more competition for less punters Let's hope for happier days ahead Great post. There will be barowners praying that the govt doesn't allow the reopening of bars. When that happens what little sympathy their landlords showed them will run out, and the will be demanding 100% rent. Couple with increased staffing, stock and utilities costs, they could end up losing more money than when they were shut. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, dcfc2007 said: Great post. There will be barowners praying that the govt doesn't allow the reopening of bars. When that happens what little sympathy their landlords showed them will run out, and the will be demanding 100% rent. Couple with increased staffing, stock and utilities costs, they could end up losing more money than when they were shut. It's going to be difficult to balance it. All about people coming back. If bars are shut they won't come if bars are open but losing money at least that negative should turn positive when people come back. Difficult as there's not a lot of profit just running a little bar at the best of times. It's more of a hobby than anything else. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, farangme said: It's going to be difficult to balance it. All about people coming back. If bars are shut they won't come if bars are open but losing money at least that negative should turn positive when people come back. Difficult as there's not a lot of profit just running a little bar at the best of times. It's more of a hobby than anything else. I still think the biggest barrier to tourists returning will be the situation in their home countries. The UK is going to impose a 14 day quarantine period for all arrivals into the country apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteregg Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Those gogos on Walking Street that cater mainly to Japs and Koreans will not be opening till high season. That from several owners. Also, one very famous gogo which has been around for decades is now closed permanently following the death of the owner and rent issues. Can’t say which one, sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 7 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: I still think the biggest barrier to tourists returning will be the situation in their home countries. The UK is going to impose a 14 day quarantine period for all arrivals into the country apparently. Exactly. Nobody is going to undertake "tourist" travel when quarantine/isolation restrictions apply at one's destination and/or return to home country. My two UK based daughters plus a grandaughter were originally due to visit me in Thailand in June then subsequently flights rebooked for the 29 August which is the last possible date that they can depart. None of us still think that is going to happen any more. I cannot contemplate a situation where the four (or five) of us could not sit on a beach or in a restaurant together! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, misteregg said: Those gogos on Walking Street that cater mainly to Japs and Koreans will not be opening till high season. That from several owners. Also, one very famous gogo which has been around for decades is now closed permanently following the death of the owner and rent issues. Can’t say which one, sorry. There must be many gogo's and bars with similar rent issues. Everybody is so focused on the dramatic effects of Covid19 that they are totally ignoring how bad business had generally been in Pattaya PRIOR to anyone ever having heard of this pandemic. With a few noteable exceptions empty bars and gogo's had often been remarked upon in this and other forums. It had become exceedingly hard to know when the low season ended and the high season started. Unless the baht weakens ( appears highly unlikely) that situation was not going to change with regard to encouraging western pussy hounds. The Covid19 restrictions just added to the problems which already existed. Expats will keep things ticking over this year once bars can reopen. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR007 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Theres only one "famous" Go Go thats been around for decades having racked my brains and it sits on Beach Rd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR007 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo said: Expats will keep things ticking over this year once bars can reopen. Really ?? What percentage of the normal numbers in Pattaya at any time of the year are Expats ?? 15% tops (and thats being very generous.) Bars were in a death spiral pre covid but with just expats visiting I'd doubt they'll cover the utility bills let alone any salaries 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RR007 said: Theres only one "famous" Go Go thats been around for decades having racked my brains and it sits on Beach Rd Not saying you are wrong but what about the likes of Classroom and Far East Rock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 16 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: Social distancing in bars just won't work. Nobody goes to a bar to sit at a table on their own, and not be able to chat and mingle with others. Plenty of people like to enjoy a beer in peace and quite but guys like you won't let them 😄 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washedup Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Esco said: Plenty of people like to enjoy a beer in peace and quite but guys like you won't let them 😄 I've always socially distanced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR007 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, Esco said: Not saying you are wrong but what about the likes of Classroom and Far East Rock. Possibly but I wouldnt really call them famous per se. The one I'm deliberately not naming was the very first in Pattaya.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcharliemofo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Washedup said: I've always socially distanced I've always been ignored so it wouldn't affect me at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It will be odd to see how social distancing takes place in bars as the whole point of visiting Pattaya for many is the close companionship offered by the lovely ladies. Not really interested in buying ladies drinks if the lady is 2 meters away and for those who wish to have an escort for the night it would be interesting to hear how they managed to have sex while socially distancing. OK, might be a positive for those guys who wish to drink in bars and not be pestered by the girls but I can not see guys traveling to Thailand and having to adhere to distancing rules, just won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, RR007 said: Theres only one "famous" Go Go thats been around for decades having racked my brains and it sits on Beach Rd TQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post farangme Posted May 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Horizondave said: It will be odd to see how social distancing takes place in bars as the whole point of visiting Pattaya for many is the close companionship offered by the lovely ladies. Not really interested in buying ladies drinks if the lady is 2 meters away and for those who wish to have an escort for the night it would be interesting to hear how they managed to have sex while socially distancing. OK, might be a positive for those guys who wish to drink in bars and not be pestered by the girls but I can not see guys traveling to Thailand and having to adhere to distancing rules, just won't happen Dave, if they do social distancing in bars the place is toast as far as bars are concerned. The entire P4P scene in Thailand is toast for that matter. They didn't social distance when H.I.V. was in daily headlines, they wont stay two metres apart. Now, not a negative sentence but a factual one. People sit in pressurised tubes for 13 to 20 hours just to get there and have intimacy with the ladies, remove that and there's pretty much no reason to visit. Spain, Portugal, Europe etc a much classier and better holiday destination. However, if there are social distancing rules and they are not observed, what this does is give the Thai Police a reason to collect money, wherever and whenever they choose. Edited May 21, 2020 by farangme 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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