dcfc2007 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Stillearly said: It's ironic that expats used to disparage the two week millionaire types on the forums , but without them the future is bleak for a lot of bars The offshore guys help to keep some bars ticking over during low season, no sign of them getting in anytime soon, it really looks bleak. I was one of the more optimistic people when this all went to shit, but the only hope I see for a swift recovery for the bars, is this Oxford vaccine coming good in September. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washedup Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: The offshore guys help to keep some bars ticking over during low season, no sign of them getting in anytime soon, it really looks bleak. I was one of the more optimistic people when this all went to shit, but the only hope I see for a swift recovery for the bars, is this Oxford vaccine coming good in September. Got to hope the 2020 flu season isn't a bugger, a double whammy will not be good..better Hold Fast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Washedup said: Got to hope the 2020 flu season isn't a bugger, a double whammy will not be good..better Hold Fast Sir the flu, cancer, heart attacks, people dying from shark attacks don't exist anymore......Now people only get sick and die from Corona.... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1000 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 For sure many households in the provinces are missing the extra income BGs provide. This has a knock on effect by not spending on businesses in their area. Just hope Thai immigration don't make too many hoops to jump through on returning to Thailand whenever that is possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkey_omelette Posted July 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, fforest said: Sir the flu, cancer, heart attacks, people dying from shark attacks don't exist anymore......Now people only get sick and die from Corona.... 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: The offshore guys help to keep some bars ticking over during low season, no sign of them getting in anytime soon, it really looks bleak. I was one of the more optimistic people when this all went to shit, but the only hope I see for a swift recovery for the bars, is this Oxford vaccine coming good in September. Classroom was entirely financed by the MOD at one point it seemed. I never took a girl from Classroom, based purely upon the fact she had most probably been shagged by half of the UK's Infantry battalions at one point or another. I also remember a couple of roughnecks putting an inordinate amount of money across one of the Soi 6 bars back in the day. You're right, until a proven vaccine hits the shelves Govts will be crapping themselves in fear of having to lockdown for a second / third wave, especially when they reflect on the damage the first one has done. Tough times indeed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, Butch said: Classroom was entirely financed by the MOD at one point it seemed. I never took a girl from Classroom, based purely upon the fact she had most probably been shagged by half of the UK's Infantry battalions at one point or another. I also remember a couple of roughnecks putting an inordinate amount of money across one of the Soi 6 bars back in the day. You're right, until a proven vaccine hits the shelves Govts will be crapping themselves in fear of having to lockdown for a second / third wave, especially when they reflect on the damage the first one has done. Tough times indeed. Well the UK govt has signed a deal to get 10 million doses of the Oxford vaccine, so they must be fairly certain it's going to work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbhoytim Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Well the UK govt has signed a deal to get 10 million doses of the Oxford vaccine, so they must be fairly certain it's going to work. Aye, but they spent billions on a track and trace app, they were certain that would work 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Well the UK govt has signed a deal to get 10 million doses of the Oxford vaccine, so they must be fairly certain it's going to work. Only if it successful and approved, so the Govt are hedging their bets that it will. If it doesn't get approved it's cost the Govt nothing (well, slightly wrong of me to say that because they funded Vaccine research to the tune of 65million sovs last month). It is still on trial in Brazil with 5000 people since June 20th , nothing is certain until it's trial is over and it gets the nod for public use in humans and Man U fans. Fingers crossed. Edited July 10, 2020 by Butch 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickrock Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Butch said: Only if it successful and approved, so the Govt are hedging their bets that it will. If it doesn't get approved it's cost the Govt nothing (well, slightly wrong of me to say that because they funded Vaccine research to the tune of 65million sovs last month). It is still on trial in Brazil with 5000 people since June 20th , nothing is certain until it's trial is over and it gets the nod for public use in humans and Man U fans. Fingers crossed. So are man u fans sub human or super human and don't need vaccine Not being a soccer fan I wouldn't know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondropkid Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: Well the UK govt has signed a deal to get 10 million doses of the Oxford vaccine, so they must be fairly certain it's going to work. Oxford are very confident it's going to work but part a big part of their rationale is speed to market by running different phases of development in parallel that they'd would normally be done slowly and sequentially. As part of this they'd always planned to have large amount of a candidate vaccine ready if early stage trials were passed. So if the candidate vaccine passed the later trial phases they'd be a sufficiently large stock good to go. A huge punt basically but one that has to be makes sense to take on and looks like a cheap throwaway bet, set along side the rest of the Government's spending. Edited July 10, 2020 by Lemondropkid 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesitisdakid Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Well it seems the triangle bar got an inspection from the boys in blue last night they only complied with seven of the 22 rules and were told they will be inspected tonight and shut down if all is not up to par. This from the owner on Facebook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said: Oxford are very confident it's going to work.. There's a strong belief from early testing that even if it doesn't work as a vaccine, it will be effective as a treatment/theraputic to alleviate severe outcomes, which would be very useful to say the least. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Knuckles said: There's a strong belief from early testing that even if it doesn't work as a vaccine, it will be effective as a treatment/theraputic to alleviate severe outcomes, which would be very useful to say the least. A vaccin is not a cure, it is prevention. But anyway, business is business, so whatever sells best ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Yesitisdakid said: Well it seems the triangle bar got an inspection from the boys in blue last night they only complied with seven of the 22 rules and were told they will be inspected tonight and shut down if all is not up to par. This from the owner on Facebook Bryan Flowers has made another post alluding to 'local donstiins' being demanded. Maybe the cops are looking more money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Washedup Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, dcfc2007 said: Could get really messy! better Hold Fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dcfc2007 Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Washedup said: Could get really messy! better Hold Fast What's interesting is that AJ who is the writer for the Pattaya News and NWG manager, described walking street as being very busy, in fact I think he used the word 'heaving'. Somebody called him Pattaya's Chemical Ali. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 18 hours ago, fforest said: Sir the flu, cancer, heart attacks, people dying from shark attacks don't exist anymore......Now people only get sick and die from Corona.... I cancelled my accidental death by shark attack insurance so I just have being f***d ( as in sat on ) by an elephant cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Thai Spice said: A vaccin is not a cure, it is prevention. But anyway, business is business, so whatever sells best ! And unless the whole world makes it compulsary for all citizens to be vaccinated (which is obviously never going to happen) not only is it not a magical cure but it will never totally eliminate Covid and it will take far longer than a few months to make a substantial difference. We can forget about this year for certain and maybe next for that substantial difference having an effect assuming a new working vaccine emerges later this year. At the risk of being boring in repeating this, the USA has between 30 - 50 million individuals who go down with influenza every year which could have been prevented by vaccination. Many people still die from influenza world wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washedup Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, dcfc2007 said: What's interesting is that AJ who is the writer for the Pattaya News and NWG manager, described walking street as being very busy, in fact I think he used the word 'heaving'. Somebody called him Pattaya's Chemical Ali. He's been called worse! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Jambo said: And unless the whole world makes it compulsary for all citizens to be vaccinated (which is obviously never going to happen) not only is it not a magical cure but it will never totally eliminate Covid and it will take far longer than a few months to make a substantial difference. We can forget about this year for certain and maybe next for that substantial difference having an effect assuming a new working vaccine emerges later this year. At the risk of being boring in repeating this, the USA has between 30 - 50 million individuals who go down with influenza every year which could have been prevented by vaccination. Many people still die from influenza world wide. What! How dare you! The conspiracy nutters on the forum will be up in arms, that's the whole plan man, get everyone microchipped, controlled, brainwashed. something like that, by the vaccination. Get with the program, NWO, we're all sheeple .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Washedup said: He's been called worse! No issue with people trying to put a brave face on things, but come on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzalad Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just seen this on Pattaya one news but I guess we all know already... Nearly one-third of tourism-related businesses ‘may shut down permanently’ About one-third of tourism business operators in Thailand will run out of liquidity to keep their businesses afloat in the second half of 2020, Tourism Council of Thailand president Chairat Trirattanajarasporn has warned. “The impact of Covid-19 will become most serious in the third quarter this year after many operators had tried to cut costs by letting some of their employees go, but after more than a million positions cut the situation still hasn’t improved, as no foreign tourists are allowed into the country yet,” he said. “The council estimates that in the next three months up to 30 per cent of tourism-related businesses in Thailand are at risk of shutting down permanently.” Chairat added that some operators are starting to sell their establishments, such as hotels, resorts, restaurants and gift shops to investors who wish to turn them into other business. “However, since the real estate business is also affected by the economic crisis, the hope of selling their properties is still bleak for these owners,” he added. “The council had a meeting with Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha on Friday (July 10) and proposed five measures to help tourism business operators,” said Chairat. “These measures are: providing soft loans to tourism entrepreneurs; considering moving the schedule up to open the country to foreign tourists under a practice similar to the travel bubble scheme; offering discount on electricity bills, one of the main costs of hotel operators; having the Social Security Office extend the compensation payment to temporarily unemployed staff from June to December, and reducing the employer’s contribution to Social Security Fund from 4 percent to 1 percent.” Chairat also added that the Tourism Council of Thailand has predicted the income from foreign tourists in 2020 will drop significantly from Bt2.2 trillion last year to only around Bt600 billion. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Lanzalad said: Just seen this on Pattaya one news but I guess we all know already... Nearly one-third of tourism-related businesses ‘may shut down permanently’ About one-third of tourism business operators in Thailand will run out of liquidity to keep their businesses afloat in the second half of 2020, Tourism Council of Thailand president Chairat Trirattanajarasporn has warned. “The impact of Covid-19 will become most serious in the third quarter this year after many operators had tried to cut costs by letting some of their employees go, but after more than a million positions cut the situation still hasn’t improved, as no foreign tourists are allowed into the country yet,” he said. “The council estimates that in the next three months up to 30 per cent of tourism-related businesses in Thailand are at risk of shutting down permanently.” Chairat added that some operators are starting to sell their establishments, such as hotels, resorts, restaurants and gift shops to investors who wish to turn them into other business. “However, since the real estate business is also affected by the economic crisis, the hope of selling their properties is still bleak for these owners,” he added. “The council had a meeting with Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha on Friday (July 10) and proposed five measures to help tourism business operators,” said Chairat. “These measures are: providing soft loans to tourism entrepreneurs; considering moving the schedule up to open the country to foreign tourists under a practice similar to the travel bubble scheme; offering discount on electricity bills, one of the main costs of hotel operators; having the Social Security Office extend the compensation payment to temporarily unemployed staff from June to December, and reducing the employer’s contribution to Social Security Fund from 4 percent to 1 percent.” Chairat also added that the Tourism Council of Thailand has predicted the income from foreign tourists in 2020 will drop significantly from Bt2.2 trillion last year to only around Bt600 billion. If social media and the news is anything to go by, the situation on Koh Chang, Koh samui and Phuket is much worse than in Pattaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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