tommy dee Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 there we go , an honest reply. lets be fair to danny and the owner and let them sort it out in peace. as said this is the toughest of low seasons with most going into it already inthe hole as opposed to years ago when they could wedge up in the high season. this is a very unforgiving marketplace, pattaya, and it will only the toughest and most determined who come out of the other side. many have key money and annual rent to pay I am seeing fear in the eyes of much bigger businesses than bars right now. it will, as always, come out ok but when is another question 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 9 hours ago, tommy dee said: there we go , an honest reply. lets be fair to danny and the owner and let them sort it out in peace. as said this is the toughest of low seasons with most going into it already inthe hole as opposed to years ago when they could wedge up in the high season. this is a very unforgiving marketplace, pattaya, and it will only the toughest and most determined who come out of the other side. many have key money and annual rent to pay I am seeing fear in the eyes of much bigger businesses than bars right now. it will, as always, come out ok but when is another question Why? It's a useful thread showing the perils and pitfalls of trying to run a business in Pattaya. Might serve as a warning to others. It's not just a matter of opening the doors and the dosh comes rolling in. After first discovering Pattaya in '79, for years I kept on wondering how to get back and "live the dream". And any time I considered owning an entertainment establishment my business plan said "have sufficient reserves to carry the place for 12 months" and be prepared not to make money, i.e. do more than just cover operating expenses, for several years after that. And that's why I never owned an entertainment venue in Pattaya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai Spice Posted June 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2019 9 hours ago, tommy dee said: there we go , an honest reply. lets be fair to danny and the owner and let them sort it out in peace. as said this is the toughest of low seasons with most going into it already inthe hole as opposed to years ago when they could wedge up in the high season. this is a very unforgiving marketplace, pattaya, and it will only the toughest and most determined who come out of the other side. many have key money and annual rent to pay I am seeing fear in the eyes of much bigger businesses than bars right now. it will, as always, come out ok but when is another question So, drinks, barfines and girls prices have been driven up crazy by G.B.O. (and landlords) and now they cry that all the usual customers have fecked off to other horizons ? You see, personally if I have 10 k in my pocket I have no problem to spend it all on 100b drinks, 500b bf, and 2500 L.T. Now, if I have the same 10k in my pocket and I see beers at 180b, bf at 1500b, girl at 5k I will think "what a fecking rip off" and the 10k will stay in my pocket. And with it I will rent a villa with pool with a few friends, buy booze at the supermarket, get girls through social media and have a great pool party. Without the feeling of having been ripped off by some greedy "businessmen". 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesitisdakid Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The more time that goes by the more I have to believe that Barry L and Thai Spice are correct. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR007 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 13 hours ago, nampla69 said: Is this true both Pig and Whistle and Rosie's gone ???? Both were always busy over the years and walked past them last month but did not really look. We need Big John or Striderman to do a recce! Thanks to BM Jambo and hope Paul gets well soon. Agree really nice bloke. Pig and Whistle closed on 31st May 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcharliemofo Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Highlighted are the answers form "Deepthroat" did they all go or not go ?Some did but they got spun another story about him turning up at 11 tonight. she is going at 11 to see if he shows up bet theres a great atmosphere thereYeah.... Paul didn't show up but somehow they have been promised to be paid in the 25th (yeah right!). No other news oh FFS...the smell of bullshit is overpowering nowYeahAnyway they aren't going back so not going to lose anything more. how many have quit ?Dunno. At least 4 Update from just now. Just spoke to her. He did go but hid in the office at the hotel and didn't face the staff. The staff got relayed the message by the thai manager. He also said that anyone who was taking a break or went to work elsewhere could not come back because they "didn't support him" or words to that effect. He obviously doesn't realise most of these girls work month to month for their money, and don't have cash reserves. Edited June 11, 2019 by mrcharliemofo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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barsie Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 7:34 AM, mrcharliemofo said: Highlighted are the answers form "Deepthroat" did they all go or not go ?Some did but they got spun another story about him turning up at 11 tonight. she is going at 11 to see if he shows up bet theres a great atmosphere thereYeah.... Paul didn't show up but somehow they have been promised to be paid in the 25th (yeah right!). No other news oh FFS...the smell of bullshit is overpowering nowYeahAnyway they aren't going back so not going to lose anything more. how many have quit ?Dunno. At least 4 Update from just now. Just spoke to her. He did go but hid in the office at the hotel and didn't face the staff. The staff got relayed the message by the thai manager. He also said that anyone who was taking a break or went to work elsewhere could not come back because they "didn't support him" or words to that effect. He obviously doesn't realise most of these girls work month to month for their money, and don't have cash reserves. That's exactly how I heard it went. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 2:34 PM, mrcharliemofo said: Paul didn't show up but somehow they have been promised to be paid in the 25th (yeah right!). No other news oh FFS...the smell of bullshit is overpowering now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Is this bar still opening? It appears no one really cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, Parry said: Is this bar still opening? It appears no one really cares If it is your type of place then go visit, always good to get the updates from people who are in Pattaya.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Parry said: Is this bar still opening? It appears no one really cares Strange first post , WTTB 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Still open? Shut indefinitely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzalad Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Parry said: Still open? Shut indefinitely? Strange second post...? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Lanzalad said: Strange second post...? Can't wait for the third post 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesitisdakid Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Parry said: Still open? Shut indefinitely? I give up is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Yesitisdakid said: I give up is it? Well I had lunch in Scooters yesterday and expect to again on Friday. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jambo said: Well I had lunch in Scooters yesterday and expect to again on Friday. 🙂 A week is a long time in Pattaya... (I don't think Michael Caine said that but he might have). Edited June 18, 2019 by fygjam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Parry said: Still open? Shut indefinitely? Still open if you read the thread, what is your thoughts on that, are you going to pop by.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Painter Posted June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) I was in there tonight, between 7.45 and 8.45, so yes, early. Rough headcount... 2 ladies in black tops behind the bar. Both fairly lifeless. 2 ladies in blue tops, serving. 2 ladies in white tops. Not sure what they were doing 1 cleaner, 1 older lady (manager? but I've not seen her in there before) Thai manager, and presumably chef 2 ladies in union flag dresses. However, one got changed and left, but as we were leaving there were two more sat outside. Unfortunately little atmosphere, and the gf and I were the only two customers, and the gf wasnt spending anything!! The silence between tracks on the sound system was deafening Food was, as always, good, drinks were as we asked for. Edited June 18, 2019 by Painter Add pics 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Horizondave Posted June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 Concerns me when I see the word lifeless used as per Painter's view above. Is this part of the problem as well as it takes two to tango. Painter did his bit by patronising a bar and probably expected a better reception. The low season doesn't seem to have brought a desire of those girls touting for business to be overly pro active. I am sure there are some go go bars where money is flowing and girls are unlikely to be called 'lifeless but in the beer bars the lack of positive attitude from the bar staff seems to be the norm. Has it become that boring in the bars?. I remember a bar owner mentioning that you can make your own entertainment by buying drinks all around and acting up, the thing for me is that it should be the girls offering good customer service such that makes you wish to part with your money. How many times have I walked in to a bar with barely a nod of appreciation for my patronage and a lack of attention usually seeing staff engaged in everything but servicing the customers. Low season times should see a more positive attitude from staff not a lack of it so what is going on. Back in the day pre phones and when girls were hungry you could hear the screams of girls trying to entice guys in to their bars and offering immediate attention that made you feel like a million dollars and that was all year round, where did that customer service go. Oh for the days of Subic in the Philippines when the base at Olongapo was still full to the brim with servicemen. Arriving on a jeepney into Subic and listening to the cacophony of the girls eager for your time and money. You were made to feel king and parting with your money was exciting and rewarding. I apologise for reminiscing about something that many have never experienced. Those days seem to have gone by all accounts from reading these threads, very sad. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 But if you enter with your own company you are unlikely to get much interaction with the staff , Secrets and Scooters are both no hassle bars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampla69 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, Painter said: I was in there tonight, between 7.45 and 8.45, so yes, early. Rough headcount... 2 ladies in black tops behind the bar. Both fairly lifeless. 2 ladies in blue tops, serving. 2 ladies in white tops. Not sure what they were doing 1 cleaner, 1 older lady (manager? but I've not seen her in there before) Thai manager, and presumably chef 2 ladies in union flag dresses. However, one got changed and left, but as we were leaving there were two more sat outside. Unfortunately little atmosphere, and the gf and I were the only two customers, and the gf wasnt spending anything!! The silence between tracks on the sound system was deafening Food was, as always, good, drinks were as we asked for. You have a GF !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, Stillearly said: But if you enter with your own company you are unlikely to get much interaction with the staff , Secrets and Scooters are both no hassle bars Agreed, and I have no objection to being ignored in this situation. 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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