Glasseye Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Never been there, never will be there. https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1711928/huge-chinese-influx-divides-sihanoukville 1
Thai Spice Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Or how to go for the quick money and destroy a whole city..... Anyway, remember Belt and Road project. Laos and Cambodia are on the target list and both already well on the way of being owned by China. 1
Bazle Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Whenever I've been to my bank in Pattaya in recent months, it seems to be full of Chinese wanting to open accounts. Chinese domination of the town could happen in Patts as well.
Stillearly Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bazle said: Whenever I've been to my bank in Pattaya in recent months, it seems to be full of Chinese wanting to open accounts. Chinese domination of the town could happen in Patts as well. Think it's the Casinos that are the real big draw for the Chinese , as long as gambling remains illegal in Thailand , can't see that happening
Glasseye Posted July 13, 2019 Author Posted July 13, 2019 If they allow it in Patts it'll be the final straw for us. 3
Toy Boy Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 The Chinese are trying to get access to the Cambodian naval base at Ream, just down the coast from Snooky, which is worrying the Americans.
Thai Spice Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Toy Boy said: The Chinese are trying to get access to the Cambodian naval base at Ream, just down the coast from Snooky, which is worrying the Americans. Anywhere in Asia, the Chinese will win. Whatever the US thinks. Same as in Africa. 1
Freee!! Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Anywhere in Asia, the Chinese will win. Whatever the US thinks. Same as in Africa. For some reason I doubt the Chinese will win in Vietnam. OK, the USA will loose, but that is something different again 😉
Thai Spice Posted July 14, 2019 Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Freee!! said: For some reason I doubt the Chinese will win in Vietnam. OK, the USA will loose, but that is something different again 😉 Ok, its a bit of a generalization, they wont win in Japan either ! But plenty Chinese factories being set.up in VN since years because of the lower labour cost.
biggles Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Snooky was such a nice place that 10 years ago mates and I seriously considered long term rental of a house there. Great beaches, lovely people and so low cost Everything I read now from visitors saddens me greatly 1
Thai Spice Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, biggles said: Snooky was such a nice place that 10 years ago mates and I seriously considered long term rental of a house there. Great beaches, lovely people and so low cost Everything I read now from visitors saddens me greatly Yep, I remember reading the same. How things can go south very fast !
Toy Boy Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 My first trip there was 15 years ago and I loved the place, but even back then there were signs that things were changing for the worse. Blue Mountain only had a couple of houses left on it by then, the rest were being closed down by the cops. I don't suppose there's a single house of pleasure left up there now. I had friends who'd been visiting there for longer and they said it was a pale shadow of what once was, and this is in 2004. On my last visit, I think it was 2007, the Chinese invasion had already started. There was a massive new hotel (and casino I guess) that had been given one of the beaches as its own private property. The most expensive hotel had recently opened up on a small island catering to Chinese tourists (and businessmen, I guess), the most expensive room ran to a cool $2000 a night. And this in a country utterly mired in poverty. My first visit coincided with a serious crackdown on armed crime, I was only near one incident involving a gun on that trip at the Fisherman's Den rooftop bar run by Kiwi Brian. The other trips there were no gun incidents, and I appreciated the improved safety. I guess they already knew the Chinese were coming and they would be scared off if there was any untoward shooting so they must have decided to stop it altogether.
farangme Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 It's okay. Have fond memories of the place. Some banks in Snooky when I was there were paying 15% interest on term accounts. Pretty damn good.
nampla69 Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, farangme said: It's okay. Have fond memories of the place. Some banks in Snooky when I was there were paying 15% interest on term accounts. Pretty damn good. Bloke came to do the boiler at my work ...... his boss Scottish mixed race guy I know Muay Thai champion blah blah ... we get chatting. he had a bar in Snooky over 7 years ......... loved it .....one day Cambo authorities basically tell him to off off with minimal compensation. Chinese casinos ......... heard it is horrible these days and I like Cambodia ....... (food is shite). Bit of Wok 'n Rok go down a storm. 1
farangme Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, nampla69 said: Bloke came to do the boiler at my work ...... his boss Scottish mixed race guy I know Muay Thai champion blah blah ... we get chatting. he had a bar in Snooky over 7 years ......... loved it .....one day Cambo authorities basically tell him to off off with minimal compensation. Chinese casinos ......... heard it is horrible these days and I like Cambodia ....... (food is shite). Bit of Wok 'n Rok go down a storm. Was it a beach bar? They bulldozed a lot of them. Yes, many scams but same in Thailand really. In Cambodia the Gov might take it. In Thailand the Thai with the business in Her name might take it. Same same but different. We had no problems at all. They were upfront and honest. Easy visa Can work Cheap cost of living No reporting Can run your own bar and everything in YOUR name Easy monthly tax system. What's not to like about it? Edited July 16, 2019 by farangme 1
Thai Spice Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 The Sihanouville "evolution" is a typical example why you should never invest too much, and always be ready to pack. In this case, I guess the first ones who saw it coming could probably sell at a decent price. Those who waited till being surrounded by Chinese had less choice, take what you get offered, or just watch your business die, go broke and leave with zilch. Story repeated again and again in "colonial" Africa. Except in Africa, many considered themselves lucky to be able to leave alive.
Glasseye Posted July 19, 2019 Author Posted July 19, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 8:39 PM, biggles said: Snooky was such a nice place that 10 years ago mates and I seriously considered long term rental of a house there. Great beaches, lovely people and so low cost Everything I read now from visitors saddens me greatly I was considering a visit back then, briefly. Too late now.
Thai Spice Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Another interesting development. I post this here as it is something similar to what is happening in Sihanoukville , but with a bigger political implication. Could have been poste in China Belt and Road thread, as it is exactly part of that project. Chinese mega-resort in Cambodia raises red flags https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1715883/chinese-mega-resort-in-cambodia-raises-red-flags#cxrecs_s Edited July 21, 2019 by Thai Spice Grammar
STARGAZER Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 12:24 PM, Thai Spice said: Anywhere in Asia, the Chinese will win. Whatever the US thinks. Same as in Africa. Win what?
Glasseye Posted August 12, 2019 Author Posted August 12, 2019 More good news regarding Ch...ks in Cambo. ugh https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1728967/chinese-project-in-cambodia-raises-alarms-of-military-build-up
Thai Spice Posted November 8, 2019 Posted November 8, 2019 The boom is going bust.... Boom to bust for Cambodia’s Chinese casino town https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/11/article/boom-to-bust-for-cambodias-chinese-casino-town/ 1 1
Peter.storm Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Cambodia have made online gambling illegal now so a good few casinos seem to be closing or maybe changing use. It will be interesting to see what happens as things change and the Chinese thin out. 1
Rompho Ray Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Shame what happened to Snooky. Went over a couple of times with Mulphy/@Dr Who; relaxed, laid-back restaurants and beerbars similar to Pattaya 20 years earlier. Oh well.
paul williams Posted March 10 Posted March 10 looks like a ghost town now with all the abandoned buildings ..whats the info on the ground
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