Krapow Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Very common now, do you or anyone you know have it? Do you know it is reversible, with a change of diet and exercise/losing weight? Diet and exercise can help with so many things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45495384 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al McReady Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I have type 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I've heard figures that claim more than 100 million Americans have Type 2 or Pre-Diabetes, most don't even know it. My numbers were running about 110, so I try and get a lot of walking in, diet etc. The goal here is to not have to take Metformin if I can avoid it. We'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzalad Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I was feeling sleepy, no emery to do anything at all and i was finding work hard. The doc said we will check for diabetes before anything else. Did a few more tests but it turns out i was working far too hard and not intaking the right foods and me hitting 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Must be tough for guys with severe diabetes. Having to really watch what you eat, monitor bloods etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I know heaps of guys with type 2 in Bangkok. The effects of it are terrible. One had his leg amputated and died a few years later. Another had his big toe amputated 3 years ago and the "hole" has still not closed up and healed properly. Another has had all sorts of health problems, most of which are attributed to being a side effect of diabetes. Diabetes is an evil disease but the good thing is that type 2 can easily be avoided. It's a lifestyle disease so watch what you eat, exercise and you should be ok. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stickman said: I know heaps of guys with type 2 in Bangkok. The effects of it are terrible. One had his leg amputated and died a few years later. Another had his big toe amputated 3 years ago and the "hole" has still not closed up and healed properly. Another has had all sorts of health problems, most of which are attributed to being a side effect of diabetes. Diabetes is an evil disease but the good thing is that type 2 can easily be avoided. It's a lifestyle disease so watch what you eat, exercise and you should be ok. Yep, that's what the thread's about. It is a horrible thing to have, but it can be prevented or reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) I’ve had Type 2 for 19 plus years and used to be on Metformin, it played havoc with my guts but I stuck with it until 2 years ago, when I told Doc I wanted off of it. He pushed me to keep using it, but I stuck with my decision, so he (reluctantly) put me on two different drugs. Gliclazide 3x80mg and Sitagliptin 1x100mg. Stopped the gut problems, I had a lot more energy and my blood test dropped a bit. I’ve considered the Low Carb diet and followed the programs on TV, maybe I try it soon. Got my yearly review next Wednesday at the Docs, I’ll wait and see what my 3 month bloods are, then talk to the diabetic nurse. The NHS don’t seem to be pushing Low Carb diets, not sure why. A couple of recent TV programs where doctors seem to be in favour of it now. No problems with my feet, some mild Retinopathy in one eye, but, according to the Eye Consultant, not bad enough to require laser surgery yet and they monitor my eyes every 6 months with the drops and camera scans. I wear glasses for reading, but the lense prescription is a very low one and that hasn’t changed for 10+ years. I would recommend everyone to get the test for Diabetes done, as the sooner you know you have it, the sooner you treat it and that will help you stop having serious problems in later life. 👍 Edited September 13, 2018 by KhunDon 2 out of 10 for my spelling! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, KhunDon said: I’ve had Type 2 for 19 plus years and used to be on Metformin, it played havoc with my guts but I stuck with it until 2 years ago, when I told Doc I wanted off of it. He pushed me to keep using it, but I stuck with my decision, so he (reluctantly) put me on two different drugs. Gliclazide 3x80mg and Sitagliptin 1x100mg. Stopped the gut problems, I had a lot more energy and my blood test dropped a bit. I’ve considered the Low Carb diet and followed the programs on TV, maybe I try it soon. Got my yearly review next Wednesday at the Docs, I’ll wait and see what my 3 month bloods are, then talk to the diabetic nurse. The NHS don’t seem to be pushing Low Carb diets, not sure why. A couple of recent TV programs where doctors seem to be in favour of it now. No problems with my feet, some mild Retinopathy in one eye, but, according to the Eye Consultant, not bad enough to require laser surgery yet and they monitor my eyes every 6 months with the drops and camera scans. I wear glasses for reading, but the lense prescription is a very low one and that hasn’t changed for 10+ years. I would recommend everyone to get the test for Diabetes done, as the sooner you know you have it, the sooner you treat it and that will help you stop having serious problems in later life. 👍 Good advice, and good luck with the review. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 Just bumping this, as seen it on Sky News just now. He's lost over 7 Stone and reversed his diabetes. Great motivation for anyone thinking of such in this new year. @KhunDon how did your review go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Review went ok, but some blood results could do with improvement. Exercise is what I’m lacking, due to severe spinal problems and nerve damage in my left leg. They say “laughter is the best medicine”, well morphine is the top of my list. 🤣 I was hoping that a specialist spinal surgeon I saw before Christmas would agree to operate on me, but sadly he declined, due to my heart problems and my internal bleeding (angiodysplasia) which can’t be cured and the fact that I would be face down on the table for 6+ hours didn’t help. I think he didn’t want to add me to his score of patients that died on the table. They tend to err on the side of caution when choosing who to operate on, but I did say to him I was willing to give it a go and his answer was “you may be willing, but I’m not”. 🤣 So I have to stick to regular blood transfusion of 4 units a month, for that particular blood loss problem. My other diabetic tests for feet and other vascular problems went ok. My eyes are pretty good, with just a bit of Retinopathy in both eyes, but these are out of my field of vision and haven’t gotten worse for 2 years now, so the eye consultant felt that laser treatment is not yet required. All in all, not too bad and thanks for asking Krapow. 👍 Edited January 6, 2019 by KhunDon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, KhunDon said: Review went ok, but some blood results could do with improvement. Exercise is what I’m lacking, due to severe spinal problems and nerve damage in my left leg. They say “laughter is the best medicine”, well morphine is the top of my list. 🤣 I was hoping that a specialist spinal surgeon I saw before Christmas would agree to operate on me, but sadly he declined, due to my heart problems and my internal bleeding (angiodysplasia) which can’t be cured and the fact that I would be face down on the table for 6+ hours didn’t help. I think he didn’t want to add me to his score of patients that died on the table. They tend to err on the side of caution when choosing who to operate on, but I did say to him I was willing to give it a go and his answer was “you may be willing, but I’m not”. 🤣 So I have to stick to regular blood transfusion of 4 units a month, for that particular blood loss problem. My other diabetic tests for feet and other vascular problems went ok. My eyes are pretty good, with just a bit of Retinopathy in both eyes, but these are out of my field of vision and haven’t gotten worse for 2 years now, so the eye consultant felt that laser treatment is not yet required. All in all, not too bad and thanks for asking Krapow. 👍 You can get tailor made exercise regimes to suit, mate. If you so want of course. So if you're in Thailand, you still get the 4 units a month blood transfusion? How much is 4 units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Krapow said: You can get tailor made exercise regimes to suit, mate. If you so want of course. So if you're in Thailand, you still get the 4 units a month blood transfusion? How much is 4 units? I pay for a physiotherapist to come to our house to give me a workout twice a week, which I pay for. I could go via NHS, but it takes forever and I’d have to go to hospital each time, so I give that a body swerve to save the hassle. Problem is, back and leg pain severely restricts most movement and brings on my unstable angina, that causes more problems. I’m in UK, so get transfusions in our County hospital which is only 12 miles away. Because I’m on a regular transfusions regime, I only have to ring the hospital if I’m feeling that symptoms are affecting me ( dizziness, shortness of breath) and I can go into a day ward in the hospital where they do a quick Hb test to asses how much blood I need and I then get transfused. Not sure how much is in a unit, about half a pint I think and I usually have 2 in the am and 2 in the pm. Usually I get a transfusion of Iron at the same time, but not always, to help with Anemia caused by blood loss. As to how often I need blood depends on how much I lose internally. Had blood in Thailand years ago (2 units) and it cost around B40K for the blood and bed! As it’s a pre existing condition, I can’t get insurance cover for any of my problems, but “cash is king” they say, so cash it is. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtyGraph Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 My sister had type 2 for decades. It eventually caused major kidney problems and she passed away unexpectedly on Christmas Day (69). Never knew her to take dieting seriously since she was in her thirties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 lots of people I know have type 2 , I'm 50 and overweight so I've been getting tested every year , been lucky so far not on any tablets , but really going to try and sort the weight out this year ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 When I was diagnosed in 2000, I was put on Metformin, a horrible drug if your guts don’t like it. Shits like you won’t believe! Stuck it for 10 years before getting a different drug. 💩💩💩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fon_tok Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 9/12/2018 at 9:26 AM, Kathmandu said: I've heard figures that claim more than 100 million Americans have Type 2 or Pre-Diabetes, most don't even know it. My numbers were running about 110, so I try and get a lot of walking in, diet etc. The goal here is to not have to take Metformin if I can avoid it. We'll see how it goes. Most doctors now also use the A1C blood test to diagnose Type 2 diabetes: The A1C Test & Diabetes https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/tests-diagnosis/a1c-test 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, fon_tok said: Most doctors now also use the A1C blood test to diagnose Type 2 diabetes: The A1C Test & Diabetes https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/tests-diagnosis/a1c-test Done lots of A1C's, and the numbers are always lower than the standard fasting tests. Edited January 6, 2019 by Kathmandu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fon_tok Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Kathmandu said: Done lots of A1C's, and the numbers are always lower than the standard fasting tests. That's a good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 3 hours ago, fon_tok said: That's a good thing. I think so too. Isn't the A1C your avg. over 90 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Arthur Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 9/13/2018 at 3:08 AM, Stickman said: I know heaps of guys with type 2 in Bangkok. The effects of it are terrible. One had his leg amputated and died a few years later. Another had his big toe amputated 3 years ago and the "hole" has still not closed up and healed properly. Another has had all sorts of health problems, most of which are attributed to being a side effect of diabetes. Diabetes is an evil disease but the good thing is that type 2 can easily be avoided. It's a lifestyle disease so watch what you eat, exercise and you should be ok. Thanks for cheering us up and looking on the bright side of things. I recently found out I've got it albeit at border line level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 hours ago, J.Arthur said: Thanks for cheering us up and looking on the bright side of things. I recently found out I've got it albeit at border line level. So now the question to ask yourself is whether you're just going to accept it, or whether you're going to make lifestyle changes to overcome it, and effectively reverse it. How badly do you want to avoid the potential problems that can follow? A good diet and exercise is all that is required....and you're only borderline at this point - so there is no reason you can't turn it around! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stickman said: So now the question to ask yourself is whether you're just going to accept it, or whether you're going to make lifestyle changes to overcome it, and effectively reverse it. How badly do you want to avoid the potential problems that can follow? A good diet and exercise is all that is required....and you're only borderline at this point - so there is no reason you can't turn it around! Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Arthur Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Stickman said: So now the question to ask yourself is whether you're just going to accept it, or whether you're going to make lifestyle changes to overcome it, and effectively reverse it. How badly do you want to avoid the potential problems that can follow? A good diet and exercise is all that is required....and you're only borderline at this point - so there is no reason you can't turn it around! Cheers, I've changed my diet a bit, quit smoking and cut down on the beer, have not used sugar for over 20 years but use sugar pills and that fake sugar instead. At one time and on one occasion I had a blood sugar reading of 11 but that was not a regular score. Now I'm usually 5, 6 or 7 which is not too bad. My doctor and the nurse at the surgery seem OK with it when they do their quarterly assessment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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