Jump to content

Go Go Bars in The Avenue!!!


Evil Penevil

Recommended Posts

One more tidbit of information from the P-A board. It's from the member who uses the handle Bachelor's agogo, which he says is part of the Baku group.

"The owner of the Cinema is one of the main shareholders in the whole Avenue group, which is not just limited to Pattaya, they have malls all over Thailand. It was mainly his idea to make an entertainment complex so I guess he doesn't see it as an issue."

 The issue that was under discussion was parking at The Avenue.

And one more question:  When Thaivisa and others say, "Indian"  in reference to the Baku group,  do they mean Thai subjects of Indian heritage or citizens of  the Republic of India?   I know the landlord of the former FLB was a Thai of Indian background.  He was one of the leaders of the Sikh community in Pattaya.  Everyone, Thai and farang, referred to him as "Indian" even though he was a Thai subject born in Thailand.

Evil

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That would be awesome, but only if it would be quality gogo bars like in Nana Plaza and Walking Street and not like the poor quality gogo bars we see in LK-metro. I do think there would be a customer base for it if the bars were to be populated with top-notch gogo girls like in Pin Up and Palace or Billboard in Nana Plaza, those places are filled up ever night and you can barely find an empty spot to sit

The Avenue was a failure from the beginning, and the owner's never got their investment returned, surely converting it to gogo bars would change all of that, and why wouldn't they get the licences for it, wrong zone? but not far from LK and a long way from the beach, it seems like the perfect zone for it. Why keep a ghost-mall instead of converting it into something that makes money for the city?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Something's been bugging me all night... Again, I might be (and quite probably am) wrong, but...

A couple of trips ago I used to eat a lot at a little restaurant on soi 15 called Spagetti Bistro. It's now a derelict site.

Half way through the trip it was bought up by the Baku group. I was introduced to the new "owner" and his thai wife/pa/secretary/gik/whatever. He was known by a mate who was staying at Baku guesthouse.  I have a feeling this blokes name was Sean, and he sure wasnt, or even looked like, from India. I think he was from "oop norf" in the UK.

The restaurant moved to the Roof at the Avenue when the land owner discovered some bars and restaurants on his land, which he knew nothing about...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In response to my question in the post above,  I got the following answer from a member there who posts on behalf of the Baku Lounge:

"Baku is a persons name. He was one of the original investors in the first guest house project and the name Baku Guesthouse was coined. It has nothing to do with Azerbaijan or any mythology."

I posted a follow-up question asking about Baku's nationality, but haven't gotten an answer yet.

Here a screen shot from the public portion of the Baku Group's closed Facebook group:

Baku.JPG.1d7cd0bd78020b67901bb2d691da8e5

That's an eclectic group of bars and other businesses, but I don't really see any Indian angle unless Baku turns out to be Indian, or at least of Indian ancestry. Any group that undertakes to transform a dead shopping mall into an adult entertainment plaza has to have deep pockets and heavy duty connections to Thai authorities.  I can't see the Baku Group in and of itself having either.

Of course, farang could be "fronting" for investors from India or any other country.  That's the way the Thai family that owned Nana Plaza did it.  Anyone remember the American  called Boss Hogg?

According to a post from a Baku Group rep on Addicts,  the first stage  of the Avenue Plaza is supposed to open on March 31, 2020.

Like I said, I will believe it when I see it.

Evil

  • Like 1
  • Great Info 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Lemondropkid said:

Something of a jump in scale from running 1 GoGo bar to running 39?

I don't think Baku group intend running their own gogo bars (if they do, it would be incidental) but rather run a property business where they rent out units to be used as gogos. 

  • Like 1
  • Thumbs Up 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Given the shrinking number of customers and girls, about 39 go go bars need to close, rather than 39 new ones opening.  Unless there is a mass migration from WS to The Avenue- and that is highly unlikely- I can't see the Avenue Entertainment Plaza succeeding.  There just aren't enough customer butts to fill the seats or girls to fill the stages.

Evil

Agree entirely somethings way out of kilter with this yarn. Reminds of about a year ago remember that wind up over some Scottish joint supposedly opening opposite Retox in Soi Lenkee with massive breakfasts for ludicrous prices. This sounds more like the "Baku" group raising awareness of existing outlets.

How the hell are you going to get a return when "39" Go Go bars are in competition in one relatively small location

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 12/18/2019 at 7:38 AM, Evil Penevil said:

In response to my question in the post above,  I got the following answer from a member there who posts on behalf of the Baku Lounge:

"Baku is a persons name. He was one of the original investors in the first guest house project and the name Baku Guesthouse was coined. It has nothing to do with Azerbaijan or any mythology."

I posted a follow-up question asking about Baku's nationality, but haven't gotten an answer yet.

Here a screen shot from the public portion of the Baku Group's closed Facebook group:

Baku.JPG.1d7cd0bd78020b67901bb2d691da8e5

That's an eclectic group of bars and other businesses, but I don't really see any Indian angle unless Baku turns out to be Indian, or at least of Indian ancestry. Any group that undertakes to transform a dead shopping mall into an adult entertainment plaza has to have deep pockets and heavy duty connections to Thai authorities.  I can't see the Baku Group in and of itself having either.

Of course, farang could be "fronting" for investors from India or any other country.  That's the way the Thai family that owned Nana Plaza did it.  Anyone remember the American  called Boss Hogg?

According to a post from a Baku Group rep on Addicts,  the first stage  of the Avenue Plaza is supposed to open on March 31, 2020.

Like I said, I will believe it when I see it.

Evil

Remember Boss Hogg from 2003. Often to be found in the old Big Dogs and later he had Bully I believe. Bit of a character ....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

Works in Nana Plaza.  Ok, maybe not 39 but still a lot.  

 

only been a few times in the past years but nana is a ghost town full of ladyboy bars and now it has a roof over it it smells of piss.  seriously reeks.   

i can only imagione the fuin for the other shop keepers, washing the piss out of their doorways and picking up the bottles.   it wont happen

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, tommy dee said:

only been a few times in the past years but nana is a ghost town full of ladyboy bars and now it has a roof over it it smells of piss.  seriously reeks.   

i can only imagione the fuin for the other shop keepers, washing the piss out of their doorways and picking up the bottles.   it wont happen

Um, not a ghost town, actually it's always very busy. Did you go there before 6 pm or on a national Holliday?

 

Edited by DeadAndAlive
Link to comment
Share on other sites

More details now becoming available via postings on Pattaya Ladyboy forum....the poster "Batchelor A Go Go" on Pattaya Addicts is the guy Scott who opened Sensations ladyboy bar in Action Street six or seven years ago and allowed Sky TV to document his progress in that project. He teamed up with an Indian guy who posts as Sean Archer on the forums and  SA recently took over the running of Batchelor in LK, using the name Smitty. I think Scott from Sensations is the manager there now. Others may be involved too, but these guys are the foundation players.

Scott and Smitty acquired an almost fully kitted out venue in The Avenue known as the Roof as its then Russian owner failed to follow through to opening due to unpublished circumstances and so they landed a big salubrious venue for minimal investment, and the first Avenue project was hatched. With so much empty space around, it seems like questions were asked and answered and some very ambitious plans then started to germinate.

If you want to get more details of whats planned, log in to Pattaya Ladyboy forum....you are all probably members there already!

 

Latest : 17 of the 39 first phase Go Go bars already signed up or signing up...been "allocated" was the phrase used!  

Specialist Bangkok builders on the way down  and things to happen from April.

 

Edited by Knuckles
  • Surprised 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Knuckles said:

More details now becoming available via postings on Pattaya Ladyboy forum....the poster "Batchelor A Go Go" on Pattaya Addicts is the guy Scott who opened Sensations ladyboy bar in Action Street six or seven years ago and allowed Sky TV to document his progress in that project. He teamed up with an Indian guy who posts as Sean Archer on the forums and  SA recently took over the running of Batchelor in LK, using the name Smitty. I think Scott from Sensations is the manager there now. Others may be involved too, but these guys are the foundation players.

Scott and Smitty acquired an almost fully kitted out venue in The Avenue known as the Roof as its then Russian owner failed to follow through to opening due to unpublished circumstances and so they landed a big salubrious venue for minimal investment, and the first Avenue project was hatched. With so much empty space around, it seems like questions were asked and answered and some very ambitious plans then started to germinate.

If you want to get more details of whats planned, log in to Pattaya Ladyboy forum....you are all probably members there already!

 

Latest : 17 of the 39 first phase Go Go bars already signed up or signing up...been "allocated" was the phrase used!  

Specialist Bangkok builders on the way down  and things to happen from April.

 

Good stuff, keep on updating..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Knuckles said:

Latest : 17 of the 39 first phase Go Go bars already signed up or signing up...been "allocated" was the phrase used!

Verbal agreements only was stated by Sean yesterday(?).  Not on paper yet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...