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Streatham: Man shot dead by police after stabbings in London

A man has been shot dead by officers in a "terrorist-related" incident in south London, the Met Police have said.

It is believed two people have been injured in stabbings on Streatham High Road.

Gun shots were heard just after 14:00 GMT on Sunday. Police later said the scene had been "fully contained".

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A terrorist will not change his agenda no matter how long he is locked up for. As soon as he is out he will do what he believes his goal is. Don't know the answer. Deportation or life are the only options that could be realistically achieved. Given no death penalty exists.

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40 minutes ago, john1000 said:

A terrorist will not change his agenda no matter how long he is locked up for. As soon as he is out he will do what he believes his goal is. Don't know the answer. Deportation or life are the only options that could be realistically achieved. Given no death penalty exists.

Not true!

Though more likely with the Islamist terrorists, yes.

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5 hours ago, john1000 said:

A terrorist will not change his agenda no matter how long he is locked up for. As soon as he is out he will do what he believes his goal is. Don't know the answer. Deportation or life are the only options that could be realistically achieved. Given no death penalty exists.

They were brainwashed, can we "unbrainwash" them ? 

Deportation not possible when he is a national.

Life ? A huge cost for society.

Best policy is what is done actually. Shoot them (fatally) on the spot. There seems to be an unwritten rule now on this in UK, France, Netherlands, Germany if we look at recent cases.  

 

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21 minutes ago, Thai Spice said:

They were brainwashed, can we "unbrainwash" them ? 

Deportation not possible when he is a national.

Life ? A huge cost for society.

Best policy is what is done actually. Shoot them (fatally) on the spot. There seems to be an unwritten rule now on this in UK, France, Netherlands, Germany if we look at recent cases.  

 

In both cases lately these vermin should never have been let out on the street again to mame or kill innocent people.

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33 minutes ago, roomark said:

In both cases lately these vermin should never have been let out on the street again to mame or kill innocent people.

Judgement and punishment are based upon the law of the moment. A judge rules by law, not by what he (or society) thinks what "should be better".

From the BBC news

"At the time of Amman's release there were concerns about the danger he might pose to the public but there were no legal mechanisms to keep him in prison, BBC political correspondent Chris Mason said. "

Says it all. And changing the law is not so easy. But probably should be done.

Not defending anybody here. 

 

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11 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

Best policy is what is done actually. Shoot them (fatally) on the spot. There seems to be an unwritten rule now on this in UK, France, Netherlands, Germany if we look at recent cases.  

 

Because of the possibility of them self detonating.

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13 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

 

Best policy is what is done actually. Shoot them (fatally) on the spot. There seems to be an unwritten rule now on this in UK, France, Netherlands, Germany if we look at recent cases.  

 


Rather an over simplification I would suggest.

 

The Officer must justify his actions.  Essentially he/she is allowed to use the minimum necessary force the circumstances require. Self defence (which includes defence of another) or prevention of a crime being committed are normally the reasons for the use of the said force.  Easy and straight forward.

My concern is that a young or inexperienced officer may become sloppy in writing up the report and not give sufficient detail to either justify his/her claim of self defence/prevention of crime and detail why the force used was the minimum that was necessary in the circumstances as he/she perceived them.

Add onto  fact that most police reports are completed electronically and timed and dated with no or little opportunity to correct anything said in the report.

A report completed by an officer in the heat of a tense and stressful situation is then reviewed and scrutinised by solicitors, barristers,  coroners and the judiciary in a more conducive environment and if the the report has flaws they will exploit them..

If the officer gets the report wrong and is unlucky he/she is on trial for manslaughter or even murder.  
 

 

 

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Looks like Boris is starting to get the message.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/03/boris-admits-very-few-islamists-rehabilitated-favours-prison/

 

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has admitted that “really very few” Islamists can be successfully rehabilitated, and says it’s time to emphasise “the custodial option” to protect the public.

The Tory leader was speaking after Sudesh Amman stabbed multiple people in Streatham, London, just days after he received automatic early release from a short prison sentence for terror offences.

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42 minutes ago, Thai Spice said:

Sure Australia has some semi deserted island out there to rent out ?

 

Being used for the gulags to house the refugees from China.

 

The French still control Île du Diable (Devil's' Island) don't they. Re-open it and charge the poms a fortune.

 

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1 hour ago, fygjam said:

 

 

The French still control Île du Diable (Devil's' Island) don't they. Re-open it and charge the poms a fortune.

 

Yep, I thought about that one.  Not easy to make a rental deal no with all this Brexit thing....😄😄😄

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Another case of a guy released after a previous conviction and preparing a new attack.

Luckily stopped before he acted.

But I think newspapers shouldn't publicise this kind of info, as it will push future "candidates" to be more discreet and enhance their chances of going undetected.

Mentionning the use of under cover officers is really stupid  and may even put the lives of similar officers now in operation at risk ! 

 Catch the bad guy, throw him in jail, but dont make any noice about it IMO.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/10/man-convicted-of-plotting-terror-attacks-at-london-tourist-sites

Man plotted Madame Tussauds attack after 2018 terror acquittal

Mohiussunnath Chowdhury, 28, convicted of planning to strike at London tourist sites

 

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