Angeles City 1st time trip report....

[RR007]

It was originally my intention to do an extensive trip report but I acknowledge many here have already been so will instead precis with a few photos included later.....

Despite an extensive trip count to Thailand that would have the Inland Revenue eyes watering I have never been to Angeles City or indeed even the Philippines...an absolute virgin trip. My friend had been twice in the late 1990s with originally Brian Kelly and Nick Hurn with 25 odd others on 2 group tours with that "Thai Adventures" group (later became Asean Explorer) one trip to be known as the "Pinatubo Ashes"  am sure some here will remember them pre the internet taking off. Wonder what happened to them....

He had wanted me to come back then but I had met a Thai girl and was lubbed up lol in 1998 and aborted and subsequently married her instead....... Always regretted not going and the 2 times he went he had really enjoyed it as a young 32 year old with some great memories and photos.....but roll forward to November 2019 and I said how about Angeles lol. He looked at me as if to say are you serious to which I said lets get it booked time for some action.....Game on

Will tell the story warts and all for hopefully benefit of others who havent been previously....it was 22 years since my mate went. Times had changed clearly

I had asked elsewhere about Hotels and Flights and Larry had responded elsewhere over the Hotels which will come to later....  The issue though on flights is an extensive roundabout route to get to Clark International close to AC or fly into Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila with the associated traffic...

Cebu Pacific had great departure times from Bangkok but the return timings were not good so we booked one way on Cebu out for £81 and will mention Air Asia on return sector later back into Don Maung (right minger of an aircraft lol)

Checked in at Survanabhumbi (didnt bother with online check in) and having already sussed supposedly that the aircraft was an A320 the seat allocation is clearly indicating a wide body instead...... Bit bizarre but in fact it was an A330 with an all economy configuration at nine abreast with the motor being about 40% full at best and In the all economy set up most have been 400 odd seats plus....Flight attendants had Denim skirts on lol most delightful...... We had paid for 20kg of checked bags and they included 7kg of cabin bags....we were nowhere near the limit but had decided not to purchase in advance onboard any food. It was absolutely dirt cheap anyway if you fancied a snack. Literally £2 or so so unless you're desperate for a meal booked in advance I'd not bother.....just grab something onboard

Pushed back early with a 2 hour 45 flight time. As it was  daytime great to see the islands as we're starting to get nearer to Manila.....both toilets were inoperative on centre section of aircraft and one out as well at the front.....good job motor was not full. I'm 6 foot 2 and leg room was fine (even if had been a full flight) so no sweat. No onboard entertainment but no surpise obviously

Landing was heavy to say the least and we docked right at the far end of T3 and filtered off pretty quickly....as we were sat right beside the exit door we were off promptly thinking that immigration likely to be busy so we'll at least keep in front of all the people on this flight but there was no need..... As we walked along a Qatar widebody drew up on an airbridge.......approached immigration and theres literally no sod there....... Am not joking.......Mate went to front of one desk and myself to another and literally 60 seconds later we're on the carousel....I (and he) had been anticipating big queues but couldn't have been further from the truth in reality

On each of the carousels they have CCTV of the baggage handlers lol. Lets just say clearly they dont give a shit as the tossers were lobbing the bags in specatacular fashion on to the rollers.....thank christ ours came off intact am sure others may not have...

Came into T3 area and now its heaving.....girls am guessing waiting for their teeraks everywhere and I'm smiling at all and sundry in usual fashion and not only are they smiling back keenly but saying hello. I'm thinking shit we're only at the exchange booths and we're underway.....

Unlike the arrivals exchange Cartel at Suvarnabhumbi the exchange rates at the airport at Manila are only marginally below what they were at Angeles as it turned out...... At T3 they were around 64.30 for Sterling and Interbank on the day we landed was 65.43 so very fair rate no question so we lobbed over a ton each just needing enough for first night and got 6430 Peso each back......the Hotel had pre booked a taxi for us at 3000 Peso to be charged to the hotel bill and they had given very clear instructions as to his location with our names on a board outside the entrance to the Burger King and clearly all was going swimmingly well.....

The tosser aint there............................lol

Shit....

To be continued......

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by RR007

[grayray]

20 minutes ago, RR007 said:

It was originally my intention to do an extensive trip report but I acknowledge many here have already been so will instead precis with a few photos included later.....

Despite an extensive trip count to Thailand that would have the Inland Revenue eyes watering I have never been to Angeles City or indeed even the Philippines...an absolute virgin trip. My friend had been twice in the late 1990s with originally Brian Kelly and Nick Hurn with 25 odd others on 2 group tours with that "Thai Adventures" group (later to became Asean Explorer) am sure some here will remember them pre the internet taking off. Wonder what happened to them....

He had wanted me to come back then but I had met a Thai girl and was lubbed up lol in 1998 and aborted and subsequently married her instead....... Always regretted not going and the 2 times he went he had really enjoyed it as a young 32 year old with some great memories and photos.....but roll forward to November 2019 and I said how about Angeles lol. He looked at me as if to say are you serious to which I said lets get it booked time for some action.....Game on

Will tell the story warts and all for hopefully benefit of others who havent been previously....it was 22 years since my mate went. Times had changed clearly

I had asked elsewhere about Hotels and Flights and Larry had responded elsewhere over the Hotels which will come to later....  The issue though on flights is an extensive roundabout route to get to Clark International close to AC or fly into Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila with the associated traffic...

Cebu Pacific had great departure times from Bangkok but the return timings were not good so we booked one way on Cebu out for £81 and will mention Air Asia on return sector later back into Don Maung (right minger of an aircraft lol)

Checked in at Survanabhumbi (didnt bother with online check in) and having already sussed supposedly that the aircraft was an A320 the seat allocation is clearly indicating a wide body instead...... Bit bizarre but in fact it was an A330 with an all economy configuration at nine abreast with the motor being about 40% full at best and In the all economy set up most have been 400 odd seats plus....Flight attendants had Denim skirts on lol most delightful...... We had paid for 20kg of checked bags and they included 7kg of cabin bags....we were nowhere near the limit but had decided not to purchase in advance onboard any food. It was absolutely dirt cheap anyway if you fancied a snack. Literally £2 or so so unless you're desperate for a meal booked in advance I'd not bother.....just grab something onboard

Pushed back early with a 2 hour 45 flight time. As it was  daytime great to see the islands as we're starting to get nearer to Manila.....both toilets were inoperative on centre section of aircraft and one out as well at the front.....good job motor was not full. I'm 6 foot 2 and leg room was fine (even if had been a full flight) so no sweat. No onboard entertainment but no surpise obviously

Landing was heavy to say the least and we docked right at the far end of T3 and filtered off pretty quickly....as we were sat right beside the exit door we were off promptly thinking that immigration likely to be busy so we'll at least keep in front of all the people on this flight but there was no need..... As we walked along a Qatar widebody drew up on an airbridge.......approached immigration and theres literally no sod there....... Am not joking.......Mate went to front of one desk and myself to another and literally 60 seconds later we're on the carousel....I (and he) had been anticipating big queues but couldn't have been further from the truth in reality

On each of the carousels they have CCTV of the baggage handlers lol. Lets just say clearly they dont give a shit as the tossers were lobbing the bags in specatacular fashion on to the rollers.....thank christ ours came off intact am sure others may not have...

Came into T3 area and now its heaving.....girls am guessing waiting for their teeraks everywhere and I'm smiling at all and sundry in usual fashion and not only are they smiling back keenly but saying hello. I'm thinking shit we're only at the exchange booths and we're underway.....

Unlike the arrivals exchange Cartel at Suvarnabhumbi the exchange rates at the airport at Manila are only marginally below what they were at Angeles as it turned out...... At T3 they were around 64.30 for Sterling and Interbank on the day we landed was 65.43 so very fair rate no question so we lobbed over a ton each just needing enough for first night and got 6430 Peso each back......the Hotel had pre booked a taxi for us at 3000 Peso to be charged to the hotel bill and they had given very clear instructions as to his location with our names on a board outside the entrance to the Burger King and clearly all was going swimmingly well.....

The tosser aint there............................lol

Shit....

 

I haven't been there since 1994 but watching youtube it looks like it's changed.

look forward to the future TRs

regards

grayray

[Nickrock]

Like wise not been there since 08 and was sick as a dog ( dodgy food on my way to swampy) 

You know your sick when it's like 30c and you wished you had brought some warm clothing

[RR007]

.........For christ sake lol wheres the Taxi Driver.....On the the flight over I had jokingly said to my wingman if the pick up aint there we're slightly in the shit here. First visit with no sim cards the only solution would have been go and buy a sim at airport buy some airtime and ring the Hotel...it was our intention to just use hotel wifi in general and ditch phones for nights out

Alternatively I'd have to use roaming charges on UK phone or use my True Sim which was on roaming automatically......bollacks

Waited about 20 minutes thinking maybe traffic for the driver and spot an Airport Police booth and a female officer returning. Thinking might as well ask her christ she couldnt have been more helpful so I get the booking print off out she gets out her mobile and calls the hotel. Passes phone to me but I cant understand a word the reception is babbling partly because area was noisy.

Hand the phone back to Plod who speaks in tagalog. Reception now give mobile number to her of taxi driver who she now calls from the landline and all sorted.....he's stuck in traffic lol

Anyway eventually he turns up and I thank the officer profusely now thinking do I give her a bung or will it be taken the wrong way lol....decide on caution and rethank her to which she responds we're here to serve you have a nice day......I beginning to like this place

Taxi driver had been 4 hours from Angeles coming. Now for illustration distance from Angeles to Manila and Pattaya to Survanabhumbi are almost same distance at 100km give or take. The difference .....traffic

Off we go and we've all seen shanty towns in Bangkok and elsewhere but this place is something else entirely...... Its like Beirut just desperation poverty begging and the simply biggest cacophony of air horns on lorries, car horns and motorbike hooters all competing for the same stretch of road all desperately avoiding collision. Have never seen anything like it simply unreal

Kids playing football at the side of "roads" as lorries metres away thunder by.....people running across traffic in all directions narrowly avoiding vehicles

Eventually after about 1 hour 45 minutes driver says (great English) here we go about to get on the highway and the mad sod accelerates to at least 100mph with my mate telling the bugger to slow down which he did......for 5 minutes. Theres no seat belts in minivan at all lol and am hunkered down across rear seats thinking its only a matter of time before we take an unscheduled air trip.

Arrive outskirts of Angeles after about 2 hours 45 minutes all up and I resurface from the seats thinking how the hell did I get persuaded to come to this madhouse......Now Larry had answered elsewhere our query about Pacific Breeze hotel because someone else had recommended to us and Larry said he had stayed at PB about 50 times but had stopped because of dirty linen poor internet etc and a few other issues and instead was using Scorebirds Hotel literally about 50 metres away instead

We stuck with Pacific Breeze however....Now firstly in general Hotels are more expensive in Angeles than Pattaya not excessively so but in general they are. I'll convert Peso into Baht from here on to give a direct comparision....PB have 6 types of rooms (apparently) and we had the Executive rooms which was only one above the standard rooms....It was fine for me and came to 1660 Baht (2700 Peso)

We pull up outside hotel and theres two geezers in some sort of security uniform with what looked like pump action shotguns on a sling around their shoulders lol....(jump in anyone if you know what the shooters actually are as we saw them outside plenty of hotels)

I'm thinking WTF have I come to here.....a 123 Baht tip to driver (200 Peso) which he was clearly more than happy with

Get checked in reception staff lovely to say the least......Now the rooms are "ok" (and fine for me) but it is a 1660 Baht room at the end of the day. You decide.

Get showered and here we go...... Angeles "Walking St" is literally 70 metres away and its time for action and its starts off in spectacular fashion at "Envy".......

To be continued.....

 

 

Edited February 20, 2020 by RR007

[grayray]

1 hour ago, RR007 said:

.........For christ sake lol wheres the Taxi Driver.....On the the flight over I had jokingly said to my wingman if the pick up aint there we're slightly in the shit here. First visit with no sim cards the only solution would have been go and buy a sim at airport buy some airtime and ring the Hotel...it was our intention to just use hotel wifi in general and ditch phones for nights out

Alternatively I'd have to use roaming charges on UK phone or use my True Sim which was on roaming automatically......bollacks

Waited about 20 minutes thinking maybe traffic for the driver and spot an Airport Police booth and a female officer returning. Thinking might as well ask her christ she couldnt have been more helpful so I get the booking print off out she gets out her mobile and calls the hotel. Passes phone to me but I cant understand a word the reception is babbling partly because area was noisy.

Hand the phone back to Plod who speaks in tagalog. Reception now give mobile number to her of taxi driver who she now calls from the landline and all sorted.....he's stuck in traffic lol

Anyway eventually he turns up and I thank the officer profusely now thinking do I give her a bung or will it be taken the wrong way lol....decide on caution and rethank her to which she responds we're here to serve you have a nice day......I beginning to like this place

Taxi driver had been 4 hours from Angeles coming. Now for illustration distance from Angeles to Manila and Pattaya to Survanabhumbi are almost same distance at 100km give or take. The difference .....traffic

Off we go and we've all seen shanty towns in Bangkok and elsewhere but this place is something else entirely...... Its like Beirut just desperation poverty begging and the simply biggest cacophony of air horns on lorries, car horns and motorbike hooters all competing for the same stretch of road all desperately avoiding collision. Have never seen anything like it simply unreal

Kids playing football at the side of "roads" as lorries metres away thunder by.....people running across traffic in all directions narrowly avoiding vehicles

Eventually after about 1 hour 45 minutes driver says (great English) here we go about to get on the highway and the mad sod accelerates to at least 100mph with my mate telling the bugger to slow down which he did......for 5 minutes. Theres no seat belts in minivan at all lol and am hunkered down across rear seats thinking its only a matter of time before we take an unscheduled air trip.

Arrive outskirts of Angeles after about 2 hours 45 minutes all up and I resurface from the seats thinking how the hell did I get persuaded to come to this madhouse......Now Larry had answered elsewhere our query about Pacific Breeze hotel because someone else had recommended to us and Larry said he had stayed at PB about 50 times but had stopped because of dirty linen poor internet etc and a few other issues and instead was using Scorebirds Hotel literally about 50 metres away instead

We stuck with Pacific Breeze however....Now firstly in general Hotels are more expensive in Angeles than Pattaya not excessively so but in general they are. I'll convert Peso into Baht from here on to give a direct comparision....PB have 6 types of rooms (apparently) and we had the Executive rooms which was only one above the standard rooms....It was fine for me and came to 1660 Baht (2700 Peso)

We pull up outside hotel and theres two geezers in some sort of security uniform with what looked like pump action shotguns on a sling around their shoulders lol....(jump in anyone if you know what the shooters actually are as we saw them outside plenty of hotels)

I'm thinking WTF have I come to here.....a 123 Baht tip to driver (200 Peso) which he was clearly more than happy with

Get checked in reception staff lovely to say the least......Now the rooms are "ok" (and fine for me) but it is a 1660 Baht room at the end of the day. You decide.

Get showered and here we go...... Angeles "Walking St" is literally 70 metres away and its time for action and its starts off in spectacular fashion at "Envy".......

To be continued.....

 

 

mate the rooms are a lot better than some of the rooms I stayed in back in the 1980s,

but then I was paying between 16-18aud a night for a room,and 200-400Peso LT for a lady.

what ever has happen over the last 40years Angeles looks like it is still a shit dump.

regards

grayray

[boydeste]

I AM reading this with a big smile as during my first trip to the PI in 07 I had very similar thoughts. Been back many times and have stayed in the Pacific Breeze a few times. I was there with Larry a couple of months ago and enjoyed my stay at Scorebirds too! 

Not being able to fly direct into Clarke is a proper pain and I tend to pick my flight times into Manilla to minimise trafic. 

Can't wait to see what you thought of the bar setup with the girls.

 

Edited February 20, 2020 by boydeste

[Golfingboy]

4 hours ago, boydeste said:

Not being able to fly direct into Clarke is a proper pain and I tend to pick my flight times into Manilla to minimise trafic. 

Can't wait to see what you thought of the bar setup with the girls.

 

Was just looking at Google Maps, damn those first 10-15 miles is what can take 2+ hours, depending on where you leave from in Manila.

But they have a new Skyway that, apparently, might be open this July. That would cut the travel time down drastically 

[boydeste]

1 hour ago, Golfingboy said:

Was just looking at Google Maps, damn those first 10-15 miles is what can take 2+ hours, depending on where you leave from in Manila.

But they have a new Skyway that, apparently, might be open this July. That would cut the travel time down drastically 

Yes, getting out of Manilla is what kills you, the rest is a breeze. I usually try to fly in around 8pm and leave on a Sunday. Journey time usually around 2 hours or so then! 

[Horizondave]

Stayed in the PB for a week over Christmas, always stay there if I can, staff lovely and maids always helpful if needing extras like ironing boards etc. Pool area not much use for me but the adjacent restaurant also serve me up a great chicken curry which always hits the spot.

Rooms are fine and the location for getting to the bars is excellent.  Great laundry right opposite the entrance as well which will turn around your dirty clothes in 24 hours.

Looking forward to the bar report.

 

[RR007]

......so we hit the bars ( bear in mind we were complete newbies so prices etc etc were only our experience others will obviously differ)

Just outside of the top end of "Walking st" is a sports bar called "Envy" and if you sit at the front all the freelancers (or streetwalkers as they're called here) are literally in front of you. It was clear to them that this idiotic pair were worthy of talking to....... I'm sat there grinning like an idiot at all and sundry (probably as I did those 30 years ago in Soi 8 first trip) and they're coming from all directions. Some nice ones and some rottwiellers....

Ordered the SML and first experience of pricing just 50 Baht (82 Peso) I'm thinking gotta be more than that....... Nope drinks for the guys are very cheap compared to Pattaya and that applied everywhere...... There is a caveat which I'll come to.  Get a couple freelancers sat with us nice girls indeed (on the surface lol) and the obvious difference between Filipinos and their Thai cousins became clear.....these Girls English is very good and we're having normal conversations. Offloaded them no problem said maybe later (lol) but still others are steaming in....check the bill and something else becomes clear. Tips are obviously greatly appreciated but its utterly clear that change given isnt done so in a fashion to encourage tips.....I suppose on average throughout the trip and also each mornings breakfast at "Kokomos" that 10 Peso tips was the average. Appreciated and nobody going cheap charlie. Maybe average is more with other guys ??  No idea

Vacate Envy and my wingman had remembered one "Go Go" from the 1990s (deliberately in inverted commas people who have been before know whats coming lol) in "Roadhouse". He had remembered it as a great club.....in we go to find 2 other blokes playing pool and errr thats it. On stage are 5 of the fattest birds I've ever witnessed in Asia. They couldnt dance. They could hardly waddle and as for "movement" they've got their arms folded lol.....I'm thinking and laughing wheres the cameras clearly this is a wind up or something.....as an introduction to "Go Go's" its on a par with abysmal...... (no showing at all in Angeles)... Thinking right lets have a bit of fun start the usual antics of Pattaya.......fook all is happening. These 80kg gargantuan whoppers aint taking the bait. Klaxon goes off change of "dancers" lol.....right am anticipating all 5 of the mingers over. Nope nothing zilch nada instead they seem to be having a union meeting . Am bemused its all going pear shaped.

Thinking christ hope this gaff aint an entire reflection of Angeles (it wasn't) we decide to check bill. Just 64 Baht SML (105 Peso) so its clear drinks prices for us are going to be ridiculously cheap on average

Moving few bars further up in we go. Jesus Wept there are 6 girls up line dancing following a video on TV screens........ I'm falling about in laughter but in this place there are a lot of girls.....what is becoming clear though that Filipinos are much shyer at initial contact than their thai cousins....very very much shyer.....waitress is chatty so start getting more info on the girls......firstly you really need to give the international sign for "do you want a drink" if you want contact at which point whooooosh all line dancing forgotten and down they came....first lesson learnt.....2nd lesson learnt is the eye watering prices of Ladydrinks that would make even "Whats Up" seem reasonable......215 Baht a pop (350 Peso) I'm thinking are we being rammed here (nope) so whilst our drinks are very cheap at 73 Baht (120 Peso) the ladydrinks are 3 times ours pretty eyewatering to say the least.....If you're in a pattaya go go and our beer is 150 baht probably LD is 170 ish a small percentage increase but in Angeles its a 300% increase.....this does add up lol

Having had enough of line dancing we hit Voodoo and Shooterz back in actual walking st itself.....some cracking girls in Shootersz and having now established whats occuring get the best two birds down....very very very nice. Bang straight in with the LDs again for both (again 215 Baht 350 Peso) we're underway.

Start chatting and bear in mind the great English we ask what these girls earnt as regards salaries etc etc....on average the daily rate is between 200 to 300 Peso per day on a monthly basis so taking an average salaries are 4600 Baht (7500 Peso) monthly.....on top they get on average around 61 Baht (100 Peso) per drink....make no mistake these two are going nowhere except later to bed... hopefully with us. Now I knew from some basic research that all the money is paid up front to the bar and they get the girls to sign an "early release" chit allowing them to leave the bar......in all the 5 days trip the price for a takeaway from any Go Go didnt change.....if they were dressed in Black bikinis it was 2150 Baht LT for everything (3500 Peso) and for those in white bikinis 1845 Baht (3000 Peso).....for those dancing in dresses we needed to ask but it was always 3000 or 3500 Peso no matter what Go Go (I acknowledge only our experiences)....I'm taking mine called Emmaline lol in black kit stump up the dosh and she goes to get changed......now am thinking will she come back out in flip flops looking shight.....nope wrong again came back out with high heels in lovely black dress looking a million Dollars.....the GFE was underway make no mistake (same experience we had everywhere).....heading out we hit another Go Go called Lancelot (Ladydrinks in here we knew subsequently were the cheapest at 184 baht (300 Peso)......

Shes shovelling Gin and Tonics down her neck (on average 73 Baht 120 Peso) and wants to go back up dancing here.....50 Peso charge on me lol and up she goes

I'm loving this place......

To be continued

Edited February 21, 2020 by RR007

[Yesitisdakid]

Stop in to Centro located close to dollhouse same side there on walking Street. Ask for the manager Gabriel tell him you know Larry from secrets and baby dolls he's a really good friend. He almost married Apple from Secrets years ago good thing he didn't we still laugh about that to this day. If you love it there now you absolutely would have never wanted to leave 5 to 10 years ago it's a totally different place

 

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[RR007]

17 minutes ago, Yesitisdakid said:

Stop in to Centro located close to dollhouse same side there on walking Street. Ask for the manager Gabriel tell him you know Larry from secrets and baby dolls he's a really good friend. He almost married Apple from Secrets years ago good thing he didn't we still laugh about that to this day. If you love it there now you absolutely would have never wanted to leave 5 to 10 years ago it's a totally different place

Yes would have loved to experience it 10 years ago. Although same could be said to a newbie to Pattaya today....if they thinks its great now 30 years ago it was in a VERY different league of GFE No tattoes and no attitude. Havent mentioned tatts in Angeles but they were considerably less than on their Thai cousins that was clear. Neither of had a single girl with any

[Jambo]

4 hours ago, Yesitisdakid said:

Stop in to Centro located close to dollhouse same side there on walking Street. Ask for the manager Gabriel tell him you know Larry from secrets and baby dolls he's a really good friend. He almost married Apple from Secrets years ago good thing he didn't we still laugh about that to this day. If you love it there now you absolutely would have never wanted to leave 5 to 10 years ago it's a totally different place

You ( and RR007) have made me get all nostalgic particularly as we stayed mostly in the Pacific Breeze too.

Didn't we have some great times!

Songkran in AC with all the usual suspects from Pattaya. 😀

Absolutely rammed with totty in those days. So many girls on the stages that they could not move round when "dancing" so you had the same ones in front of you until they did a shift change.

"Cherry Girls" 🤣  

boom boom? - No boom boom

Ass? He, he he - No ass

BJ - No BJ

No lady drink then!

OK, BJ but no ass!  🤣

[Yesitisdakid]

You ( and RR007) have made me get all nostalgic particularly as we stayed mostly in the Pacific Breeze too.
Didn't we have some great times!
Songkran in AC with all the usual suspects from Pattaya. [emoji3]
Absolutely rammed with totty in those days. So many girls on the stages that they could not move round when "dancing" so you had the same ones in front of you until they did a shift change.
"Cherry Girls" [emoji1787]  
boom boom? - No boom boom
Ass? He, he he - No ass
BJ - No BJ
No lady drink then!
OK, BJ but no ass!  [emoji1787]

Indeed a trip is only as good as those you take it with those good times will never be repeated

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[RR007]

........Emmaline simply didnt want to go home....after a another session we retire to the Pool and grab some Sun.....I find on Youtube "Emma" By Hot Chocolate turn the phone up and say "for you" lol.....shes mesmerized said she'd never heard before...friend for life in fact she hasnt stopped via messenger since we left....

Really noticeable the difference in pollution in the air.   Absolutely clear skies in Angeles unlike the haze am staring up at in Pattaya right now.....Obviously weather will change with the seasons for the rest of the trip

If you're into the sun we found that clear skies through to about 1pm and then a gradually build up of cloud

I sat on the lounger and was soaked in sweat within 2 minutes burning off the booze.....and really was a case of same sequence of boozing and best Girls we could find with most expensive being that 2150 Baht (3500 Peso) bar fine.....I was lobbing them 200 Peso  for trike in morning no idea if thats the norm or should have been more.....whatever every single one was up for repeats so clearly not an issue

Favourites were Shooters Lancelot and Baiking (Viking).....if you want to stay on the piss 24/7 lol go to Voodoo which is open 24 hours a day even at 6am it was going strong and I thought it might be wise to sleep

Special shout to Atlantis and Xs Showbars

In Atlantis an absolutely huge place they had simply the best 4 Girl pole dancing team I've ever seen in my life all on one pole at the same time....absolutely brillaint and than some

In Xs another huge place decent floor shows inbetween dancing.....Koreans on upper level decide to start throwing notes. I can see them floating down and all pretence at dancing as ended....they're 1000 Peso notes lol.....every dancer showgirl waitress hostess  outside security guys are now on stage jumping to grab them....a one off ??  Nope lol...this goes on for 30 minutes. No idea what those guys went through but the girls were over the moon not surprisingly

High Society was the main disco from what we could see. An absolute sausage fest for sure.....in the main they wont or cant go LT because from chatting to many they are hotel staff cleaners waitresses etc

Mate had a double team for 923 Baht each (1500 Peso) and said they were right lezzers as a bonus. Geezer could hardly walk straight to Kokomos following morning

The ones that did or would go LT were quoting 3000 Peso far too much in my opinion you can take out a Go Go for that or it may well have been they quoted high as didnt want to go in the first place.

Food was fine for me. Others have said its bland but I was fine. Ministop convenience stores got all the basics we need plus snacks etc. Water was double the price of Thailand. There was also a 7/11 further up from top of Walking St.....local booze Gin was incredibly cheap.

Laundry just opposite Pacific Breeze hotel 170 Peso for 1kg of gear worked out about the same for 6 shirts as Pattaya.

Couple of videos attached obviously not mine.....Every Saturday Scorebirds has a pool party from 2pm to 6pm....as a non resident it was 500 Peso to get in....right laugh as you can imagine that and the bikini competitions. I assume if you're staying at Scorebirds its free

Have uploaded one of the videoes from Walking St that was on youtube....it kinda reflected accurately the lack of punters strolling around Walking St...There are many others as well

Would I come again.....definately yes. Same same but different a good expression I would say

Girls Cheap...Our own booze very cheap.....LDs which you could avoid obviously were expensive.....Disco Girls cheap to boot.

Group trip planned for November

We booked via Hotels own website. Could have been cheaper via one of the booking sites but as only 5 nights no sweat

Really enjoyable trip all around.......

 

https://www.pacificbreezehotel.com/

http://scorebirdshotel.com/index.php

The two hotels are literally 50 metres apart and virtually no traffic noise....

Edited February 22, 2020 by RR007

[Golfingboy]

Thanks again for adding to your report, it’s much appreciated. Even if it’s less than a week, definitely hitting Philippines next trip to Asia

[RR007]

4 hours ago, Golfingboy said:

Thanks again for adding to your report, it’s much appreciated. Even if it’s less than a week, definitely hitting Philippines next trip to Asia

I'd say by our experience you can go 3 pricing levels.....not saying set in stone but say top end girl 2150 Baht (3500 Peso) plus say 200 Peso tip in morning

Booze from 65 baht to 92 baht (105 to 150 Peso) in Go Go bar really cheap....even cheaper in Sports Bars like Envy

Disco Girls say (923 Baht) 1500 Peso ST (I'm not into ST but mate always is and he had his pick in High Society at 1500 P)....I cant edit earlier post but meant to say SML in High Society Disco was just 62 Baht (1000 Peso).....there is an entry fee which varies from 200 Peso down to zero midweek

In hindsight I was pleased I didnt do any research other than few forum threads etc and just winged it because it turned out perfectly.....I think obviously anyone on here will grasp the scene PDQ but if you'd never been to Asia at all may have been different

Mid November we're looking at a 10 dayer

 

Edited February 23, 2020 by RR007

[RR007]

One item I forget to mention and kinda important if you're either tall or fat lol

Avoid Air Asia to Don Muaeng. The smallest seats I have ever seen on a scheduled flight. I was incredibly lucky that I had an empty seat beside me otherwise I would have been stood at the back for 3 hours. Absolutely ludicrous seriously. (The outbound on Cebu Pacific was fine)

[Golfingboy]

8 minutes ago, RR007 said:

I'd say by our experience you can go 3 pricing levels.....not saying set in stone but say top end girl 2150 Baht (3500 Peso) plus say 200 Peso tip in morning

Booze from 65 baht to 92 baht (105 to 150 Peso) in Go Go bar really cheap....even cheaper in Sports Bars like Envy

Disco Girls say (923 Baht) 1500 Peso ST (I'm not into ST but mate always is and he had his pick in High Society at 1500 P)....I cant edit earlier post but meant to say SML in High Society Disco was just 62 Baht (1000 Peso).....there is an entry fee which varies from 200 Peso down to zero midweek

In hindsight I was pleased I didnt do any research other than few forum threads etc and just winged it because it turned out perfectly.....I think obviously anyone on here will grasp the scene PDQ but if you'd never been to Asia at all may have been different

Mid November we're looking at a 10 dayer

 

Ok, good to know all that. When I’m ready, I want to enjoy myself and not penny pinch on ladies or hotels. But it’s comforting to know  we can go to AC and not need to spend $400+ a night to have fun with decent company. Always been a binge drinker, but really lost the taste for it the last few years, so more worried about those double LD, than my own beer prices. My other worry is safety, lets be honest as messed as I’ve been many nights in LOS, the most I’ve been “robbed”was WS disco where I gave the guy 1K for 2 beers, and when he walked away I forgot about my change. But in Phils I know there’s much more petty theft. I always like to carry enough cash for a week of fun, but over there it sounds like it might be safer to pay those damn fees and hit ATM more often, and not risk losing a huge wad

[Golfingboy]

11 minutes ago, RR007 said:

One item I forget to mention and kinda important if you're either tall or fat lol

Avoid Air Asia to Don Muaeng. The smallest seats I have ever seen on a scheduled flight. I was incredibly lucky that I had an empty seat beside me otherwise I would have been stood at the back for 3 hours. Absolutely ludicrous seriously. (The outbound on Cebu Pacific was fine)

Thanks again......6’1, 325 qualifies, no? 

[RR007]

15 minutes ago, Golfingboy said:

Ok, good to know all that. When I’m ready, I want to enjoy myself and not penny pinch on ladies or hotels. But it’s comforting to know  we can go to AC and not need to spend $400+ a night to have fun with decent company. Always been a binge drinker, but really lost the taste for it the last few years, so more worried about those double LD, than my own beer prices.

Although I'd heard of this Double LD thing absolutely didnt come across it to my knowledge.

As regards Air Asia I've shrunk slightly lol I was over 6 foot 3 but around 6 foot 2 now. I'm around 107kg as well....Wasnt the width of seat but purely the pitch that was the issue

Pacific Breeze has an ATM inside foyer I should have added. Didnt use it personally

Edited February 23, 2020 by RR007

[forcebwithu]

27 minutes ago, RR007 said:

Although I'd heard of this Double LD thing absolutely didnt come across it to my knowledge.

As regards Air Asia I've shrunk slightly lol I was over 6 foot 3 but around 6 foot 2 now. I'm around 107kg as well....Wasnt the width of seat but purely the pitch that was the issue

Pacific Breeze has an ATM inside foyer I should have added. Didnt use it personally

Great TR. As for double LD, at 350P LD's I think you might have been paying for double LD's without realizing it.

[RR007]

7 minutes ago, forcebwithu said:

Great TR. As for double LD, at 350P LD's I think you might have been paying for double LD's without realizing it.

You could be right. You mean as in double gin and tonics for example ??  (so we wouldnt know)

Having said that some of Girls were drinking a single SML but still 350 P

[forcebwithu]

8 minutes ago, RR007 said:

You could be right. You mean as in double gin and tonics for example ??  (so we wouldnt know)

Having said that some of Girls were drinking a single SML but still 350 P

I seem to recall bottle beer is treated as a double LD. You have to specify a single LD when ordering, and then they only get a glass of something that passes as a drink.

[RR007]

6 minutes ago, forcebwithu said:

I seem to recall bottle beer is treated as a double LD. You have to specify a single LD when ordering, and then they only get a glass of something that passes as a drink.

Great information appreciate that. I thought they were eye wateringly expensive compared to everything else...still if that was the only mistake we made we didnt come out too badly !

Edited February 23, 2020 by RR007