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10 minutes ago, Esco said:

Well we've been confined to our homes for 2 weeks now so next week it will have been 3 weeks since we stopped going out, which is the maximum incubation period, hence the expected peak before we see a reduction in cases. 

I wasn't aware it could incubate for 3 weeks.

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4 minutes ago, boydeste said:

I wasn't aware it could incubate for 3 weeks.

Between 3 and 10 days incubation but then it can still take more than a week for symptoms to become so bad people actually feel the need to call a doctor. 

To give you an example, a guy from my team had all the symptoms of Corona 2,5 weeks ago but 28 and healthy so 1) they didn't test him and 2) he recovered in 1,5 weeks. His girlfriend has it too and he had to take her to the doctor today because she's still not recovered, had a fever and her breathing got harder. They saw the doctor today who said she's showing symptoms of only a "medium case" so she got sent home again instead of hospital and she still didn't get tested. Fingers crossed the poor girl will recover over the weekend. 

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2 hours ago, Krapow said:

@Thai Spice

Fill your boots Spicy, a 'French' alternative view.

Covid 19 : The game is over?!

http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/covid-19-the-game-is-over-305275.html

Bloody hell, you must be bored to death to dig up and read that kind of stuff.....

Better stick to watching 24/7 reporting and the death ticker.

 

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35 minutes ago, Thai Spice said:

Bloody hell, you must be bored to death to dig up and read that kind of stuff.....

Better stick to watching 24/7 reporting and the death ticker.

 

I like to read a broad, eclectic range of viewpoints :default_biggrin:

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10 hours ago, fforest said:

Sir you obviously have not been watching enough TV--programming...

That is precisely correct.  I also don't watch those stupid movies about weird epidemics, vampires, zombies, or other things many people seem to think are one step from true stories.

I was chatting with a plant safety officer at work today, trained EMT, former cop, etc.  He was agreeing with me 100% about this being overblown, about people not understanding how full their bodies and their entire WORLDS are with bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc.  Blamed it on the media same as me, etc. 

Like me, he also can't believe we're quarantining healthy people with no known risk factors, no positive test, etc., so that people with risk factors, including young folks who don't find out about their risk factors until it's too late or not at all, don't get sick.

We also chatted, and agreed, about the negative effect things like hand sanitizers, disinfectant sprays and wipes, etc. have on people. 

First, they give people a false sense of security that they live in a germ-free world, from which they are free to germ-shame and virtue signal toward those of us who know better and just want to get on with our lives.  These people would hurl themselves out a high-floor window if they had any clue about how rich the bacterial flora are in their lives, including in their bodies.

Also, the reduction in the bacteria and viruses in their environments in turn reduces the amount of bacteria and viruses their bodies have to confront.  This makes their immune systems weak and "lazy", because they aren't continuously generating antibodies and fighting off infections.  No telling how many "otherwise healthy young people" actually have immune systems weakened by decades or even an entire life spent douching themselves and everything around them with antiseptics.

IMO, COVID-19 is as much a sickness of our society as it is a sickness of the body.  It's a sick society that thinks their environment is germ-free or otherwise under their control, or could be.  It's a sick society that wants to blame other people for the objective reality of communicable diseases, at risk populations, and their own unwise social  behavior.  And, it's a sick society that believes government has a responsibility (let alone the ability) to protect them from the risks and potential outcomes represented by those objective realities.

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26 minutes ago, Rompho Ray said:

If so, maybe they should think about not begging the government to destroy the economy, and their jobs along with it.

Some brilliant posts on here you old right wing Klu Klux Klan loving cross burning Barry Goldwater supporting piece of shite.

But you know I adore your company Ray and our banter over 14 years I have known you.

Do you still play the harmonica .......... don't breathe too deep just now when playing the Blues.

For those of you who don't know Ray he thinks Trump is a pinko liberal.

But he is 10000% not a racist met some of my black mates and a top geezer. 

Good to know you are doing well mate .......... now are you sure Trump was not born in Hawaii .............. am I confused here ????????????

Love ya blue ........... 

 

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9 hours ago, Lemondropkid said:

I'm not a medical expert( own background is Economics/Maths & I.T)  so will go with what the experts are telling us here in the UK.

The same sorts of "experts" that used to believe in spontaneous generation, humours, bloodletting, and socialist medical systems, none of which have proven effective in preventing this sort of thing?  Thanks, I'll stick with common sense.

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1 hour ago, Thai Spice said:

Normal, its the GREATEST country in the world....

 

Well, we're intelligent enough to know that very few people are being tested, so the number of positive test results has nothing to do with the actual number of cases.

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Just now, Rompho Ray said:

LOL!  Back at ya mate.

BTW, Trump may be a lot of things, but he is most definitely not right-wing, at least by our definition.

Yeah but he is not intelligent clearly sociopathic narcissist whatever that means.

You with same Ms lovely you introduced me to in the RH few years back when you were limping worse than Larry. ??

She was gorgeous ...........lucky bastard :default_cheers:

 

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Lung damage seen in recently asymptomatic coronavirus patient

Disturbing video shows how COVID-19 ravaged the lungs of a patient who had been asymptomatic
just days earlier.

Dr. Keith Mortman, the chief of thoracic surgery at George Washington University Hospital, said the
hospital created a 360-degree image of the lungs of a 59-year-old male patient who had been
generally healthy except for a history of high blood pressure
, CNN reported.

In the scans, the yellow areas, which highlight the infected and inflamed regions, cover both of the
lungs.

“This is a guy who’s minding his own business and gets it,” Mortman told CNN. “If we were to
repeat the [360-degree virtual reality images] now, that is one week later, there is a chance that the
infection and inflammatory process could be worse.”

The patient, who remains in critical condition in the ICU, has required a ventilator on the highest
setting to breathe, CNN reported.

Mortman said it’s not known whether the man will fully recover, since for some patients, the
damage has so far been irreversible
.

“I want people to see this and understand what this can do,” Mortman said. “People need to take
this seriously.” 
 Most do, except the "let 'er rip" brigade.

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/lung-damage-seen-in-recently-asymptomatic-coronavirus-patient/

 

So if hypertension was the contributing factor...

During 2015–2016, the prevalence of hypertension was 29.0% and increased with age: age group 18–39, 7.5%; 40–59, 33.2%; and 60 and over, 63.1%.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db289.htm

I guess at least 1 in 3 of those 40yo or over should be in isolation.

 

 

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