COVID 19 GLOBAL

[Krapow]

33 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said:

You would be mad not to, British passport will be about as much use as toilet roll in the next 20 years.

Wish I could get my Wife one.

[dcfc2007]

4 minutes ago, Krapow said:

Wish I could get my Wife one.

Is she not entitled as she's married to an Irish citizen. 

[galenkia]

2 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

You would be mad not to, British passport will be about as much use as toilet roll in the next 20 years.

You can use it for wiping your arse during the second wave lockdown. 

[Stillearly]

2 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

You would be mad not to, British passport will be about as much use as toilet roll in the next 20 years.

But you can get blue ones now ..... 

[Yessongs]

23 hours ago, Skalliwag said:

Beauty.Looking good.Is there a Pedros in Palm Springs?

Many Mexican food restaurants places in Palm Springs.....are you there now? Nice place, and warm. 

22 hours ago, lazarus said:

Looks like a nice meal out...
I'm sure a lot of people will be doing this. Tired of eating at home.

I worked in Los Gatos back in the late 1970s at a place called the Courtside Racket Club. Lots of high rollers even back then.
The word was the Los Gatos Ferrari dealer was #1 in the US. Even before it was Silicon Valley.

Seriously buddy, 2 things I am missing the most are dinners out and the gym. 

Courtside Racket club huh? Oh yeah, remember it well...it is now the "Bay Club Courtside" How do I remember?  First time ever taking wifey#1 on our first date there for dinner back in 1982.  Los Gatos Lamborghini I drive by quite a bit........and dream. Stay safe. 

[coxyhog]

A bunch of pikey's have set up camp at a Coronavirus testing centre in Watford.Probably be seen as racist to remove them.

 

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/18511499.travellers-set-up-camp-watford-coronavirus-testing-centre/

[galenkia]

43 minutes ago, coxyhog said:

A bunch of pikey's have set up camp at a Coronavirus testing centre in Watford.Probably be seen as racist to remove them.

 

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/18511499.travellers-set-up-camp-watford-coronavirus-testing-centre/

Salt of the earth those travelling Romany chaps. 

At least you can buy some lucky Heather. 

[Evil Penevil]

Second U.S. Wave Emerges as Cases Spike

in 22 States Weeks After States Reopen

A surge of Covid-19 cases in pockets across the U.S. is raising alarms that a second wave of coronavirus has emerged, even as total infections rose less than 1% this week, the smallest increase since March.

New outbreaks have been observed in 22 states, but health experts say they can't be directly linked to economies reopening, and it's still too soon to tell whether mass protests against police brutality will cause a spike.

Still, evidence of a budding second wave is strongest in:

• Arizona: The daily tally of new cases has abruptly spiked over the last two weeks, hitting an all-time high of 1,187 on June 2.
• California: Hospitalizations are at their highest since May 13 and have risen in nine of the past 10 days.
• Florida: A month into its reopening, officials reported 8,553 new cases this week, the most of any seven-day period.
• Texas: Reported hospitalizations jumped 6.3% to 2,056, the highest since the pandemic began, and the third consecutive daily increase.

The U.S. has long been bracing for another wave as cases near 2 million and deaths top 112,000, but future outbreaks won't mirror the first, said Emory University public health professor Lance Waller: "It’s not snapping back exactly the same, because we’re not exactly the way we were."

 

 

[Krapow]

3 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

Is she not entitled as she's married to an Irish citizen. 

Unfortunately not. She'd need to be habitually resident in the Republic.

[Horizondave]

3 hours ago, Krapow said:

Unfortunately not. She'd need to be habitually resident in the Republic.

Nothing wrong with a British passport mate, that time will come.

[Lemondropkid]

4 hours ago, Krapow said:

Reported!

Clearly anti-Semitic post 😱

Well done- a very unpleasant post. I had thought the guy mad but sort of OK, but posting that I'll withdraw that view. There's an anti-Semitic Rothschild video on his hero's Jake YouTube channel- Goebells lite for those with a short attention span.

At least he's cleared up the "they" he's always referring to as benefitting from COVID-19.

[Krapow]

I didn't report it, but yea, usual far right conspiracy bollocks. 

 

[Krapow]

52 minutes ago, Horizondave said:

Nothing wrong with a British passport mate, that time will come.

Aye, either or. 

Her immigration status is fine anyway, though would be more handy to have either. 

[dcfc2007]

Pretty much everything is open here now apart from pubs, restaurants, gyms, barbers and schools/colleges. However, I suspect by the end of July they will all be opened bar schools/colleges as that is the end of term here anyhow. It is great to get a sense of normality back. 

[fygjam]

On 4/29/2020 at 11:07 AM, fygjam said:

It's been called a war. Let's compare.

On the 29th April, 1975, the US recorded the last combat deaths of the Vietnam war bringing the total deaths to 58,320 (number of names on the Vietnam memorial, 58,220 DCAS).

On the 29th April, 2020, the Covid-19 death count in the US is 59,266 (Worldometer) or 58,356 (Johns Hopkins). Both in excess of the number of deaths in Vietnam.

The "bloodiest day" of the Vietnam war occured on the 31st January, 1968, with 246 deaths.

The highest daily number of deaths from Covid-19 in the US (so far) is 2,683.

Daily deaths from Covid-19 surpassed 246 on the 24th March, 2020. Is hasn't fallen below 246 since.

It took 5,775 days from the 8th July, 1959, until the 29th April, 1975, for the Vietnam death toll to reach 58,320.

It took 82 days from the 6th February, 2020, to the 28th April, 2020, for the Covid-19 death toll to reach 59,266.

In 1975 millions protested to end the war and bring the troops home.

In 2020 thousands protested to shut away the old people, which probably includes most Vietnam veterans, and open the bowling alleys, beauty salons and tattoo parlours.

 

 

 

 

Getting back on topic...

 

That didn't take very long at all.

On 28th April the US had taken just 82 days for Covid-19 deaths to surpass the number of deaths incurred during the Vietnam war (58,320).

45 days later and they have doubled that number. (Currently 116,025 by Worldometer and increasing by about 1,000 per day).

 

Didn't someone say the virus would magically disappear when the weather warmed up.

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Second U.S. Wave Emerges as Cases Spike

in 22 States Weeks After States Reopen

A surge of Covid-19 cases in pockets across the U.S. is raising alarms that a second wave of coronavirus has emerged, even as total infections rose less than 1% this week, the smallest increase since March.

New outbreaks have been observed in 22 states, but health experts say they can't be directly linked to economies reopening, and it's still too soon to tell whether mass protests against police brutality will cause a spike.

Still, evidence of a budding second wave is strongest in:

• Arizona: The daily tally of new cases has abruptly spiked over the last two weeks, hitting an all-time high of 1,187 on June 2.
• California: Hospitalizations are at their highest since May 13 and have risen in nine of the past 10 days.
• Florida: A month into its reopening, officials reported 8,553 new cases this week, the most of any seven-day period.
• Texas: Reported hospitalizations jumped 6.3% to 2,056, the highest since the pandemic began, and the third consecutive daily increase.

The U.S. has long been bracing for another wave as cases near 2 million and deaths top 112,000, but future outbreaks won't mirror the first, said Emory University public health professor Lance Waller: "It’s not snapping back exactly the same, because we’re not exactly the way we were."

 

 

 

[lazarus]

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2020/06/photos-of-the-week-royal-ride-shattered-glass-road-bison/612604/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-photo-newsletter&utm_content=20200605&silverid=MzQ1ODAyOTY3ODM2S0

Isidre Correa, a hospital patient, is taken to the seaside by intensive health-care staff outside the Hospital del Mar in Barcelona, Spain, on June 3, 2020. Correa was taken into the ICU on April 14 after his coronavirus infection worsened while he had been in the hospital since April 9. On June 3, he left the ICU to continue his recovery at the hospital. Hospital del Mar has been taking COVID-19 patients from the ICU to the seaside as part of their recovery process, aiming to humanize its ICUs.

[Ivan the terrible]

 

 

Imagine that? Coronavirus flew in to UK at least 1,356 times — Open Borders is deadly

New research of the WuFlu “gene” lineage in the UK show that the virus kept being introduced via planes, trains and cars. The entire time that UK residents were being restricted in lockdown, tens of thousands of people were allowed to bring virus in through the border. Sabotage or Incompetence? The single failure to quarantine arrivals in the UK means the lockdown has gone on longer than it needed, cost more than it had too, has been less successful, and now, as the UK reopens, it does it with infections still running, when it could be doing it “like New Zealand”.

The BBC news mentioned that there were a lot of imported cases, that the biggest variety of genetic variants came from Spain, France and Italy and not China. But one tantalizing finding was that the UK transmission lines now appear to be “very rare or extinct”. Which surely implies that the lockdown is working, the UK lines are dying out, and that … by golly, the new infections must be regular incoming virus?

Three Key Conclusions:

1. The UK epidemic comprises a very large number of importations due to inbound international travel². We detect 1356 independently-introduced transmission lineages, however, we expect this number to be an under-estimate.
2. Many UK transmission lineages now appear to be very rare or extinct, as they have not been detected by genome sequencing for >4 weeks.
3. We estimate that ≈34% of detected UK transmission lineages arrived via inbound travel from Spain, ≈29% from France, ≈14% from Italy, and ≈23% from other countries. The relative contributions of these locations were highly dynamic.

Instead, according to the BBC the big surprise in this study was that there was “no patient zero” who went on to give 300,000 people in the UK Covid, though it’s hard to believe anyone older than six thought that was even possible.

In February a quarter of million people flew into the UK — that’s not in February “the month”, — it’s every single day. In a world of exponential rising infections surely even preschoolers can figure out the odds that millions of travellers were flying in from a world of sick, and somehow were not sick themselves.

In March, 20,000 people a day were flying in from Spain, where the infection was running rife. Many of these would be British people returning home. The study shows the incredible folly of keeping borders open.

Coronavirus came to UK ‘on at least 1,300 separate occasions’

James Gallagher, BBC, Health and Science Correspondent

The study, by the Covid-19 Genomics UK consortium (Cog-UK), completely quashes the idea that a single “patient zero” started the whole UK outbreak.

They found the UK’s coronavirus epidemic did not have one origin – but at least 1,356 origins. On each of those occasions somebody brought the infection into the UK from abroad and the virus began to spread as a result.

“The surprising and exciting conclusion is that we found the UK epidemic has resulted from a very large number of separate importations,” said Prof Nick Loman, from Cog-UK and the University of Birmingham.

“It wasn’t a patient zero,” he added.

The big surprise for me was that the number was so small. But the full study shows this is the tip of an iceberg. They analyzed data from 16,506 UK genomes, and another 12,000 genomes from other countries. So they looked at about 5% of the  known coronavirus infections in the UK (which is still an impressive sample). So when they say 1,300 separate infections arrived, the researchers admit “We expect the number is an underestimate”.  But it could be that 30,000 cases arrived across those open flowing borders. The researchers certainly don’t say that. They add that they do not attempt to measure the contributions of importation versus local transmission, nor to model the impact of the public health interventions. There are many caveats, and many assumptions. They have to estimate how fast the mutations are happening, how quickly they spread, how long it took to detect them, and how many of the subsequent transmissions they sampled.

The graph shows that the variants detected in early March have largely disappeared

…..

Most of the 1,356 lineages lasted for a month or so and died out. If those variants had successful spread and mutated they would look different to what they did on March 1 but there would still be a continuous chain of changes. The lineage wouldn’t have died out.

 

Figure 5: Estimated total number of inbound travellers to UK per day (black line) and the estimated number of infectious cases worldwide (dashed red line).

 

New cases in the UK are about 1,300 per day

How many of these new cases are from planes, trains and cars? How low would this tally be if instead the UK had put in border controls at the same time as it started major restrictions at the end of March? Mobility trackers show the UK was slowing down for most of March, and by the last week of March reached a full lockdown.

UK Cases Worldometer

 

UK Borders are Still Not Closed

Even though, as of this week, the UK government is demanding all arrivals self-isolate for two weeks, they are only collecting names and addresses and promising to check on some of them. There’s a  £1,000  fine for breaches, but only a £100 fine for people not filling in the form. (Seems like a cheap alternative to two weeks quarantine). The isolation is not only not enforced, it is not even a full 100% requirement — as those in self isolation are asked not to visit pharmacies and what not, unless they absolutely have to, and can’t find a friend to do it for them.

How not to quarantine people:

Individuals quarantining will be permitted to shop for food essentials and medicines but only if it is not possible to rely on others, and will be able to take public transport to their designated accommodation.

About a fifth of people are expected to receive a spot-check to ensure that they are staying at the address or addresses they have provided to the authorities, the Guardian understands.

Australia tried this kind of weak border control in March, and learnt quickly that it didn’t work. When Victorian police tried to check on arrivals, even though there were $1,652 dollar fines  for breaches, 10 to 20% of those in self isolation were not home when police turned up, and some had given false addresses. By March 28th all incoming travellers were put in enforced hotel quarantine. They were escorted to the hotels, separated, guarded, fed, and tested.

As I’ve said before, and this study shows, the biggest mistake the UK Swamp made – apart from being unprepared was leaving the borders open. Which are still not closed. The UK aimed for Herd Immunity (that was the excuse for keeping the borders open, while the rest of the world closed them), a deadly mistake that killed tens of thousands of people who didn’t need to die, and also cost billions upon billions of dollars in pointless damage to the UK economy.

Have you got Coronavirus, do you live in the third world? Where’s the best place you could fly for safety and healthcare — London.

 

Keep reading  →

 

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[dcfc2007]

[lazarus]

The US is going backward fighting COVID-19...nice summer weather, though. 😎

 

“Totally predictable”: State reopenings have backfired

...Covid-19 hospitalizations are rising in Arizona, the Carolinas, Utah, Arkansas, Texas, Tennessee, and perhaps Florida. Those states are also seeing higher numbers of positive Covid-19 tests, as well as increases in the percentage of tests that come back positive. This indicates that the higher case counts aren’t simply due to more widespread testing finding milder cases...

...Simply put, reopenings have led to more infections because more people are coming into contact with each other while there’s still a lot of virus around. Mask use is inconsistent, and even when they’re worn properly, masks are not 100 percent effective at preventing transmission...

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/6/12/21288009/new-covid-spikes-arizona-florida-carolinas-texas

 

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by lazarus

[Ivan the terrible]

17 minutes ago, lazarus said:

The US is going backward fighting COVID-19...nice summer weather, though. 😎

 

“Totally predictable”: State reopenings have backfired

...Covid-19 hospitalizations are rising in Arizona, the Carolinas, Utah, Arkansas, Texas, Tennessee, and perhaps Florida. Those states are also seeing higher numbers of positive Covid-19 tests, as well as increases in the percentage of tests that come back positive. This indicates that the higher case counts aren’t simply due to more widespread testing finding milder cases...

...Simply put, reopenings have led to more infections because more people are coming into contact with each other while there’s still a lot of virus around. Mask use is inconsistent, and even when they’re worn properly, masks are not 100 percent effective at preventing transmission...

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/6/12/21288009/new-covid-spikes-arizona-florida-carolinas-texas

 

 

So be it ..cannot stay in lockdown forever

However people who fail to socially distance aka BLM  are the most culpable ,never mind being mind numbingly stupid  self indulgent threats to their elderly relatives and the wider population...total fckwits 

[Stillearly]

England’s chief nurse was dropped from one of Downing Street’s daily coronavirus briefings after refusing to publicly back Dominic Cummings, senior sources have told The Independent.

As Boris Johnson’s chief aide was engulfed in scandal over his trips to Durham and Barnard Castle during lockdown, Ruth May had been due to appear alongside the health secretary Matt Hancock in the press conference.

But, in practice questions hours before the briefing, she was asked about Mr Cummings and, after failing to give support to the prime minister’s chief adviser, she was immediately dropped from the press conference, according to senior NHS sources.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-chief-nurse-dominic-cummings-ruth-may-daily-briefing-downing-street-a9562741.html

[lazarus]

17 minutes ago, Ivan the terrible said:

So be it ..cannot stay in lockdown forever

However people who fail to socially distance aka BLM  are the most culpable ,never mind being mind numbingly stupid  self indulgent threats to their elderly relatives and the wider population...total fckwits 

Yep. Cannot stay on lock down forever. However, wearing a mask and other actions can slow down and/or stop the virus. This is already proven to be in other countries.

From indications thus far in the US, outdoor protesters are not the risk for spreading the disease. It has been more than two weeks since the initial police brutality protests. There has been no data yet that shows this is where/why COVID-19 infections in the US are on the rise.

There is little if any supportive data from clinical studies that outdoor spread is happening to any significant degree anywhere. Unless you know of some?

Epidemiologists are saying that COVID-19 is primarily spread indoors -- e.g., by family members, at social gatherings, in churches, at large family events, workplaces & offices, etc.

COVID-19 spreads most efficiently when there is close proximity in a closed environment over an extended period of time.

Edited June 12, 2020 by lazarus

[Ivan the terrible]

Just now, lazarus said:

Yep. Cannot stay on lock down forever. However, wearing a mask and other actions can slow down and/or stop the virus. This is already proven to be in other countries.

From indications thus far in the US, outdoor protesters are not the risk for spreading the disease. It has been more than two weeks since the initial police brutality protests. There has been no data yet that shows this is where/why COVID-19 infections in the US are on the rise.

There is little if any supportive data from clinical studies that outdoor spread is happening to any significant degree anywhere. Unless you know of some?

Epidemiologists are saying that COVID-19 is primarily spread indoors -- e.g., by family members, at social gatherings, in churches, at large family events, workplaces & offices, etc. COVID-19 spreads most efficiently when there is close proximity in a closed environment over an extended period of time.

Its true outdoors is much less of a risk ,however there were hundreds of thousands at the Washington protests all shoulder to shoulder...still too early to tell as to the outcome,the youngsters will mostly just get a cold...its when they go visit their grandparents and secondary spread ..there will be a lag 

[lazarus]

20 minutes ago, Ivan the terrible said:

Its true outdoors is much less of a risk ,however there were hundreds of thousands at the Washington protests all shoulder to shoulder...still too early to tell as to the outcome,the youngsters will mostly just get a cold...its when they go visit their grandparents and secondary spread ..there will be a lag 

In Washington DC police brutality protesters numbered at most in the tens of thousands at any given time. Across the country the total was likely in the hundreds of thousands.

Without aggressive contact tracing (that might be impossible considering), and widespread testing (that may not exist) -- they may never know...

Estimates are already in the 150,000 -200,000 COVID-19 dead range by the end of the month.

As of today...for the United States it's  116,796 dead. ( https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/ )

Edited June 13, 2020 by lazarus

[lazarus]

Some thoughts on potential outdoor COVID-19 spread at protests...

Have nationwide protests led to a spike in US coronavirus cases?

... Photos from the demonstrations showed many young people, of various races, wearing face masks while protesting (though masks were not worn by all). The CDC recommends that everyone wear cloth face coverings when leaving their homes, regardless of whether they exhibit any COVID-19 symptoms. The cloth face covering is not a substitute for physical distancing - which the CDC recommends to be at least two metres (six feet). 

"The evidence suggests that although still significant, the risk of transmission of the virus in open spaces is much less than in indoor areas", said Amir Khan, a doctor and senior lecturer at the University of Leeds and the University of Bradford in the United Kingdom.

Khan added that "fresh air dilutes the virus to a degree that transmission is much less". Furthermore, "there is also some evidence, albeit small, that direct exposure to sunlight kills the virus quickly"...

If you have not been tested, you are not counted

Maia Lesosky, associate professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at the University of Cape Town, told Al Jazeera that "about 95 percent of people who experience symptoms get them within 14 days of infection, but in order see an increase in cases, we also need to account for the delay in getting tested and reported". Furthermore, she notes, "being outdoors certainly reduces the risk of transmission, by 20- to 500-fold according to some estimates." 

One of the stealthiest characteristics of the coronavirus is that it can be spread with little to no symptoms. This means that the number of people who are actually infected is probably much higher than the number of official confirmed cases.

Elaborating further, Lesosky said, "in contrast, the crowding that often happens during mass marches, and especially the responses by the police including the use of tear gas, pepper spray [respiratory irritants] and the arrest and incarceration of large numbers of people are very likely to increase transmission."

Across the world, health officials will be closely monitoring the figures where large protests have taken place.

In many countries, authorities have banned demonstrations due to health concerns, but protesters showed up nonetheless.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2020/06/nationwide-protests-led-spike-coronavirus-cases-200608052743621.html