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We look set to find out next month whether the US and UK vaccines work. Apparently the NHS has prepared mass vaccination sites and will begin the rollout before Xmas. It's going to be absolutely grim between now and then, but we are slowly coming to the end of this debacle. Now there's just the massive economic catostrophe to clean up... 

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6 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said:

We look set to find out next month whether the US and UK vaccines work. Apparently the NHS has prepared mass vaccination sites and will begin the rollout before Xmas. It's going to be absolutely grim between now and then, but we are slowly coming to the end of this debacle. Now there's just the massive economic catostrophe to clean up... 

where have you seen that ?


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/19/covid-vaccine-will-not-be-available-in-uk-until-spring-says-vallance

 

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5 minutes ago, Stillearly said:

Pfizer will apply for emergency US approval of the Covid-19 vaccine it is developing with Germany’s BioNTech in the third week of November, the pharma group said, assuming it receives positive results from its current trial.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/96614ecd-c854-4582-a1a6-76c050c5c847

 

According to the Sunday Times, Van-Tam said: “We aren't light years away from [a successful vaccine]. It isn't a totally unrealistic suggestion we could deploy a vaccine soon after Christmas. That would have a significant impact on hospital admissions and deaths.

 

The UK Government changed laws this weekend to grant pharmacists, dentists, midwives and paramedics permission to administer jabs. Thousands of NHS staff are now being trained to administer a vaccine in the hope of a mass roll-out by new year.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18803290.covid-vaccine-jonathan-van-tam-hopeful-mass-roll-out-new-year/

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The vaccine won't eradicate Covid, at best it will be like the flu jab, yearly, will help stop you get it or if you do, not hit as hard. 

That's what i think anyway.

And there will definitely be vaccines, too much money to be made for there not to be. 

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1 hour ago, Krapow said:

The vaccine won't eradicate Covid, at best it will be like the flu jab, yearly, will help stop you get it or if you do, not hit as hard. 

That's what i think anyway.

And there will definitely be vaccines, too much money to be made for there not to be. 

Covid only hits hard for a tiny minority of people. Better still, improved treatments have reduced the case fatility rate for those that do get into trouble. It's only good news from here, despite what Prof Witless, Dr Doom and the other morons try to say.

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49 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said:

Covid only hits hard for a tiny minority of people. Better still, improved treatments have reduced the case fatility rate for those that do get into trouble. It's only good news from here, despite what Prof Witless, Dr Doom and the other morons try to say.

Yeah, I think I'll leave the conclusions to the scientists & docs for the time being. 

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3 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

We look set to find out next month whether the US and UK vaccines work. Apparently the NHS has prepared mass vaccination sites and will begin the rollout before Xmas. It's going to be absolutely grim between now and then, but we are slowly coming to the end of this debacle. Now there's just the massive economic catostrophe to clean up... 

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7 hours ago, galenkia said:

Time to stop obsessing about Covid. 

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People obsessing over case numbers. What does it matter if there were nearly 19,000 cases if only a few percent of people require treatment for their symptoms. If the NHS can't handle 5,000 admissions nationwide, perhaps it's the NHS that's the problem, not Covid-19. 

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15 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said:

People obsessing over case numbers. What does it matter if there were nearly 19,000 cases if only a few percent of people require treatment for their symptoms. If the NHS can't handle 5,000 admissions nationwide, perhaps it's the NHS that's the problem, not Covid-19. 

Covid infections have definitely pushed health care systems beyond their limits in a number of countries. Imagine if they did nothing to stop it?

New cases become vectors for more infections and are bellwethers for future deaths. Fortunately, doctors and scientists have leaned a lot in the past 9+ months and treatments have become more effective in keeping (some) people alive.

IMO, politicians & the media playing doctor are the real problem.

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5 hours ago, Horizondave said:

Restaurants, pubs doing everything they can to stop the virus spreading including, table service, wearing of masks when not seated, booking via apps, screens between tables or more distance between those seated, being met by a staff member with a mask on to pass on info etc = blame for the virus spreading so must close down.

School run, no masks, no social distancing, the same 6 adults everyday standing all within 2 metres having a good old natter, headmistress sending messages to tell them to socially distance for the sake of the pupils and possible school closure and yet totally ignored, no doubt the same adults not keeping to the rules about who they meet, who they invite in their houses etc = no problem because Boris trusts the people to do the right thing.

It's not the pubs who are trying to keep people in employment and adhering to everything asked of them that are the problem, it is the ignorant public who don't believe the rules apply to them and will carry on until it bites their own arse.

Boris has put his trust in the people, some can not be trusted to assist.

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7 hours ago, Horizondave said:

Restaurants, pubs doing everything they can to stop the virus spreading including, table service, wearing of masks when not seated, booking via apps, screens between tables or more distance between those seated, being met by a staff member with a mask on to pass on info etc = blame for the virus spreading so must close down.

School run, no masks, no social distancing, the same 6 adults everyday standing all within 2 metres having a good old natter, headmistress sending messages to tell them to socially distance for the sake of the pupils and possible school closure and yet totally ignored, no doubt the same adults not keeping to the rules about who they meet, who they invite in their houses etc = no problem because Boris trusts the people to do the right thing.

It's not the pubs who are trying to keep people in employment and adhering to everything asked of them that are the problem, it is the ignorant public who don't believe the rules apply to them and will carry on until it bites their own arse.

Boris has put his trust in the people, some can not be trusted to assist.

Agree- have seen exactly the same at my local school.

Boris pick policies on how they look, not if they make sense and he has no interest in whether they work or enforcing them.

All the bookmakers (off track betting have been closed), the minutes from SAGE (his scientific advisors ) specifically stated that bookmakers with the measures they had put in place (like pubs), had negligible role in the transmission of COVID

And still Mr " We will follow the science" closed them all the same- it's all about the optics.

We've got the worst of both worlds.

Regulations that will ruin the economy, that are ill though out/ unenforced where they should be and won't slow the spread.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8861271/amp/Why-Victorias-lockdown-killed-four-newborn-babies.html

 

Four babies have died in Adelaide in the past four weeks after they could not be airlifted to Melbourne due to the city's coronavirus lockdown.

South Australia does not have a cardiac unit for children meaning seriously ill newborns with heart issues are normally taken to Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital - but this option has been ruled out due to the pandemic, an inquiry heard on Tuesday.

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