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4 hours ago, forcebwithu said:

Off the top of my head I can't think of any vaccines that don't require a booster shot.

Tetenus requires boosters. Used to be every 10 years or so. I believe the Hep A & B vaccines as well. All three of those are critical vaccinations most of us have had since early on.

 

Reason why medical records attempts to record your vaccination history so you and your health care providers can keep you current.

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5 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

Well, ask a simple technical question, nobody answers....

Say ONE thing about mask or vaccine, you have 10 answers barking ...

FFS !

Don't get upset now, thought it was a rhetorical question🙃

It's already happening, patients have been moved from London to Yorkshire already. Further plans being put in place to moves patients, staff and equipment where necessary.

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6 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said:

Don't get upset now, thought it was a rhetorical question🙃

It's already happening, patients have been moved from London to Yorkshire already. Further plans being put in place to moves patients, staff and equipment where necessary.

Spicey is a keyboard warrior(albeit a very enthusiastic one) living on an island nearly 8000 miles from the UK who keeps on pontificating about Covid in the UK.He obviously has little to occupy his mind so he spends it all on Google and other websites researching about Covid in the UK to create foment amongst us that live here and are experiencing it first hand.

I take whatever he says with a pinch of salt about the size of a large boulder.

No insult intended Spicey.

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1 hour ago, Lemondropkid said:

Don't get upset now, thought it was a rhetorical question🙃

It's already happening, patients have been moved from London to Yorkshire already. Further plans being put in place to moves patients, staff and equipment where necessary.

Voila, that is what I call a proper answer !

 

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3 hours ago, coxyhog said:

Spicey is a keyboard warrior(albeit a very enthusiastic one) living on an island nearly 8000 miles from the UK who keeps on pontificating about Covid in the UK.He obviously has little to occupy his mind so he spends it all on Google and other websites researching about Covid in the UK to create foment amongst us that live here and are experiencing it first hand.

I take whatever he says with a pinch of salt about the size of a large boulder.

No insult intended Spicey.

No keyboard warrior at all mate.

But this Covid thing is an interestic social event, in the sense that the human reaction / social part is way more fascinating than the disease itself. The disease is just that, and a cure will be found or not. The world has survived 1000's of diseases, it will survive that one. Of course,.like every disease it wiln claim victims. But so does tobacco, alcohol and drugs without even being diseases ....

I follow France, UK, Belgium. Why ? Because it are 3 countries where reliable data is publicly available in languages that I master, and where I can read the papers. I could add Germany but my German language skills are very rusty.

I tried to check for the US, but it is very difficult to find data at country level, its mostly by state. And besides that, after all the shiite we seen there during the elections, I much doubt about their data .

I am indeed retired, and have a bit of time available. Some spend it on watching dart games, or snooker...well to each his own. But rest reassured, Covid doesn't take more than an hour a day to stay updated.

My stock market stuff 2 or 3. 

The rest of my hours as you all know I spend drinking gallons of Bintang.

OK, off to the morning swim ! 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Lemondropkid said:

It's already happening, patients have been moved from London to Yorkshire already. Further plans being put in place to moves patients, staff and equipment where necessary.

A bit troubled by that part. 

I mean the idea of moving patients to hospitals in low Covid areas is to free beds and equipment in the originating hospital in the "red" areas.

But if you move the staff and equipment together with the patient, you simply reduce the capacity of the originating hospital.

Doesn't make sense to me, or is there something that escapes me ?

Technical question, technical answers only plse...

 

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15 minutes ago, code_slayer_bkk said:

Just came across this article about Letlow's death ... I don't know what to believe anymore ...

https://thelibertyloft.com/the-true-cause-of-letlows-death-was-not-covid-19/

"...   Letlow had a procedure performed due to the COVID virus, but that he had a heart attack during the procedure. The heart attack was the cause of death." 

Liberty Loft has a strange way of viewing things! 

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48 minutes ago, Bazle said:

"...   Letlow had a procedure performed due to the COVID virus, but that he had a heart attack during the procedure. The heart attack was the cause of death." 

Liberty Loft has a strange way of viewing things! 

It's the old "it's not the fall that kills you, it's the stop at the end" logic.

An effect of Covid-19 is hypercoagulability. As I posted back in March, a comment from a New York doctor "we're finding blood clots the size of hot dogs in Covid patients". I'd take a guess that the procedure was to remove a "hot dog" and it broke up and caused a heart attack.

Edit.

It wasn't March it was April 13 when I posted about "hot dogs".

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

A bit troubled by that part. 

I mean the idea of moving patients to hospitals in low Covid areas is to free beds and equipment in the originating hospital in the "red" areas.

But if you move the staff and equipment together with the patient, you simply reduce the capacity of the originating hospital.

Doesn't make sense to me, or is there something that escapes me ?

Technical question, technical answers only plse...

 

I think the most common move would be patients. So current moves from London (Red, going on to Black) to lower Yorkshire. Don't think in the UK patients will be moved from low COVID areas to high.

However you could have a separate argument over what constitutes a "low" level of infection. By international standards pretty much everywhere circa 80% of the UK would be high

In terms of originating hospitals some of these have the capability to be "expanded" in the short term. Maybe this protect capacity?  A thought, can't say I know for sure.

As to moving equipment + staff, I'd guess again and say that you need staff with the appropriate level of training to operate a machine.

From my chatting to nurses I know working in the NHS, even with one generic type of machine, let's say ventilator (that may not be best example but let's go with it), that for one type of machine, they can be many different models and modes of operating depending on the age of it. Being able to operate type of generic machine may not be guarantee of operating all.

At this point it probably does need stressing the obvious, that this can be a life or death thing.

Iv'e got one family member whose a very high skilled intensive care nurse. She learned her trade in what would have been a relatively antiquated rural hospital. She now works in a specialist intensive care unit in a central London hospital- chalk and cheese. In rare situations when things are stretched (like now), she has the skills and experience to work with older equipment/none that nurses say trained in a very well equipped modern hospital may not have.

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