fygjam Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Lemondropkid said: Correct based on the trial of Sinovac in Brazil: "Last week researchers at the Butantan Institute, which has been conducting the trials in Brazil, announced that the vaccine had a 78% efficacy against "mild-to-severe" Covid-19 cases. But on Tuesday they revealed that calculations for this figure did not include data from a group of "very mild infections" among those who received the vaccine that did not require clinical assistance. With the inclusion of this data, the efficacy rate is now 50.4%, said researchers." Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-55642648 However the global standard for deployment of any vaccine is that is has to over 50% effective. Myself I'd obviously rather go for the expensive 95% stone cold Pfizer. Sure private providers will spring up offering the "good stuff"- you pays your money and you takes your choice🙂 The Coronavac trial will adjust the figures to give you the efficacy you want. The 50.4% (50.38%) is what you get when all trial participants are included. Saw some figures a while back. Moderna and Pfizer about $US20 per dose (dunno if wholesale or retail). AstraZeneca about $US2-3 per dose. No idea the cost of Coronavac but it's manufactured old school. Whip up a batch of virus, clobber them with chemicals, stir in some aluminium salts and you're good to go. It's called inactivated virus. I guess if you not a particularly wealthy country and have hundreds of millions to vaccinate you go cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 5:58 PM, roobob said: Once again the google expert "cherry picks" articles to give a false impression on what has/is occurring. Nope you are wrong. Travelers back to Australia go into hotel quarantine at their own expense, about AUD $2,000 for the two weeks. Some rich, famous or with 'connections' have been allowed to quarantine at home eg Billionaire Kerry Stokes. If you have facts that dispute the above, please post the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 6:07 PM, forcebwithu said: My new word for the day "Sandgroper". Thanks Force - Sandgroper from Western Aust Croweater from South Aust Gumsucker/ Mexicans from Victoria (south of the Border) Banana Benders from Queensland Taswegians from Tasmania - think Kentucky Gods Own Country - New South Wales 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 hours ago, fforest said: So was everyone nice to Spicy?....I think not.... How about Spicy not being nice to everyone. I think so lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zeb said: Nope you are wrong. Travelers back to Australia go into hotel quarantine at their own expense, about AUD $2,000 for the two weeks. Some rich, famous or with 'connections' have been allowed to quarantine at home eg Billionaire Kerry Stokes. If you have facts that dispute the above, please post the details. Not wrong at all. By the way.... the cost is above $2000...it is $3000. Have a look when WA started charging for the quarantine...even domestic travel into the state....and have a look when NSW did. Also have a look where NSW took the brunt of Aussie travellers back into the country when other states did not. They took WA residents..asked for help from WA... but got nothing...WA could not care even for their own residents. Why not ask the google expert the question...when did WA start charging for quarantine and when did NSW start charging for quarantine.... it seems he likes to miss things like that as it does fit his agenda. cheers Edited January 15, 2021 by roobob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Zeb said: Force - Sandgroper from Western Aust Croweater from South Aust Gumsucker/ Mexicans from Victoria (south of the Border) Banana Benders from Queensland Taswegians from Tasmania - think Kentucky Gods Own Country - New South Wales 😋 You forgot a couple. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, roobob said: Not wrong at all. By the way.... the cost is above $2000...it is $3000. Have a look when WA started charging for the quarantine...even domestic travel into the state....and have a look when NSW did. Also have a look where NSW took the brunt of Aussie travellers back into the country when other states did not. They took WA residents..asked for help from WA... but got nothing...WA could not care even for their own residents. Why not ask the google expert the question...when did WA start charging for quarantine and when did NSW start charging for quarantine.... it seems he likes to miss things like that as it does fit his agenda. cheers One answer... https://thailand-247.com/index.php?/forum/112-au-nz-politics/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, lazarus said: One answer... https://thailand-247.com/index.php?/forum/112-au-nz-politics/ Good point... but the posts are much the same as the ones the Brit BMs are posting on here. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, roobob said: Good point... but the posts are much the same as the ones the Brit BMs are posting on here. cheers So...I guess it's Ok if I start in the with the Trump & Covid shite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Good idea? A Best Western hotel in London is now taking in Covid-19 patients as hospitals run out of beds https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/14/uk/uk-covid-pandemic-hotels-gbr-intl/index.html ...This 107-room inn is now a recovery ward for coronavirus patients, as part of a pilot program to relieve local hospitals that are under enormous strain in the second wave of the pandemic. The hotel's manager Alex Palaghiu said the transition from 4-star hotel to makeshift medical facility was driven by the need to help the country's ailing National Health Service (NHS). "We are very proud to be part of this, so it's a very good feeling to be a part of something," he said, "I believe everyone should get together to support the NHS and save lives." This is the first hotel in the UK to take part in the scheme, but if successful, it could be a model for converting more of the hospitality industry's spare rooms, many of which lie empty amid the country's lockdown... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) ARI = acute respiratory infection Edited January 16, 2021 by lazarus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Washedup Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Lots of my parents friends have now had the vaccination..hopefully itll be my parents turn in next couple of weeks..itll be a massive relief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 hours ago, lazarus said: So...I guess it's Ok if I start in the with the Trump & Covid shite... Again good point....... and there have been some post along those lines already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 hours ago, roobob said: Have a look when WA started charging for the quarantine...even domestic travel into the state....and have a look when NSW did. Also have a look where NSW took the brunt of Aussie travellers back into the country when other states did not. They took WA residents..asked for help from WA... but got nothing...WA could not care even for their own residents. Why not ask the google expert the question...when did WA start charging for quarantine and when did NSW start charging for quarantine.... it seems he likes to miss things like that as it does fit his agenda. cheers The WA Government announced on 10 July 2020, that anyone arriving into WA and directed to enter a State Quarantine Facility (hotel quarantine) on or after the 17 July 2020, would be required to pay for their quarantine period. https://www.wa.gov.au/government/publications/paying-hotel-quarantine-wa-frequently-asked-questions The NSW Government will begin to charge returning international travellers for their hotel quarantine accommodation from 12:01am Saturday, 18 July. https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/nsw-to-charge-returned-international-travellers-for-hotel-quarantine You really should try google yourself occasionally. Might stop you from making a complete idiot of yourself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Boy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Horizondave said: How about Spicy not being nice to everyone. I think so lol Speaking of the devil, where has he gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 hours ago, fygjam said: The WA Government announced on 10 July 2020, that anyone arriving into WA and directed to enter a State Quarantine Facility (hotel quarantine) on or after the 17 July 2020, would be required to pay for their quarantine period. https://www.wa.gov.au/government/publications/paying-hotel-quarantine-wa-frequently-asked-questions The NSW Government will begin to charge returning international travellers for their hotel quarantine accommodation from 12:01am Saturday, 18 July. https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/nsw-to-charge-returned-international-travellers-for-hotel-quarantine You really should try google yourself occasionally. Might stop you from making a complete idiot of yourself. Ha ha ...keep the spin going.... maybe you should actually read and comprehend the links you post. Anyway... enough from me. Are you a born and bred Sandgroper???. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 14 hours ago, lazarus said: One answer... https://thailand-247.com/index.php?/forum/112-au-nz-politics/ If that is the answer then perhaps I now know the reason behind some recent obscure posts. Ridiculous that it has to be brought in where unecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 19 hours ago, coxyhog said: The guy who lives in the house next door to us when we are in Mae Sot has the loudest sneeze I have ever heard. Consider the loudest sneeze you have heard then multiply by a factor of 20 and that may approximate to his condition. If he goes down with Covid he will infect the whole village with one sneeze. I imagine it is some kind of medical condition but I cannot be assed to Google.🤣 I remember saying to Sai "It would not surprise me if he did not have a heart attack sneezing like that!" "Oh, he has had one already." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Glasseye Posted January 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2021 This afternoon I was having a soothing green iced tea, after a long walk, sitting on a bench in a semi isolated inside area of Pantip Plaza (CM). Nobody near me for at least 150 feet. I was enjoying some light reading while taking sips off my tasty beverage. Of course I had my mask off (I am religious about wearing them) so I could drink my tea. As I was reading I coughed once very lightly. At that moment there was a fat ass white guy walking near by (at least 20 feet away) walking with his Thai girlfriend. He suddenly stops and says something to me that I couldn't make out because he was so far away. I looked up at him (he was wearing a mask) and he mumbled something again that I could barely make out.....then I realized what he said ---- "Did you just cough ?" he says to me. It took me a second to actually register that he said something so fucking stupid. He then turns and makes a detour around me like I was some kind of infected zone. My reflexive response once it dawned on me what he was on about was - f**k OFF ! He of course had no feedback and kept on trucking. What a god damn idiot. He was a Yank of course, complete moron. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickrock Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I work in the meat industry and China is a major customer they are now insisting that we all have temperature check recorded for all 800 employees entering and leaving the site We haven't had a community transmission in 6 months , every one has to have a 14 day isolation at a pre booked isolation hotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 11:34 PM, coxyhog said: We've not heard from Spicey for a while.... Well he should be fit if and when... Foreigners in Bali are punished with push-ups for not following coronavirus health protocols https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-18/foreigners-bali-punished-breach-coronavirus-covid-19-protocols/13057028 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickrock Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 3:27 PM, Toy Boy said: Speaking of the devil, where has he gone? He is no longer with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Nickrock said: He is no longer with us No doubt keeping an eye on proceedings though, he is on line all the time....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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