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3 hours ago, tommy dee said:

LOTS OF PEOPLE CARE, THESE PHOTO POSTS ARE AMAZING AND KEEP US UP TO DATE, AND BIG THANKS TO THOSE WHO POST.,

CODE, YOU HAVE ALREADY FORGOTTTEN HOW THE BOARD CARED ENOUGHT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET OUT OF DODGE, BKK, A WEEK OR SO AGO.  AND YOU DID.  

 

PERHAPS BE MINDFUL THIS IS A COMMUNITY NOT JUST YOUR OPINION,

Relax .. I am not attacking anyone or disrespecting others .... aren't individual opinions part of the community ?  Seems to me everyone has one ....

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2 hours ago, forcebwithu said:

Looking at the timelines of the latest Covid outbreak the list is dominated by market places with very few restaurants listed. Based on that I was prepared to agree with the Restaurants Assoc position that restaurants are not Covid hotspots, that was until a quick search found these articles that would indicate the opposite.

CDC: Dining Out Tied to Coronavirus Infection
— Study suggests complete safety not possible with reopened restaurants

Study Confirms Restaurants, Bars Are COVID Infection Hotspots

I think their point was that the latest outbreak is largely due to the trafficking of migrants and illegal casinos. 

Of course there is a risk of further spreading in restaurants and granted there's no such thing as complete safety, but closing restaurants will definitely be the death to many small businesses who won't be able to survive a 2nd lockdown so there's an economical risk to consider too. 

I personally prefer restaurants to stay open and will continue to visit following all necessary protocols and social distancing. 

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1 hour ago, Esco said:

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I personally prefer restaurants to stay open and will continue to visit following all necessary protocols and social distancing. 

I feel the same way and will continue to patronage my favorite restaurants. From what I've seen they're doing an excellent job of sanitizing tables and seating between customers. That, plus social distancing alleviates any concern I might have of catching the China virus from dining at a restaurant. 

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1 hour ago, Esco said:

I think their point was that the latest outbreak is largely due to the trafficking of migrants and illegal casinos. 

Of course there is a risk of further spreading in restaurants and granted there's no such thing as complete safety, but closing restaurants will definitely be the death to many small businesses who won't be able to survive a 2nd lockdown so there's an economical risk to consider too. 

I personally prefer restaurants to stay open and will continue to visit following all necessary protocols and social distancing. 

Illegal casinos? I may need you to explain this to me please.

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32 minutes ago, thegrogmonster said:

Illegal casinos? I may need you to explain this to me please.

The Thais who got infected at the fish market below Bangkok subsequently visited gambling dens i.e. illegal casinos in Rayong and Pattaya. 

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Bit of an update....full article link below

Despite the new surge of the coronavirus, the government plans to show some flexibility on new restrictions to be announced on Monday after Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha signs the directive as the CCSA director.

CCSA spokesman Taweesilp Visanuyothin said the draft regulations to be forwarded to the prime minister on Monday will not ban customers from eating in restaurants, provided the establishments strictly follow protocol. Shopping centres will maintain normal hours and some activities -- such as interprovincial travel from at-risk provinces -- will be allowed, he added.

315 new Covid-19 cases recorded Sunday (bangkokpost.com)

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I believe I am correct in stating that there are many examples of existing Bars that sell a range of food but are licenced as a bar and not a restaurant.

Presumably, if still open then they are in breach of the current regulations?

 

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Well today I saw Kiss food without a single customer when I was walking by ....First time I have ever seen the place with ZERO customers since as long as I have been in Pattaya.... 

It looks like that Indian restaurant that was at the end of the arcade near Kiss has gone to the Indian restaurants in the sky....

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1 hour ago, roobob said:

Bit of an update....full article link below

Despite the new surge of the coronavirus, the government plans to show some flexibility on new restrictions to be announced on Monday after Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha signs the directive as the CCSA director.

CCSA spokesman Taweesilp Visanuyothin said the draft regulations to be forwarded to the prime minister on Monday will not ban customers from eating in restaurants, provided the establishments strictly follow protocol. Shopping centres will maintain normal hours and some activities -- such as interprovincial travel from at-risk provinces -- will be allowed, he added.

315 new Covid-19 cases recorded Sunday (bangkokpost.com)

Really hope it stays this way. 

We were down the beach by Na Jomtien today and enjoyed a few drinks and a bite to eat in a restaurant on a beautiful sunny afternoon. 

Would hate to see such places having to close while the risk of spreading the virus is minimal and they won't be able to compensate through delivery like others might.  

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5 hours ago, Esco said:

I think their point was that the latest outbreak is largely due to the trafficking of migrants and illegal casinos. 

Of course there is a risk of further spreading in restaurants and granted there's no such thing as complete safety, but closing restaurants will definitely be the death to many small businesses who won't be able to survive a 2nd lockdown so there's an economical risk to consider too. 

I personally prefer restaurants to stay open and will continue to visit following all necessary protocols and social distancing. 

Are restaurants allowed to open with outdoor seating.  Issue in UK right now is nobody wants to sit outside and freeze their crown jewels off but Thailand is lovely at night so wouldn't outdoor service be acceptable with distancing etc.

Of course there is still a chance of the virus being caught in any outdoor situation but is it a blanket coverage of restaurants both indoor and outdoor.

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1 minute ago, Horizondave said:

Are restaurants allowed to open with outdoor seating.  Issue in UK right now is nobody wants to sit outside and freeze their crown jewels off but Thailand is lovely at night so wouldn't outdoor service be acceptable with distancing etc.

Of course there is still a chance of the virus being caught in any outdoor situation but is it a blanket coverage of restaurants both indoor and outdoor.

Yes outdoor as well as indoor currently. I prefer to stay outdoors for obvious reasons. 

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Latest announcement on the decree to be in effect as of tomorrow; no more alcohol to be served by restaurants but they may remain open for dine-in. 

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The Prime Minister issued the regulations of the Emergency Decree No. 16, using 8 measures to control COVID-19, especially in the control area of the highest 28 provinces, prohibiting the use of buildings at risk of spreading disease.  Prohibit the consumption of alcohol in the restaurant  And ask for private cooperation for employees to work at home, effective tomorrow (4 Jan)

 Today (3 Jan 2021) Government Gazette website  Published the requirements issued under Section 9 of the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergency Situations, B.E. 2548, No. 16, with details that

 As announced the state of emergency in all areas throughout the Kingdom from January 26, 2020 and later extended the period of enforcement of the emergency declaration for the 8th time to 15 m.  C. 2021

 The new outbreak of COVID-19 has expanded the spread of the disease into many areas.  And the number of new confirmed cases of confirmed cases of domestic infection is increasing each day.  In addition, there is a person's journey from the situation area designated as the highest controlled area  Most of which still do not appear symptoms of the disease.  Causing germs to spread in a clump

 In addition, the competent official working to control the disease found that  Some infected people concealed their travel information, delaying the investigation process and creating a barrier to other related operations, resulting in a new wave of outbreaks.

 It is imperative the government to define and enforce measures to resolve and stop the emergency.  By virtue of Section 9 of the Emergency Decree on Public Administration in Emergencies B.E. 2548 and Section 11 of the State Administration Regulations Act B.E. 2534, the Prime Minister therefore issues the requirements and practices to all government agencies as follows:

 1. Building Ban  Or places at risk of transmission of disease  The use of buildings or locations of all types of schools and educational institutions located in the designated location area is the highest controlled area.  To organize classes, examinations, workshops, or any high-participation activity.  Except in the following cases

 (1) It is a teaching and learning  Or activities for long distance communication  Or by electronic means

 (2) It is the use of a building or a place to provide assistance, aid, fostering or support of a person.

 (3) is the organization of official activities  Or activities for public benefit  With permission from the Governor of Bangkok  Or the governor

 (4) Being a small school or educational institution with the number of students not exceeding 120 people including the school, or being a border patrol police school.

 2. Prohibition of activities that risk transmission of disease.  It is forbidden to organize activities in the situation area designated as the most controlled area.  It has a large number of participants and has easy contact with each other such as meetings, seminars, catering, food distribution.  Or other things, unless it is performed by a competent official  Or authorized by the competent official  Or an activity in an area designated as a quarantine facility with public health measures

 For the Governor of Bangkok  With recommendations of the Bangkok Communicable Disease Committee  Or the governor  With recommendation of the Provincial Communicable Disease Committee  To determine the rules for consideration of permission of the competent official to be suitable for the situation in each area.

 3. Closing of locations at risk of transmission of disease.  For the Governor of Bangkok  Or the governor  By virtue of the law on communicable diseases to consider ordering the closure of the place of service  Establishments similar to service establishments, pubs, karaoke bars located in the situation designated as the highest regulated area.

 4. Operating Conditions  In the situation area designated as the most controlled area for the place, business or activity  The following can be operated under the conditions, time and organization of various regulations.

 (1) Food distribution  Or drinks  To organize access to the service  The number of people sitting in the store  The establishment of the site according to the practice and preventive measures  It may be the nature of bringing back for consumption elsewhere.  By allowing the COVID-19 Situation Management Center  Ministry of Interior and the Emergency Operations Center for Medicine and Public Health  Jointly consider, assess, formulate and supervise the implementation of the aforementioned practices and measures of each provincial area

 (2) sale of liquor  For shops, buildings or places that sell liquor  The consumption of liquor and alcoholic beverages is prohibited in the store.

 (3) Department Store, Shopping Center, Community Mall  Exhibition center, convention center or exhibition venue  Convenience store  Supermarket  Or other similar establishments  To be opened at the normal time of that place under strict preventive measures prescribed by the government.

 5. Measures appropriate to the situation in the area.  To prevent, suppress, and inhibit the transmission of disease according to the situation of each area situation.  Governor of Bangkok  Or the governor  May consider taking action under the Communicable Disease Act to order the closure, limit or prohibition the operation of the area, place or vehicle, or order the suspension of other activities in the area of responsibility which is at risk of disease outbreak in addition to  Configurable  By implementing measures  Or guidelines according to the requirements (No. 15)

 6. Screening for cross-provincial travel  The competent official shall inspect and screen the traveling by using the transport routes across the provincial area.  In particular, the travel of the person from the situation area designated as the highest control area,  B.E.  By considering the suitability of each area  And must not cause undue trouble to the public

 People shall refrain from or postpone their journey across the provincial area, unless there is a necessity that shows reasons and evidence to the competent official.  Including being screened and required to comply with governmental disease prevention measures  This may make it inconvenient to travel and make the trip longer than usual.

 7. Ask for cooperation for private entrepreneurs to consider operating patterns during this period.  This could be off-site work or alternating days, or time-lapse.  To reduce the number of operators and the amount of travel  Which is a measure to reduce the risk of infection

 8. The Ad Hoc Committee shall consider loosening the enforcement of measures to prevent and stop the spread of Coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19) to review, screen, and propose to the Prime Minister.  To consider allowing relaxation  Or tighten measures applicable to additional places, businesses or activities to suit the situation as deemed appropriate

 Effective from 4 January 2021 at 6:00 AM onwards.

 

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4 hours ago, Esco said:

The Thais who got infected at the fish market below Bangkok subsequently visited gambling dens i.e. illegal casinos in Rayong and Pattaya. 

They gambled with fish ??

Keep up Namps ....

Seriously folks these gambling dens are everywhere from lush palaces to back street houses and ones I have visited (for research purposes of course) have been tightly packed. 

Anyway up in the Moo Baan our outdoor restaurant up Isaan way is still open busy and serving food and beer ...... keeping the music quiet for now however.

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It is now official. The 28 following provinces will be regarded as the "highest control areas" from Monday 4th January onwards:
1. Bangkok  
2. Kanchanaburi
3. Chanthaburi
4. Chachoengsao
5. Chumphon
6. Chonburi
7. Trat
8. Tak
9. Nakhon Nayok
10. Nakhon Pathom
11. Nonthaburi
12. Pathum Thani
13. Prachuap Khiri Khan 
14. Prachinburi 
15. Ayutthaya
16. Phetchaburi
17. Ratchaburi
18. Ranong
19. Rayong
20. Lopburi
21. Singburi
22. Samut Prakan
23. Samut Songkhram
24. Samut Sakhon 
25.  Suphanburi
27. Saraburi  
28. Ang Thong

New restrictions and rules have just been published in the Royal Gazette for the 28 provinces. There’s no ban on inter-provincial travel but there is a request for it to be avoided in the red zones. People are encouraged to work from home or reduce the number of people in the workplace.

There is no curfew or ban on eating in restaurants. However, the power is given to provincial governors to close any risky places and to consider their own measures for each area in their province. So we could be seeing new orders coming out soon for each province. 

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I cant believe Craft Cottage......I thought for sure that place was down for the count a few times already this past year....They seem to keep raising from the dead....I can't imagine craft beers are a good seller these days.. 

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2 hours ago, fforest said:

I cant believe Craft Cottage......I thought for sure that place was down for the count a few times already this past year....They seem to keep raising from the dead....I can't imagine craft beers are a good seller these days.. 

The thing with craft cottage was something like, it's the son of the owners of a few of the units in that end of L K

Metro,hence I wouldn't imagine not too many overheads......

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1 hour ago, Yessongs said:

@Blue Streak Great pictures buddy, well done.

Wifey tells me that in "Minburi" where we live, in all of her social media sights and all of the neighbors in our area that she keeps in contact with,  there have been no reported positive tests. Seems suspicious to me! 

I would imagine no one wants anyone to know if someone has "it"...

...or someone will be shunned by everyone.

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