coxyhog Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Denver - Honolulu,returned & landed safely in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pillow Biter Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Poor sob who had that window seat 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 52 minutes ago, Pillow Biter said: Poor sob who had that window seat 😅 I’m no aviation expert, but last Saturday flying into Montreal l think we had a near catastrophe for over speeding on the A220. We had started our descent from 39,000, flight was my fastest ever on that route, and I glanced at the screen, seeing we were going 670mph, when the Max I had seen was 600ish. Got a seatbelt warning, and was bloody scared for a few seconds, felt different than turbulence, like the brakes were on but with Max throttle. He descended quite a bit before the speed dropped, then all good. Then I’m all set to land, he continued East 20 miles, which shocked me with airports being empty. Maybe wanted to be back into a headwind? Anyway I’ve not been so nervous flying the last decade or so, but that event got the heart racing. 3:37 YYC YUL, with 40 miles of circling around, is an insane time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 The speed of an aircraft is relative to the ambient air not distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, coxyhog said: The speed of an aircraft is relative to the ambient air not distance. True, but often ground speed is also shown to passengers, nice with a strong tail wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Freee!! said: True, but often ground speed is also shown to passengers, nice with a strong tail wind. True but that gets the pax thinking they're going too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Boeing recommend suspending operations of all 777s fitted with P&W 4000-112 engines. "While [an] investigation is ongoing, we recommended suspending operations of the 69 in-service and 59 in-storage 777 aircraft powered by Pratt & Whitney 4000-112 engines," the company said in a statement. ............................................................ The agency (FAA) has ordered extra inspections of Boeing 777 jets fitted with the Pratt & Whitney 4000 engine following the incident. "We reviewed all available safety data following [Saturday's] incident," said FAA administrator Steve Dickson in a statement. "Based on the initial information, we concluded that the inspection interval should be stepped up for the hollow fan blades that are unique to this model of engine, used solely on Boeing 777 airplanes." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Fan blade breaks. Broken blade exits through front of engine slicing through nose ring. Nose ring separated from cowling. Rest of cowling falls off. Blade and a half missing. Edited February 23, 2021 by fygjam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappo Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 looks like the blade tore a hole in the fuselage as well (look under wing). That must have been a bum clenching decent! good work by the crew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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boydeste Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, coxyhog said: Duck tape is not what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, boydeste said: Duck tape is not what it used to be. True, they used to use duct tape, taping a duck isn't much use. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Freee!! said: True, they used to use duct tape, taping a duck isn't much use. I have always known it as Duck tape, so you got me thnking. This is what I discovered :- Why do they call duck tape duct tape? ''Duct tape was first invented by a female factory worker during World War II. It was originally called 'duck' tape because it was made out of a cotton duck fabric and it repelled water like a duck's back. Duck Brand duct tapes are made with three main components: rubber adhesive, cloth, and film backing'' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, boydeste said: I have always known it as Duck tape, so you got me thnking. This is what I discovered :- Why do they call duck tape duct tape? ''Duct tape was first invented by a female factory worker during World War II. It was originally called 'duck' tape because it was made out of a cotton duck fabric and it repelled water like a duck's back. Duck Brand duct tapes are made with three main components: rubber adhesive, cloth, and film backing'' Nice one, I have different sources, let's agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Freee!! said: Nice one, I have different sources, let's agree to disagree. I wasn't worried about trying to defend my corner, it wouldn't be the first time I had called something different to the norm during my 40 years of engineering. The youngsters under me used to call it gaffer tape, I just assumed that was because it was what I often used for temporary repairs. 🤣 Edited February 23, 2021 by boydeste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, boydeste said: I wasn't worried about trying to defend my corner, it wouldn't be the first time I had called something different to the norm during my 40 years of engineering. I wasn't worried either, I just looked it up before posting (the first one) as English isn't my mother tongue. EDIT: About languages, what happened to the flags? Edited February 23, 2021 by Freee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Freee!! said: I wasn't worried either, I just looked it up before posting (the first one) as English isn't my mother tongue. EDIT: About languages, what happened to the flags? Maybe a plug in that hasn't been reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 As it's an aircraft issue I think we should use an aircraft term. Bodge Tape. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, coxyhog said: As it's an aircraft issue I think we should use an aircraft term. Bodge Tape. Yup, that's definitely what we used it for, bodge it until we could afford the down time for a proper repair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) On 2/22/2021 at 6:53 PM, bob lt said: Boeing recommend suspending operations of all 777s fitted with P&W 4000-112 engines. "While [an] investigation is ongoing, we recommended suspending operations of the 69 in-service and 59 in-storage 777 aircraft powered by Pratt & Whitney 4000-112 engines," the company said in a statement. ............................................................ The agency (FAA) has ordered extra inspections of Boeing 777 jets fitted with the Pratt & Whitney 4000 engine following the incident. "We reviewed all available safety data following [Saturday's] incident," said FAA administrator Steve Dickson in a statement. "Based on the initial information, we concluded that the inspection interval should be stepped up for the hollow fan blades that are unique to this model of engine, used solely on Boeing 777 airplanes." I just happened to be watching a U-Tube video yesterday of this problem happening before with Pratt & Whitney engines on the earliest version of the Boeing 777. The Airline concerned (cannot remember which one) were instructed to carry out ultrasonic(?) tests on all their 777 aircraft engines but it was only discovered that they never did so when exactly the same problem happened again. Both aircraft survived without loss of life with the flight crew in my opinion doing a brilliant job in getting the aircraft back on the ground. That did not stop the Captain in one of the incidents from being criticized in the subsequent action report for taking just 44 seconds to turn the remaining engine off after he had he had initiated the evacuation procedures. Edited February 24, 2021 by Jambo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 Latest update.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaksey Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 The GE engines on the 777-200 don't have a great history either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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