Tommaso_Turek Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 If so.. this is my input as a Rtd Airline Check Capt, East African Airways, with multiple sightings. Since 1985 I have studied many cases, especially this one. Millions of open-minded today have FULL DUSCLOSURE from this data. Facts. Swiss Billy Meier of theyfly dot com, has had over 1700 face to face chats, since 1943 with a group of human ets, here on a now completed 35,000 years mission. They have left us with 45,000 pages of data, some still not translated from German. The contacts were conducted in German, that these human ets from the Taurus Const. beyond Star Taygeta, claim was once one of their former languages. Before you scream fraud, note that USAF Intel Lt. Col. W. Stevens and his team failed to debunk Meier after years of research. The investigation is here. ''YouTube. Contact: Billy Meier Documentary (1982)''. For close up UFO/IFO photos taken from only Meters away(!), with a Ricoh camera on Kodak film, here's that analysis by a Maths. Prof. based mainly on reflections of trees and buildings in the 3 rows of highly polished spheres on a high speed et craft landing in Meier's yard for a chat and photo shoot. This ship was on loan from these ets much higher tech friends in our Twin Dal Universe. It gets here in a millionth of a second, over a 500 light years distance. The Dal scientists have discovered channels within a Galaxy where time and space don't exist and designed craft to enter these channels at low speed, and immediately arrive at their destinations. Their own craft take 7 hours, accelerating to light speed, making the 'jump' then slowing. Search. ''Analysis of The Wedding Cake UFO by Rhal Zahi'. Once you get through that data, and would like to move ahead.. here's a lengthy chat between Meier and the et in charge of their Planet, (beyond Star Taygeta), AND our sector.. On his site, search.. ''Conact251''. You may ask why Meier. Here's his initial 'indoctrination' at age 6 by a very old, near 1000 years old human et, (Sfaath). in charge of this mission, and his Planet Erra. Sfaath died a few years later, after handing the Mission over to Asket, a female human et from the Dal Universe. Search. .''A Billy Meier Wiki. The Future of Mankind. Sfaath explanations''. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 @fforest you anything to add here, perchance ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Not sure if they are members?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Think I've met some of them up in Isaan 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroni Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I'll bite @Tommaso_Turek, what is ets? extra-terrestrial something? How about Sfaath? But mostly, what drugs are you on and where can I get some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Quote "Some of Meier's photos are claimed by him to show prehistoric Earth scenes, extraterrestrials, and celestial objects from an alleged non-Earthly vantage point. Meier's claims are widely characterized as fraudulent by scientists, skeptics, and most ufologists, who say that his photographs and films are hoaxes. In 1997, Meier's ex-wife, Kalliope, told interviewers that his photos were of spaceship models he crafted with items like trash can lids, carpet tacks and other household objects, and that the stories he told of his adventures with the aliens were similarly fictitious. She also said that photos of purported extraterrestrial women "Asket" and "Nera" were really photos of Michelle DellaFave and Susan Lund, members of the singing and dancing troupe The Golddiggers. It was later confirmed that the women in the photographs were members of The Golddiggers performing on The Dean Martin Show." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) UFOs are a waste of time.....This subject leads nowhere..... Are UFOs real?........I would say the vast majority of them are man made.. It is possible that some UFOs come from other places than earth, but so what if they do......They cant be much worse than the nuts running this funny farm called earth.... Edited June 27, 2021 by fforest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 For the doubters.. all so far.. here's the Roswell alien autopsy plus the Russian one! The Roswell autopsy movie was genuine. The B&W Kodak film was date-stamped with a triangle and square, denoting no longer made after 1953. The raw film would have deteriorated to allow a recent fake to be made. The only reason I can see why just this one Roswell Autopsy Film hasn't been deleted from the net, is the 2 Brit authors claimed it was a hoax, using animal parts.. Yet, we see a very naked, et lady being dissected, with a vagina hardly resembling a cow's. ''YouTube. The Alien autopsy. Spyros -Spiz''. Back engineered from the Roswell UFO crash, by 3 Bell Labs engineers, John Bardeen, Walter Brattain and William Shockley was the transistor, that was 200 years ahead of its time, except in theory. These 3 had, right up to that time ONLY been working on minimizing the size of the vacuum tube, to keep up with the Soviets. Also back engineered were the fiber optics and the microprocessor. Too advanced to back-engineer was some communications equipment. Of course the Russians, not to be left behind on alien autopsies, also have one. There's was in 1969, but with a much less a humanoid, more a Grey? 'YouTube. Gruesome Vintage Footage Shows Russian Alien Autopsy'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 If you would like to know more about alien abductions and implants.. try this... And BTW, if you believe your ancestors were Great Apes in Tanganyika 4M years ago and that we are alone.. that's entirely your business. Search. .''Un-X Magazine. The Smoking Gun. Pioneering alien implant researcher and surgeon, Dr. Roger Leir shares his biggest cases and never-before-seen photos of his work''. and that video,, ''YouTube. Is Extraterrestrial Material Inside People Proof They Were Abducted? |UFOs The Lost Evidence'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Bazle said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier MUFON, the top UFO Org whose main function seems to be deny, deny, deny. and Wiki, grudgingly accept the analysis by a maths prof. of the Wedding Cake UFO.. to be real. Have a read, and come back with your opinion,, not that of a ufologist nor scientist. ''Analysis of The Wedding Cake UFO by Rhal Zahi''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Tommaso_Turek said: For the doubters.. all so far.. here's the Roswell alien autopsy plus the Russian one! The Roswell autopsy movie was genuine. The B&W Kodak film was date-stamped with a triangle and square, denoting no longer made after 1953. The raw film would have deteriorated to allow a recent fake to be made. The only reason I can see why just this one Roswell Autopsy Film hasn't been deleted from the net, is the 2 Brit authors claimed it was a hoax, using animal parts.. Yet, we see a very naked, et lady being dissected, with a vagina hardly resembling a cow's. ''YouTube. The Alien autopsy. Spyros -Spiz''. Back engineered from the Roswell UFO crash, by 3 Bell Labs engineers, John Bardeen, Walter Brattain and William Shockley was the transistor, that was 200 years ahead of its time, except in theory. These 3 had, right up to that time ONLY been working on minimizing the size of the vacuum tube, to keep up with the Soviets. Also back engineered were the fiber optics and the microprocessor. Too advanced to back-engineer was some communications equipment. Of course the Russians, not to be left behind on alien autopsies, also have one. There's was in 1969, but with a much less a humanoid, more a Grey? 'YouTube. Gruesome Vintage Footage Shows Russian Alien Autopsy'' Interesting how the "aliens" always crash their spacecrafts in the US or Russia. Why not Liechtenstein or even New Zealand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, fygjam said: Interesting how the "aliens" always crash their spacecrafts in the US or Russia. Why not Liechtenstein or even New Zealand? Maybe more nukes there and there to observe, eh? Open.. CNN. Larry King. (Several vids). ''UFOs shut down missile silos in US, UK and USSR'' (At UK's Rendleshem missile site, the ufo landed.. and took off again. google that). Et has told us, in theyfly.com,that they'll not allow any nuke war, as it would also affect their sector in the Taurus Const. 400 light years distant. This was demoed when a suspicious military sat. (mini nuke)? on a SpaceX rocket on the pad was zapped by a ufo. I dunno if it was the same bunch that warned. Search.. ''YouTube. SpaceX UFO Explosion-Slow Motion''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tommaso_Turek said: Maybe more nukes there and there to observe, eh? Open.. CNN. Larry King. (Several vids). ''UFOs shut down missile silos in US, UK and USSR'' (At UK's Rendleshem missile site, the ufo landed.. and took off again. google that). Et has told us, in theyfly.com,that they'll not allow any nuke war, as it would also affect their sector in the Taurus Const. 400 light years distant. This was demoed when a suspicious military sat. (mini nuke)? on a SpaceX rocket on the pad was zapped by a ufo. I dunno if it was the same bunch that warned. Search.. ''YouTube. SpaceX UFO Explosion-Slow Motion''. China, France, Israel, Pakistan, India and N. Korea all got nukes but no aliens (not counting Kim Jong-un). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 hours ago, fygjam said: China, France, Israel, Pakistan, India and N. Korea all got nukes but no aliens (not counting Kim Jong-un). Maybe they found no intention to launch, eh? Mind you.. the SpaceX that was zapped, was an Israeli military satellite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommaso_Turek Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 Some who need more proof of et, and from very nearby, should ask.. how did we get our Moon, 4 million years ago. It is in a totally artificial orbit and position, that need constant powered adjustments to maintain, due Earths gravity. We can only guess, that's most probably done internally.. maybe now on auto, maybe not? Keeping in mind that the moon is a hollowed-out or constructed Planet-sized satellite, with a mainly pure titanium crust, (US astronauts drills broke when sampling). Clue.. it's not by the Chinese nor Russians! For a fuller story, search here. . 'YouTube. The Moon is Not Real. David Icke. (NO Music)'' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 So a spacecraft can travel vast interstellar distances, defy the laws of physics as we understand them ,get to earth undetected then manage to crash the minute they get here?. Ok. the moon is not powered by anything, it’s in something called an orbit, which, shockingly is the same premise every other moon in our solar system manages to exist by. there are some very well researched theories as to how the moon was formed and how it came to be a satellite of earth, all more plausible than with some alien bloke driving it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Tommaso_Turek said: Maybe they found no intention to launch, eh? Mind you.. the SpaceX that was zapped, was an Israeli military satellite. Prove it. times, date stamps, physical evidence and irrefutable proof , because posting this kind of bullshit is not only annoying, it effects your credibility here and compromises the integrity of the forum itself. none of it has any proof, it is all conjecture and David Icke is a total idiot who , to date has proven none of his claims, merely offered alternative conspiracy based theories into everyday events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Butch said: Prove it. times, date stamps, physical evidence and irrefutable proof , because posting this kind of bullshit is not only annoying, it effects your credibility here and compromises the integrity of the forum itself. none of it has any proof, it is all conjecture and David Icke is a total idiot who , to date has proven none of his claims, merely offered alternative conspiracy based theories into everyday events. I can't believe I'm bothering to post in this lunatic topic, but as for David Icke, his being a total idiot could be well planned as he's making quite a chunk of change from his conspiracy rants. Same could probably said for the other lunatic whack jobs out there. As part of Press Gazette’s Fight the Infodemic campaign we today publish an investigation which focuses on Icke and London Real and reveals: Youtube was still running adverts for Icke’s documentaries weeks after it chose to delete his account to protect users from potentially harmful Covid-19 misinformation Facebook has run adverts for both Icke and London Real, which says it has paid the platform nearly £2m in fees over the last three years Icke and London Real both enjoyed major spikes in their web traffic in April, with social media platforms driving millions to clicks to the sites this year Research showing that Icke and London Real’s social media followers could be worth more than $40m a year to Facebook and Youtube. https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/cash-for-conspiracies-how-david-icke-alternative-media-and-tech-giants-make-money-from-misinformation/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Tommaso_Turek said: Some who need more proof of et, and from very nearby, should ask.. how did we get our Moon, 4 million years ago. It is in a totally artificial orbit and position, that need constant powered adjustments to maintain, due Earths gravity. We can only guess, that's most probably done internally.. maybe now on auto, maybe not? Keeping in mind that the moon is a hollowed-out or constructed Planet-sized satellite, with a mainly pure titanium crust, (US astronauts drills broke when sampling). Clue.. it's not by the Chinese nor Russians! For a fuller story, search here. . 'YouTube. The Moon is Not Real. David Icke. (NO Music)'' That's crap. The moon is made of cheese and inhabited by Amazon women. I've seen the documentary. Edited June 28, 2021 by fygjam 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Tommaso_Turek said: Some who need more proof of et, and from very nearby, should ask.. how did we get our Moon, 4 million years ago. It is in a totally artificial orbit and position, that need constant powered adjustments to maintain, due Earths gravity. We can only guess, that's most probably done internally.. maybe now on auto, maybe not? Keeping in mind that the moon is a hollowed-out or constructed Planet-sized satellite, with a mainly pure titanium crust, (US astronauts drills broke when sampling). Clue.. it's not by the Chinese nor Russians! For a fuller story, search here. . 'YouTube. The Moon is Not Real. David Icke. (NO Music)'' My money's on IKEA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, forcebwithu said: I can't believe I'm bothering to post in this lunatic topic, but as for David Icke, his being a total idiot could be well planned as he's making quite a chunk of change from his conspiracy rants. Same could probably said for the other lunatic whack jobs out there. As part of Press Gazette’s Fight the Infodemic campaign we today publish an investigation which focuses on Icke and London Real and reveals: Youtube was still running adverts for Icke’s documentaries weeks after it chose to delete his account to protect users from potentially harmful Covid-19 misinformation Facebook has run adverts for both Icke and London Real, which says it has paid the platform nearly £2m in fees over the last three years Icke and London Real both enjoyed major spikes in their web traffic in April, with social media platforms driving millions to clicks to the sites this year Research showing that Icke and London Real’s social media followers could be worth more than $40m a year to Facebook and Youtube. https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/cash-for-conspiracies-how-david-icke-alternative-media-and-tech-giants-make-money-from-misinformation/ At least give David Icke a slight chance before you trash him.... https://davidicke.com/2021/06/18/whats-going-on-this-is-going-on-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/ I am not a fanboy but he makes more sense than you might think... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, fforest said: At least give David Icke a slight chance before you trash him.... https://davidicke.com/2021/06/18/whats-going-on-this-is-going-on-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/ I am not a fanboy but he makes more sense than you might think... David Icke is that the same guy who claims that the world is controlled by giant green lizards posing as humans, right? 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said: David Icke is that the same guy who claims that the world is controlled by giant green lizards posing as humans, right? 😀 Makes a good living out of fleecing the gullible and intellectually challenged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nightcrawler said: David Icke is that the same guy who claims that the world is controlled by giant green lizards posing as humans, right? 😀 I will listen to just about anyone for 5 minutes.....Then I can say I Listened and that guy was a real dumb ass, with confidence...If I think so.... Edited June 28, 2021 by fforest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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