fforest Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Lets see what google says about Polyester...... Google the words Polyester and Health and see for yourself the results.... I was in need of a few new shirts.....And I am not a fan of long long mall walks and the expensive prices to look for shits... So I thought Hey I will just buy some shirts on Lazada or Shopee.....Simple right? WRONG..... I only have 2 requirements for a shirt .....One....It needs to be made out of cotton (not bloody hot and uncomfortable Polyester) and...Two....The shirt needs to have a nice looking print on it kind of like a Hawaii shirt, but without that cheesy dumb Hawaii look.... Simple right? Nope.... I looked and looked and looked for a very long time on Lazada and Shopee....And Bloody Hell almost every last Mens shirt they sell out of 1,000s and maybe 10s of thousands is made out of Bloody Polyester........I could not F....ing believe it....Must be about 95% Polyester.... Sure there were a few solid color polo looking Mens shits made out of cotton...But thats not the kind of shirt I wanted.... I did finally find one .....Yes thats right one cotton shirt after looking for ages that fit the bill...But thats it........ Its a conspiracy I tell you.....To force people into wearing Polyester by giving then no other choice.....And slowly give people health problems over time... Ihttps://saddlebackleather.com/polyester-is-dangerous-and-bad-for-your-health/ Polyester is hated by everybody except for cheap clothing and bedding manufacturers and the people who peddle it. It is the filler to cheap fabric as sawdust is to cheap dog food, corn syrup is to cheap honey Skin exposure to Polyester can cause rashes, itching, redness, eczema, dermatitis, blistering or make existing skin problems worse for those with sensitive skin, up to 3 days later. Heat releases Polyester chemicals like Antimony oxide Sb2O3, which is used to make Polyester and is a known carcinogen. With body heat, it is partially dissolved with sweat and absorbed by the skin. It can cause heart, liver, kidney and skin ailments. When the Polyester gasses are inhaled, Formaldehyde and other Perfluorochemicals (PFCs) can cause lung problems and headaches. Etc Etc Etc.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqualung Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I've been wearing polyester for years and there is feck all wrong with me! https://images.app.goo.gl/7DY3a8izTGcTUWPr6 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Sounds like a conspiracy to me! Theoretically anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 52 minutes ago, Aqualung said: I've been wearing polyester for years and there is feck all wrong with me! https://images.app.goo.gl/7DY3a8izTGcTUWPr6 Rhetorical surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 It takes 10,000 liters of water to produce 1 kilo of cotton, meaning it takes about 2,700 liters to make 1 cotton t-shirt. “The water consumed to grow India’s cotton exports in 2013 would be enough to supply 85% of the country’s 1.24 billion people with 100 litres of water every day for a year. Meanwhile, more than 100 million people in India do not have access to safe water”. Have you heard about the Aral Sea? Once the 4th largest lake in the world, but now virtually gone - mainly because of cotton cultivation. It has been called one of the planet's worst environmental disasters by the UN. Instead of the lake, 43 million tons of pesticide-laden dust is blown into the air every year. The Aral Sea region suffers from the highest rates of throat cancer in the world - representing 80 percent of the cases of cancer. Cotton is the crop most heavily sprayed with chemicals in the world. Hazardous pesticides commonly used for cotton production are often found in nearby water resources. Cotton cultivation causes soil degradation and erosion as well as loss of forest area and other habitat. The use of child labor and slavery is common in the industry. Cotton production is responsible for the emission of 220 million tons of CO2 annually. Cotton’s most prominent environmental impacts result from the use of agrochemicals (especially pesticides), the consumption of water, and the conversion of habitat to agricultural use. Diversion of water and its pollution by cotton growing has had severe impacts on major ecosystems such as the Aral Sea in Central Asia, the Indus Delta in Pakistan and the Murray Darling River in Australia. Apart from that, it's probably ok. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 May I recommend you take a look at linen? Just like cotton it is a natural, vegetable fiber, suitable for warm weather/environments. I've also heard positive things about bamboo, but I don't have any personal experience with that material. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 14 minutes ago, fygjam said: It takes 10,000 liters of water to produce 1 kilo of cotton, meaning it takes about 2,700 liters to make 1 cotton t-shirt. “The water consumed to grow India’s cotton exports in 2013 would be enough to supply 85% of the country’s 1.24 billion people with 100 litres of water every day for a year. Meanwhile, more than 100 million people in India do not have access to safe water”. Have you heard about the Aral Sea? Once the 4th largest lake in the world, but now virtually gone - mainly because of cotton cultivation. It has been called one of the planet's worst environmental disasters by the UN. Instead of the lake, 43 million tons of pesticide-laden dust is blown into the air every year. The Aral Sea region suffers from the highest rates of throat cancer in the world - representing 80 percent of the cases of cancer. Cotton is the crop most heavily sprayed with chemicals in the world. Hazardous pesticides commonly used for cotton production are often found in nearby water resources. Cotton cultivation causes soil degradation and erosion as well as loss of forest area and other habitat. The use of child labor and slavery is common in the industry. Cotton production is responsible for the emission of 220 million tons of CO2 annually. Cotton’s most prominent environmental impacts result from the use of agrochemicals (especially pesticides), the consumption of water, and the conversion of habitat to agricultural use. Diversion of water and its pollution by cotton growing has had severe impacts on major ecosystems such as the Aral Sea in Central Asia, the Indus Delta in Pakistan and the Murray Darling River in Australia. Apart from that, it's probably ok. Yes cotton is not the best plant to make clothing out of.....The best would be hemp or linen......These plants can and do make much better and more healthy clothing...And they are good for the environment.........But the clothing choices made from hemp is minuscule compared to even cottons small selection.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Freee!! said: May I recommend you take a look at linen? Just like cotton it is a natural, vegetable fiber, suitable for warm weather/environments. I've also heard positive things about bamboo, but I don't have any personal experience with that material. Yes I love linen.....Its very nice material.....I have one linen shirt....I would buy lots more but linen shirts are very hard to find in Asia....Unless your going for the business man on his way to the office look... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 All I'm willing to say is that when rugby shirts were pure cotton it was a beautiful running game played by well hard bastards that could take a good studding on a Sunday morning playing on a ploughed field then go to the pub afterwards and shake hands and share a beer or two ................................ Then they introduced a polyester mix into the shirts ... Need I say more ...?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I was expecting to see "correct size" in your list of requirements as well. I think the reason you're not finding a cotton shirt that meets the requirement of "nice looking print" is printing on cotton uses silk screening, whereas shirts with polyester content can use the much cheaper sublimation process for printing. I have a couple of hash shirts that have a mixture of cotton and polyester that come very close to the feel of an all cotton shirt, but still have a great looking print. Here's one example. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBC Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 53 minutes ago, fforest said: Yes I love linen.....Its very nice material.....I have one linen shirt....I would buy lots more but linen shirts are very hard to find in Asia....Unless your going for the business man on his way to the office look... Go to most any tailors shop in Pattaya and they will have a good selection of linen. They will make made-to-measure shirts of whatever style you require for very little money. Admittedly they will will not have the Hawaiian style pattern but for sure they will be comfortable to wear in the hot climate. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, forcebwithu said: I was expecting to see "correct size" in your list of requirements as well. I think the reason you're not finding a cotton shirt that meets the requirement of "nice looking print" is printing on cotton uses silk screening, whereas shirts with polyester content can use the much cheaper sublimation process for printing. I have a couple of hash shirts that have a mixture of cotton and polyester that come very close to the feel of an all cotton shirt, but still have a great looking print. Here's one example. Well getting the correct clothing size from Lazada or Shopee is kind of its own subject...But in a nutshell, I dont believe any sellers sizing....(shoes maybe)... What I do , I just buy one of some clothing a first ...Any Where from 2X to 5X as a test... And depending on how the first purchase fits....I almost always know which XXXXX size I need, for a bigger purchase.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stillearly Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 If only Pattaya had some tailor shops , you could choose your fabric and have the shirts made to size ... 🤷♂️ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 7 hours ago, john luke said: Perfect for @fforest... 👍 He can show off his well-toned physique on his walks along Beach Road! 🌴🌞🌈 Just have to find a Hawaiian print... 😉 . . . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 IMO, in the tropics, a good polyester/cotton blend shirt that 'wicks' away sweat/moisture is far superior to 100% cotton. Also washes & dries better. . . . My choice (albeit pricey) will last 100s of washes. "Made with a lightweight, easy-care 65% recycled polyester/35% organic cotton blend for cool comfort..." https://wornwear.patagonia.com/products/ms-short-sleeved-island-hopper-shirt_52166_vintage_fwc?color=fireworks-cilantro 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 (edited) 3 hours ago, lazarus said: IMO, in the tropics, a good polyester/cotton blend shirt that 'wicks' away sweat/moisture is far superior to 100% cotton. Also washes & dries better. . . . My choice (albeit pricey) will last 100s of washes. "Made with a lightweight, easy-care 65% recycled polyester/35% organic cotton blend for cool comfort..." https://wornwear.patagonia.com/products/ms-short-sleeved-island-hopper-shirt_52166_vintage_fwc?color=fireworks-cilantro Well if pricey is OK, then go with the best....And the best is Linen.....I would only wear Linen clothing if possible....It lasts the longest....And wears the coolest.... Edited July 30 by fforest 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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