Popular Post Butch Posted October 27 Popular Post Share Posted October 27 I always was of the opinion that the Poppy represented and stood for the memory of the lives and sacrifice of the Men and Women of past conflicts and as such was a non political, judgmental and unbiased show of respect and remembrance when worn by an individual, regardless of any sexual orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. The RBL, adding a Rainbow flag to the Poppy I think is adding a political aspect to something that has traditionally been neutral. Now, while I fully support LGBTQ rights because we're lucky enough to live in a Country where many have paid the ultimate price for our freedoms which we can enjoy, I'm thinking perhaps this is an unwarranted and unnecessary move on behalf of the RBL. If it gets them more PR and as a result, more money, then great, but unfortunately there's a backlash which seems to be very negative. https://www.gbnews.com/news/poppy-appeal-row-pride-flag-outrage https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31320452/poppy-appeal-badge-pride-flag-backlash/ 4 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richy65 Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 I’m absolutely disgusted by this and I won’t be making my usual donation to the RBL this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Horizondave Posted October 27 Popular Post Share Posted October 27 22 minutes ago, Butch said: I always was of the opinion that the Poppy represented and stood for the memory of the lives and sacrifice of the Men and Women of past conflicts and as such was a non political, judgmental and unbiased show of respect and remembrance when worn by an individual, regardless of any sexual orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. The RBL, adding a Rainbow flag to the Poppy I think is adding a political aspect to something that has traditionally been neutral. Now, while I fully support LGBTQ rights because we're lucky enough to live in a Country where many have paid the ultimate price for our freedoms which we can enjoy, I'm thinking perhaps this is an unwarranted and unnecessary move on behalf of the RBL. If it gets them more PR and as a result, more money, then great, but unfortunately there's a backlash which seems to be very negative. https://www.gbnews.com/news/poppy-appeal-row-pride-flag-outrage https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31320452/poppy-appeal-badge-pride-flag-backlash/ I saw a snippet of info about this. Think it applies to a ceramic poppy that costs about £6, don't believe it will be replicated on the give away/donation poppies that are always available. LGBTQ rights is one thing, poppy wearing is another and should be to remember those who have fallen in world wars/conflicts etc., I really don't understand the significance of combining the 2, it is obviously going to create division and it will not serve to focus on those who the poppy represents, it will only serve to reduce the ability to create funds necessary. The poppy itself should be enough for anyone to pay tribute, it is non political, non religious and should allow all those of any sexual belief to pay homage and respect to those who fought for our freedoms. 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richy65 Posted October 27 Popular Post Share Posted October 27 The problem for me is that part of this ridiculous pride flag represents people like blm who detest the British flag and legendary figures like Churchill and Nelson etc 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Can't believe people have having their feelings are hurt by the RBL selling one novelty item ... they also sell football ones , rugby ones and items for pets .... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 5 hours ago, Stillearly said: Can't believe people have having their feelings are hurt by the RBL selling one novelty item ... they also sell football ones , rugby ones and items for pets .... About 5 years ago the RBL were boycotted for not helping a veteran whilst at the same time spending shit loads on rebranding. I think @bob lt knows more on the subject .. or try Mr Google Personally I have 3 metal poppies which were purchased online from SSAFA website and I would happily spend more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I have no problem with the poppies but after reading this: https://uk.indeed.com/cmp/Royal-British-Legion/salaries/Diversity-and-Inclusion-Manager the RBL can whistle for my money. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcharliemofo Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 hours ago, coxyhog said: I have no problem with the poppies but after reading this: https://uk.indeed.com/cmp/Royal-British-Legion/salaries/Diversity-and-Inclusion-Manager the RBL can whistle for my money. You beat me to it. There was a report on either GB News or Talk about this and the pride nonsense but on there I'm sure it was quoted as £60k+ ? You'd need to sell a lot of poppies to get that money to actual worth while causes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 2 hours ago, mrcharliemofo said: You beat me to it. There was a report on either GB News or Talk about this and the pride nonsense but on there I'm sure it was quoted as £60k+ ? You'd need to sell a lot of poppies to get that money to actual worth while causes. The big figure of £45k was the average,the highest was £67+k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted October 28 Author Share Posted October 28 15 hours ago, Stillearly said: Can't believe people have having their feelings are hurt by the RBL selling one novelty item ... they also sell football ones , rugby ones and items for pets .... The thing is mate that it's not really novelty so much, it is a political statement and linked to activism groups .That's the crux of this whole thing. The Poppy is neutral and non political, as the RBL should also be. My mate runs a poppy stall for the RBL, I'll catch up with him this weekend and ask his thoughts and if he's noticed any reduction in donations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 23 hours ago, coxyhog said: I have no problem with the poppies but after reading this: https://uk.indeed.com/cmp/Royal-British-Legion/salaries/Diversity-and-Inclusion-Manager the RBL can whistle for my money. I would think the duties and responsibilities of a "diversity and inclusion manager" should fall under the HR Dept area of responsibility. So why do businesses need a separate dept and manger for diversity and inclusion? That's a rhetorical question as I understand it's for optics. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs joe Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Leaving a supermarket store in Spain there was a RBL table set up , I put my pocket change in their tin , and was offered to take a metal poppy from the selection , I thank him and declined the offer, I thought that the cash I’d put in tin didn’t cover the cost, thinking on it is a clever marketing ploy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) Wrong thread Edited October 30 by Horizondave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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