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Thanks for the photos, it looks great. It's been on my wish list for a while, was too lazy to do the bus trip last time I was in PP.

How was the bus journey BTW?  I'd heard albeit dated reports about the road between Kep and Kampot being a nightmare.

Would be great to here how long it took, any stops etc🙂

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7 hours ago, Lemondropkid said:

Thanks for the photos, it looks great. It's been on my wish list for a while, was too lazy to do the bus trip last time I was in PP.

How was the bus journey BTW?  I'd heard albeit dated reports about the road between Kep and Kampot being a nightmare.

Would be great to here how long it took, any stops etc🙂

I didn't visit kep came straight to Kampot but all the roads that we took were fine no issues whatsoever it took 11 hours from Siem Reap but I took the sleeper bus and it was really comfortable I actually got hours of sleep while I didn't think I would each compartment is big enough for a 6-footer more than a 6-footer and you're going to be a little cramped. The busted stop a couple of times but I never got off because they had a toilet on the bus. It was a lot more comfortable than I thought it would be

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Do you know anything about the long term visa options? I suppose I could google it.... 

Here in the Philippines, it's 3 years on an extendable tourist visa, no questions asked. 

Thank you for your report. 

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7 hours ago, sakik2024 said:

Do you know anything about the long term visa options? I suppose I could google it.... 

Here in the Philippines, it's 3 years on an extendable tourist visa, no questions asked. 

Thank you for your report. 

I was told any travel agent can handle that one year Visa 295 dollars us no questions asked this was told to me by an expat living here I assume it's correct as he has been here quite a while

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Thanks for the report. For next year, I suggest Vietnam. It's not accessible by bus, or at least not very easily, but if you book early, you can get cheap flights.

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We've probably all read about the Chinese takeover of Snooky and how it's nothing but casinos and high-rise buildings these days. This was the view of the town from Wat Leu, the temple up on the hill behind the town, back in 2005, though it's spread over such a large area that it's difficult to get it all in one photo. That's looking towards Occheuteal Beach and note the complete absence of anything high-rise, and the rest of the city to the right of the photo, over towards Victory Hill and the port area, was the same.

054 54) Looking towards Occheuteal beach from Wat Leu.JPG

I mentioned that I used to stay on Occheuteal Beach. Just behind it was a famous Snooky landmark, the Golden Lions traffic circle (that's a roundabout to us Brits). I took the left-hand snap back in 2005, and the town was much the same in all directions. Then a few months ago I was reading an article in The Times on the developments over the last decade or so in Cambodia and they included the photo on the right of what the Golden Lion traffic circle looks like nowadays.

Golden Lions traffic circle 2005 and 2025.jpg

Call me a stick-in-the mud, but I much preferred it in the old days, though there's far more money sloshing around the place and I hope enough of it makes its way down to the ordinary Khmers. 

 

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3 hours ago, Toy Boy said:

We've probably all read about the Chinese takeover of Snooky and how it's nothing but casinos and high-rise buildings these days. This was the view of the town from Wat Leu, the temple up on the hill behind the town, back in 2005, though it's spread over such a large area that it's difficult to get it all in one photo. That's looking towards Occheuteal Beach and note the complete absence of anything high-rise, and the rest of the city to the right of the photo, over towards Victory Hill and the port area, was the same.

054 54) Looking towards Occheuteal beach from Wat Leu.JPG

I mentioned that I used to stay on Occheuteal Beach. Just behind it was a famous Snooky landmark, the Golden Lions traffic circle (that's a roundabout to us Brits). I took the left-hand snap back in 2005, and the town was much the same in all directions. Then a few months ago I was reading an article in The Times on the developments over the last decade or so in Cambodia and they included the photo on the right of what the Golden Lion traffic circle looks like nowadays.

Golden Lions traffic circle 2005 and 2025.jpg

Call me a stick-in-the mud, but I much preferred it in the old days, though there's far more money sloshing around the place and I hope enough of it makes its way down to the ordinary Khmers. 

 

Found this image on FB with Wat Leu in the foreground. Posted in January. That's a lot of development in 20 years.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=502384976209298&set=a.176434775470988

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20 hours ago, forcebwithu said:

Found this image on FB with Wat Leu in the foreground. Posted in January. That's a lot of development in 20 years.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=502384976209298&set=a.176434775470988

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Thanks for posting that, I really hadn't realised how far it had gone. Sad IMHO, but I suppose the Chinese love it, probably reminds them of the urban deserts they live in back home. I wonder what the locals make of it? I'm just glad I spent several visits there in the days when it was a sleepy, unspoilt town.

One historical aside: during my first few visits the local Governor had banned the rental of motorbikes to foreign tourists as there had been a few unfortunate accidents, probably with some excess C2H6O involved. As it covers a big area and I had little idea about the layout, this didn't bother me and I was happy to use the cheap motorbike taxis. It certainly annoyed a lot of people, though, and was OTT as a reaction as, at the time, it probably had the widest, quietest roads of any decent-sized town I've ever been in.

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I must admit that I'm still a bit shocked by what Snooky has become, the Chinese have basically done there in less than a decade what it took the Thais and their various foreign partners half a century to do in Pattaya. And the reality is even worse according to this informative Chinese article I found online:

https://globalchinapulse.net/sihanoukville-rise-and-fall-of-a-frontier-city/

While the authorities and locals get worked up in Pattaya about failed projects like the Waterfront, Snooky is now on a totally different level:

"According to an official from Cambodia’s Ministry of Economy and Finance, as of early July 2022, Sihanoukville had 1,155 projects that remained incomplete, accounting for 70 to 80 per cent of all the buildings in the city—a situation that was still dragging on at the time of writing in mid-2024, despite various attempts by the Cambodian Government and Chinese business associations to find viable solutions."

So those buildings under construction in the photo of the Golden Lions I got from The Times are most likely to have been abandoned. Anyway, one of my plans if the tax authorities were to force me to spend no more than 179 days a year in Thailand was to move down the coast to Snooky for 4 or 5 months of the year, but that no longer looks like it would be a good idea.

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