Built in China

[coxyhog]

https://news.sky.com/story/newly-opened-758-metre-bridge-in-china-collapses-13469162

[Jambo]

I am not at all surprised that a bridge built by the Chinese collapsed. I am only surprised one of their own nukes hasn't taken out Beijing by now.

No more chicken chow mein, spare ribs and egg fried rice for me. 

I currently have a fridge/freezer which mostly meets my needs except the freezer isn't big enough. 

                      

So Iast week I ordered and received the next day from Amazon what was described as a desk top freezer to augment my existing fridge/freezer. I had no idea until it arrived that said freezer was "made in China" and most certainly would not have purchased it if I had seen that in the small print.

My error! 🤑

I broke the world record for a 17 kilo freezer, dead lift, destroying its packaging in the process. Excited by my new freezer I plugged it in, turned it on, only to be greeted by a noise from within the compressor that sounded like a aging 747 taking off. Scared of fire or an explosion I pulled the plug. 

Their UK supplier wants to charge me to collect the faulty item by deducting the cost from my refund. Amazon, to quote an appropriate Scottish response, have told them to "get-ta-f**k"................but.........  politely! 

No more cost to me states Amazon but give Amazon 2 weeks to process their " A to Z" protocol (whatever that may be") and all will be sorted.

"Made in China" , Get-ta-f**k indeed!

 

 

[forcebwithu]

12 hours ago, Jambo said:

I am not at all surprised that a bridge built by the Chinese collapsed. I am only surprised one of their own nukes hasn't taken out Beijing by now.

No more chicken chow mein, spare ribs and egg fried rice for me. 

I currently have a fridge/freezer which mostly meets my needs except the freezer isn't big enough. 

                      

So Iast week I ordered and received the next day from Amazon what was described as a desk top freezer to augment my existing fridge/freezer. I had no idea until it arrived that said freezer was "made in China" and most certainly would not have purchased it if I had seen that in the small print.

My error! 🤑

I broke the world record for a 17 kilo freezer, dead lift, destroying its packaging in the process. Excited by my new freezer I plugged it in, turned it on, only to be greeted by a noise from within the compressor that sounded like a aging 747 taking off. Scared of fire or an explosion I pulled the plug. 

Their UK supplier wants to charge me to collect the faulty item by deducting the cost from my refund. Amazon, to quote an appropriate Scottish response, have told them to "get-ta-f**k"................but.........  politely! 

No more cost to me states Amazon but give Amazon 2 weeks to process their " A to Z" protocol (whatever that may be") and all will be sorted.

"Made in China" , Get-ta-f**k indeed!

 

 

The other small print you might have missed is you need to let a new fridge sit for a couple of hours after delivery before turning it on.

 

You should let a new fridge sit before turning it on if it was transported on its side or at a tilt.

Why you let it sit

Inside the fridge’s compressor is oil. If the fridge has been tilted during transport, some of that oil can flow into the refrigerant lines.
Letting the fridge sit upright allows the oil to drain back down into the compressor.
If you turn it on too soon, the compressor may run without proper lubrication and can be permanently damaged.

How long to wait

• If transported upright the whole time: 0–1 hour is usually enough.

• If transported on its side or at a steep angle: wait 4–24 hours, depending on manufacturer instructions.
  A common rule of thumb: Wait the same amount of time it spent on its side, up to 24 hours.

After the wait

Plug it in, let it cool to operating temperature (typically 2–6 hours), then load food.

If you tell me the fridge brand/model or whether it was moved upright or sideways, I can give you the exact wait time.

[Jambo]

On 11/14/2025 at 12:08 AM, forcebwithu said:

The other small print you might have missed is you need to let a new fridge sit for a couple of hours after delivery before turning it on.

 

You should let a new fridge sit before turning it on if it was transported on its side or at a tilt.

Why you let it sit

Inside the fridge’s compressor is oil. If the fridge has been tilted during transport, some of that oil can flow into the refrigerant lines.
Letting the fridge sit upright allows the oil to drain back down into the compressor.
If you turn it on too soon, the compressor may run without proper lubrication and can be permanently damaged.

How long to wait

• If transported upright the whole time: 0–1 hour is usually enough.

• If transported on its side or at a steep angle: wait 4–24 hours, depending on manufacturer instructions.
  A common rule of thumb: Wait the same amount of time it spent on its side, up to 24 hours.

After the wait

Plug it in, let it cool to operating temperature (typically 2–6 hours), then load food.

If you tell me the fridge brand/model or whether it was moved upright or sideways, I can give you the exact wait time.

That's excellent information of which I was blissfully unaware.

It was certainly the right way up on delivery and I am sure was always so within my condo although maybe through luck rather than judgement as I do not recall any warning on the packaging to that effect.

I effectively dismantled the packaging around it as there was no easy way of extracting it otherwise. I dead-lifted its 17 kilos onto the work surface and then again to its final resting place always upright.

Unfortunately, I am sure that once it was in its final location I very soon tried an initial test run only to be serenaded immediately by a loud noise which I very soon tracked down to coming from the compressor. As I mentioned, it was delivered upright and remained so within the condo to the best of my recollection. On the other hand, I was keen to test it out. 

It has been left for several days now. I certainly did not wish to run it initially for any length of time in case something more dramatic occurred.  I tried it briefly a few minutes ago and the same loud noise is apparent.

Amazon appear to be saying all the right things basically "don't worry" and "leave it with us" etc, etc, although it remains to be seen if their actions really do speak louder than words.

I just want to get shot of it and receive a refund without any additional cost to me.

[forcebwithu]

29 minutes ago, Jambo said:

That's excellent information of which I was blissfully unaware.

It was certainly the right way up on delivery and I am sure was always so within my condo although maybe through luck rather than judgement as I do not recall any warning on the packaging to that effect.

I effectively dismantled the packaging around it as there was no easy way of extracting it otherwise. I dead-lifted its 17 kilos onto the work surface and then again to its final resting place always upright.

Unfortunately, I am sure that once it was in its final location I very soon tried an initial test run only to be serenaded immediately by a loud noise which I very soon tracked down to coming from the compressor. As I mentioned, it was delivered upright and remained so within the condo to the best of my recollection. On the other hand, I was keen to test it out. 

It has been left for several days now. I certainly did not wish to run it initially for any length of time in case something more dramatic occurred.  I tried it briefly a few minutes ago and the same loud noise is apparent.

Amazon appear to be saying all the right things basically "don't worry" and "leave it with us" etc, etc, although it remains to be seen if their actions really do speak louder than words.

I just want to get shot of it and receive a refund without any additional cost to me.

I hope Amazon does right by you. As for the upright part; the problem is you don't know how it was handled before it arrived at your place.

[Jambo]

14 minutes ago, forcebwithu said:

I hope Amazon does right by you. As for the upright part; the problem is you don't know how it was handled before it arrived at your place.

Exactly!

[CalEden]

At least in the USA if you are not satisfied for any reason within the stated refund period Amazon will take back their product and refund your full purchase price upon notification the shipper picked up your return.

As Prime member I get free one day shipping. I was doing home repairs last week and needed parts got same day 4 hour delivery. I hate shopping I do all my shopping except food via Amazon.  Go to the app search for what I want. Order it and it's delivered to my doorstep the next day. The home repair item on Amazon was $6 cheaper than Home Depot and I saved a 40 mile roundtrip drive, plus my time.  

P.S.

This summer I bought a full-sized refrigerator because the one in the condo wasn't getting my beer cold enough. I put it on the balcony next to the hot tube, toasty tub and icy cold beer. When I left gave it to the GF to take back to the jungle. I was going to plug in immediately, GF stopped me. The salesperson had told her to wait 2 hours before starting.   

Edited November 16, 2025 by CalEden

[Jambo]

Quote:

Their UK supplier wants to charge me to collect the faulty item by deducting the cost from my refund. Amazon, to quote an appropriate Scottish response, have told them to "get-ta-f**k"................but.........  politely! 

No more cost to me states Amazon but give Amazon 2 weeks to process their " A to Z" protocol (whatever that may be") and all will be sorted by Amazon.

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No doubt thanks to Amazon's customer service training they spout out all the right things both verbally and in writing. Basically summarized as, "be patient and wait for our A to Z protocol to expire in 2 weeks and we will deal with everything for you." and "Of course no additional costs to you!"

It has expired so how have Amazon dealt with the matter on my behalf?

They just sent me an email telling me to down load the attached label and return the freezer to the supplier in the box it arrived in (told them it no longer exists) at my expense and they "hope" the supplier will then subsequently both return my original purchase price and the cost of the return!  

Yeah, as if that is going happen................NOT!