Popular Post Painter Posted November 25, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2025 mods.... feel free to merge this with another thread if appropriate I arrived about 8.10pm, having done a loop of Myth Night, where probably 50% of the bars had a customer or 2, 10% were busy with 8-10 customers. @Yesitisdakid beat me there, but it didn't take much searching to find him. We estimated there were 25-30 girls in the place, but it was hard to distinguish between who was working and who were customers. The view along the rail at the front The bars in the back corners were completely empty. The aircon was good, the air curtains almost being too good. A security guard, of whom there were several, noticed us talking about them and turned them down. The individual sound systems weren't working, so one central sound system was in operation. This meant speakers dotted around the places, with wires available as trip hazards. However, as always, the music seemed to be aimed at a younger crowd than us, and at one time we all commented that they'd just cranked the volume up Drinks appeared reasonably priced, a free shot was delivered under orders of the chap in MM uniform. Total number of customers is hard to say as several of the pool tables were being used by what appeared to be owners. My best guess is about 30, of which we numbered 6. This number didn't increase (did it decrease?) until we left about 9.45. Toilets were new, clean, but strangely laid out with urinals in full view of communal washbasins. Overall, nothing to entice me to go back.... 7 1 6 5
Popular Post forcebwithu Posted November 25, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 25, 2025 Regarding the music volume; typical bar owner mentality that if there are no customers the solution is to turn up the volume of the music in the misguided hope of attracting customers in. It seemed to me the bar with the pole dancers and no customers in the back right area was the loudest source of music. Even though we were sitting in the center front bar, if there were speakers elsewhere, it wasn't apparent as that one bar dominated the entire complex with the volume of the music from their area and made conversation where we were sitting difficult. If it's true that bars can independently control the volume of the music coming from their bar area, that will make for a very loud environment when bars compete for customers using the volume knob for their respective speaker system. I think the estimate of 30 customers might on the generous side as that would be my estimate of the number of bar owners, staff and a heavy security presence. My estimate is our group of 6 represented half of the number of customers in the entire complex. It was good seeing fellow BM's again. Hope we can meet up again on another evening, just not at MM Beer Garden. 7 1 5
Popular Post Yesitisdakid Posted November 26, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2025 It's early days for sure but they have to do some changing if they're going to make that place work. As I've said here and on other posts in other places you got to have a hook. Something that's going to bring people in and keep them coming back and this place at this point in early days does it have it. I walked through Myth and while it wasn't really busy in there it was a pretty good atmosphere tons of girls. With one of these bars for sale already this could dictate the future 3 6
forcebwithu Posted November 26, 2025 Posted November 26, 2025 As it's been years since I've been to the bars around MM, I was surprised to see the amount of foot traffic going in both directions in front of MM. Also noticeable was the number of those passing that looked into MM and kept right on walking. During the 1+ hour we were there I think maybe 2 or 3 bothered to come into the bar area. 7
Popular Post Painter Posted November 26, 2025 Author Popular Post Posted November 26, 2025 4 hours ago, forcebwithu said: As it's been years since I've been to the bars around MM, I was surprised to see the amount of foot traffic going in both directions in front of MM. Also noticeable was the number of those passing that looked into MM and kept right on walking. During the 1+ hour we were there I think maybe 2 or 3 bothered to come into the bar area. When I left, I was surprised by how the numbers of customers in the bars between MM and buckhou had increased. And yes, the soi outside MMs was busy, but there was nothing to entice them in, apart from a cavernous, noisy, empty, space... 3 6
Popular Post Butch Posted November 26, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 26, 2025 Pretty good evidence that high footfall doesn't equal customers. I find these bar complexes off putting anyway, or at least going on my experience of Las Vegas complex. While the choice is there, there's nothing different about any of the bars to make me want to go to one, as the ones with decent girls are busy and most seats taken, then you get a bit of "imposter syndrome" if you want to go into a bar that is busy. Also, I've found that these places lack any kind of atmosphere. Go into a 1 unit Beer bar on pothole, or one of the older traditional square bars like Cherry or those along Diana and you can pick up the vibe, these places just seem to be ikea versions - nothing unique or special about them, just a visual monotony and a business plan aiming at separating you from your money with minimal interaction. 4 11
Yesitisdakid Posted November 26, 2025 Posted November 26, 2025 2 hours ago, Butch said: Pretty good evidence that high footfall doesn't equal customers. I find these bar complexes off putting anyway, or at least going on my experience of Las Vegas complex. While the choice is there, there's nothing different about any of the bars to make me want to go to one, as the ones with decent girls are busy and most seats taken, then you get a bit of "imposter syndrome" if you want to go into a bar that is busy. Also, I've found that these places lack any kind of atmosphere. Go into a 1 unit Beer bar on pothole, or one of the older traditional square bars like Cherry or those along Diana and you can pick up the vibe, these places just seem to be ikea versions - nothing unique or special about them, just a visual monotony and a business plan aiming at separating you from your money with minimal interaction. I agree the one exception I found in the early days the siren beer bar that at one time was in front of the beer garden was a very busy place all the bars seem to do really well obviously the ones in front more so than the middle or the rear ones but they always seem to have a fair amount of activity. Now this goes back of course probably 10 years ago before they started to slow down in general. But now going into a bar complex like that that's open seating just makes it tough for the owners to make a buck. The good ones and they're generally will be a couple will do real well but the others will lag. As someone has said one of the bars in this complex is already for sale crazy 3 1 2
Popular Post forcebwithu Posted November 27, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 27, 2025 For myself, I'd rather sit at the remodeled beer bars on Soi Piss Alley and Diana than MM Beer Bar Complex. 4 1 3
Yesitisdakid Posted November 28, 2025 Posted November 28, 2025 21 hours ago, forcebwithu said: For myself, I'd rather sit at the remodeled beer bars on Soi Piss Alley and Diana than MM Beer Bar Complex. More to see that's for sure 1 4
Popular Post Stillearly Posted November 28, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2025 Absolute shite .. three of us went , prepared to spend... but there was nothing to keep us there .. we bought drinks at different bars , the girls were fat and bored, looking at their phones.. that's three of us , plus two more friends arriving tomorrow that aren't going to be drinking there . 1 3 6 2 2
Popular Post Stillearly Posted November 28, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 28, 2025 The rest of the Soi was really busy 3 1 7
Popular Post Painter Posted November 30, 2025 Author Popular Post Posted November 30, 2025 Wanna larf? Go on, you know you do.... "It's too easy...." https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17bfdh7P71/ 1 2 7
forcebwithu Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 47 minutes ago, Painter said: Wanna larf? Go on, you know you do.... "It's too easy...." https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17bfdh7P71/ "...this one seems to make money without even trying" as he's showing a bar that was devoid of customers when we were there last week. 7
Popular Post Derek Dangleberries Posted November 30, 2025 Popular Post Posted November 30, 2025 On 11/28/2025 at 11:57 PM, Stillearly said: but there was nothing to keep us there 1 hour ago, forcebwithu said: devoid of customers when we were there last week 2 hours ago, Painter said: Wanna larf? Go on, you know you do.... "It's too easy...." https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17bfdh7P71/ "It's a young person's bar" WTF did you old fogeys expect .. A game of Bingo with Mrs Mills playing the piano ...??? 1 12
nampla69 Posted November 30, 2025 Posted November 30, 2025 Vote of thanks to young Painter, Pretty Bitch and Stillearly for their dedication and sterling work in reviewing and keeping us all up to date. It looked before it opened just like another boring semi-open small beer bar complex like the crap in Tree Town in some dull noisy back street playing Hotel California and Zombie ..... lo and behold seems to be just that. But please pray tell what on earth is an "air curtain' and all this technology to block out sounds from one small bar to another ???? Never seen it in LOS or anywhere else to be honest. 2 4
Popular Post SteveBC Posted December 1, 2025 Popular Post Posted December 1, 2025 No idea ref' the music system ?? But an "air curtain" comprises of a row of blower units mounted across the open entrance to a complex which enables it to be air conditioned. The blower units keep the cold air inside rather than allowing it to spill out into the outside area. Many bars in Pattaya have such a system in use, for instance the Scooter bars. Many years ago the U-Too bar, on 3rd road opposite to Alkazar, had them, it was a very large bar but always cool inside......By Buddha i miss that bar... 1 4 3
Popular Post forcebwithu Posted December 1, 2025 Popular Post Posted December 1, 2025 You can see the air curtains mounted the length of the bar entrance in this pic that @Painter posted. In the background you can also see the bar the owner bragged "seems to make money without even trying". The air curtains are somewhat effective at keeping the A/C inside, but you can still feel a good amount of cold air leaking out as you walk by. Below is a good close up of the units courtesy of @Painter. There's also a good shot of the speaker system that was advertised to provide a sound bubble. It looks like all someone did is slap together a foam lined box to contain the speaker. Anyone with a basic knowledge of sound could have told that someone that sound waves will reflect off all the hard surfaces in the bar area and be all but impossible to contain to a specific area. 3 7
Painter Posted December 1, 2025 Author Posted December 1, 2025 Bloomin' fakebook keeps showing me Maggies Mays stuff, and I really wish it wouldn't, but.... This was posted 2 hours ago. I guess that offer on the "it's soooo easy" bar wasn't forthcoming.... https://www.facebook.com/share/17zYmqG6NF/ Ffs, the artist's impression is nothing like what the complex looks like, and I guess the pictures shown are from the opening night, as this is likely to have been the only night with that many customers in.... 1 6
Popular Post nampla69 Posted December 1, 2025 Popular Post Posted December 1, 2025 14 hours ago, forcebwithu said: You can see the air curtains mounted the length of the bar entrance in this pic that @Painter posted. In the background you can also see the bar the owner bragged "seems to make money without even trying". The air curtains are somewhat effective at keeping the A/C inside, but you can still feel a good amount of cold air leaking out as you walk by. Below is a good close up of the units courtesy of @Painter. There's also a good shot of the speaker system that was advertised to provide a sound bubble. It looks like all someone did is slap together a foam lined box to contain the speaker. Anyone with a basic knowledge of sound could have told that someone that sound waves will reflect off all the hard surfaces in the bar area and be all but impossible to contain to a specific area. Thanks to SC and ForceBWU appreciated. So getting all techie is you think of an air curtain as like a bead curtain every time someone enters or a hostess pops out for a bowl of som tam does the air curtain sort of open and quickly close again ? Love Force's description of the sound bubble as being basically a speaker in an old foam box. Now I'm no physicist but know Newton's laws of motion and Einsteins E=mc2 and have watched "Oppenheimer" recently and even I know sounds travels in waves and bounces off surfaces. So in scientific terms the claims that each bar will have its own enclosed sound is what is known as a priori a "Load of old bollocks". 1 4 4
Painter Posted December 2, 2025 Author Posted December 2, 2025 9 hours ago, nampla69 said: Thanks to SC and ForceBWU appreciated. So getting all techie is you think of an air curtain as like a bead curtain every time someone enters or a hostess pops out for a bowl of som tam does the air curtain sort of open and quickly close again ? Love Force's description of the sound bubble as being basically a speaker in an old foam box. Now I'm no physicist but know Newton's laws of motion and Einsteins E=mc2 and have watched "Oppenheimer" recently and even I know sounds travels in waves and bounces off surfaces. So in scientific terms the claims that each bar will have its own enclosed sound is what is known as a priori a "Load of old bollocks". Think of it as a stream of air blowing from above acting as an invisible wall to keep the cool air in, that you can walk through. It doesn't turn off, but will give you a quick blow dry as you pass through it. 2
Stillearly Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 2 hours ago, Painter said: Think of it as a stream of air blowing from above acting as an invisible wall to keep the cool air in, that you can walk through. It doesn't turn off, but will give you a quick blow dry as you pass through it. If they advertised it as free blow jobs they might attract more customers... 555 6
Yesitisdakid Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 4 hours ago, Stillearly said: If they advertised it as free blow jobs they might attract more customers... 555 Not sure even that would help 1
fforest Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 17 hours ago, nampla69 said: Thanks to SC and ForceBWU appreciated. So getting all techie is you think of an air curtain as like a bead curtain every time someone enters or a hostess pops out for a bowl of som tam does the air curtain sort of open and quickly close again ? Love Force's description of the sound bubble as being basically a speaker in an old foam box. Now I'm no physicist but know Newton's laws of motion and Einsteins E=mc2 and have watched "Oppenheimer" recently and even I know sounds travels in waves and bounces off surfaces. So in scientific terms the claims that each bar will have its own enclosed sound is what is known as a priori a "Load of old bollocks". One thing is 100% certain about the air curtain....Their electric bill will be $$$$. 1 2
Yesitisdakid Posted December 2, 2025 Posted December 2, 2025 3 hours ago, thegrogmonster said: That artist rendition looks absolutely nothing like the place 1
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