Ivan the terrible

despite my exasperation at your total and self proclaimed ignorance i hope it doesnt visit you

its not likely to be false with 3 outletswith diametically opposed political views reporting same...sticking your head up your arse however is likely to produce unpleasant and not false consequences

despite all its hype I gave up after a couple of episodes

f**k!

i think its a large reason why the "curve "isnt declining rapidly as it should...the pool keeps being topped up by new arrivals and off it goes again doubling the infection in resident people every 12-24hrs

about bloody time

The media have been all over the government with ridiculous "gotcha" interviews,they have been a disgrace.The UK seems to have have had a disproportionately bad time with this virus which is probably multifactoral.small crowded island with high density housing ,public transport(eg tube),an international airport hub,many hundreds of thousands of UK citizens returning home from overseas and likely very high levels of Vitamin d deficiency at the end of winter(an integral part of the innate immune system which in kids is very strong) in a high latitude country,equivalent to Newfoundland. However the different methodologies in reporting from different countries make like for like comparisons fraught with difficulty and very likely inaccurate at this stage Yes the Government have made some mistakes but there is an international shortage of PPE and testing kits still.The NHS has been slow and cumbersome rather than agile in developing rapid innovations(particularly options from local suppliers and mandatory rapid retooling of industry to supply PPE and test kits) to circumvent there problems and the flirting with the herd immunity idea albeit briefly was also mistake .The biggest mistake is keeping the UK borders open rather than shutting them down and putting anyone arriving into mandatory,policed 2 weeks quarantine into unused hotels However on the whole they have done pretty well from a standing start eg Nightingales,Extreme lockdown .rules and huge financial stimulus The WHO and China have been the biggest villans in this story with their mimisation of the risk ,which when it became apparent caught most countries with their pants down and unprepared

smokers and copd patients seem to at no significant extra risk ...who would have thunk it

you are a skinny f**k...you should be ok

this is why people with obesity,hypertension,diabetes,heart disease get preferentially killed by this bastard virus It kills because its a blood vessel disease...not JUST because its a lung disease...the lungs are a portal of entry to the circulation not necessarily the mechanism of death

The issue seems increasingly one to be one of oxygen free radicals aka oxidative stress

fucking garbage post

they should close down now

http://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/like-sabotage-the-uk-has-locked-down-its-people-but-still-has-open-borders/#comment-2325409 Like sabotage? The UK has locked down its people but still has open borders Figure that UK residents can be fined for gathering in a group of three in the park across the road, but can legally travel to Tehran or Moscow if they reckon it’s essential (though the Russians might not let you in). Coronavirus is raging in Moscow but Russians can fly to Heathrow for a bargain next week.......

its scandalous that they persue the "gotcha" without paying any attention to the complexities...a plague on their leftie houses trying to score political points ... f**k them All more northern NHemisphere countries have not done well?vitamin D related OPen access with no border controls a bigger problem imo...what were they thinking not closing the borders and putting any arrivals into a mandatory 2 week quarantine..ENFORCED .. in a location outside their home...and policed

in a similar vein 1 case early April in an abbatoir / meat packing factory in Melbourne...unrecognised(other than the diagnosis) and more importantly untracked and no contract tracing until this last week...in a land of very very few cases ...now 71 cases ....it is so contagious

Yes I saw that too....you wonder how hands were clean and gloves and masks worn after a skin sterilising shower...immeadiately before the sample was collected the testis are generally regarded as immune isolated,but not the seminal vesicles or prostate requires a confirmatory study with a larger sample size

heartbreaking and welled up

bugger!

http://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/beware-the-famous-flu-death-tally-is-highly-adjusted-and-coronavirus-is-still-10-times-worse/ Beware: the famous Flu death tally is “highly adjusted” and Coronavirus is still 10 times worse The annual Flu death tally is not what it seems .....

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Munich in Ocktober may be an option

"So"?..."going forward" is what really pisses me off

As the old saying goes, In God we trust: all others bring data. At last, we have some decent – if not yet peer-reviewed – data on who is most susceptible to the Chinese virus. A large survey of patients hospitalized with the infection has just been published. Features of 16,749 hospitalized UK patients with COVID-19 using the ISARIC WHO Clinical Characterization Protocol is full of useful facts of which governments can take advantage. Perhaps the most startling results were that a third of all hospitalized patients died, 17% are still in hospital and only half have been discharged. Almost half of all intensive-care or high-dependency patients and more than half of all ventilated patients died. Almost half of those admitted to hospital had no comorbidities: age seems to be the most important risk factor. Those aged 50-69 were 4 times likelier to die than those under 50: those in their 70s were 10 times likelier to die; those over 80 were 14 times likelier to die; females were 20% less likely to die than males. Since the paper is not yet peer-reviewed, an outside expert opinion was sought from Dr Derek Hill, Professor of Medical Imaging at University College, London, who said: “This is an extremely impressive preprint describing the characteristics of nearly 17000 patients with confirmed COVID-19 in UK hospitals. Important to note it only covers those admitted to hospital, and that it is a snapshot of outcomes: many patients included are still in hospital so their outcomes are not yet known. Therefore all the mortality and survival numbers are subject to change. “This is an especially large study, so it provides helpful insights into the symptoms of COVID-19 patients admitted to hospital. As has been reported many times, this is not like flu in who gets seriously ill or in mortality: young children seem to have low risk and pregnant women do not have a increased risk of serious illness, and it is deadlier than flu. There are several distinctive clusters of symptoms, with a significant number of patients not having the characteristic cough and fever symptoms. If extrapolated to the community, this might suggest some deaths due to COVID-19 might be missed in untested people. This work also highlights the link between obesity and poor outcome from COVID-19.” Policymakers devising strategies for phasing out lockdowns will find the following table summarizing the results useful. For instance, since those under 50 are unlikely to die of the infection and the risk of death even for those in their 60s and 70s is quite small, continuing to lock down the entire economy is no longer necessary. Instead, there will need to be better procedures for protecting old and sick people in hospitals and in care homes from infection. Outside these settings, old people are canny enough to take their own precautions. Our daily graphs of growth rates or declines in estimated active cases and growth rates in cumulative deaths shows all countries tracked bar Sweden and Ireland with active-case rates declining, and all but Canada with daily cumulative deaths growing at 3% or less. Fig. 1. Mean compound daily growth rates in estimated active cases of COVID-19 for the world excluding China (red) and for several individual nations averaged over the successive seven-day periods ending on all dates from April 1 to May 2, 2020. Fig. 2. Mean compound daily growth rates in cumulative COVID-19 deaths for the world excluding China (red) and for several individual nations averaged over the successive seven-day periods ending on all dates from April 8 to May 2, 2020.

joke?? on a subway?dont go into stand up comedy Its like shouting fire in a theatre