Ivan the terrible

strange that...i regard myself as a selfish ass but will always take a trolley back...there is hope for me yet..in my dreams lol interesting analogy

they go backwards further in swivel headed loons

I wasn't the only one warned ... but just quoting a news story on neurological damage from covid...you were the one who by definition said you had covid and were going out to contaminate people Have you got some bleach or hydroxychloroquine ?...I'm just thinking of ways to try and mimimise your evident cerebral damage You don't need to thank me..all part of the 247 help a boardie in distress program

https://www.wired.com/story/what-does-covid-19-do-to-your-brain/

f**k,f**k The Oxford University vaccine, tipped as a “front runner” in the race to develop a coronavirus jab, does not stop the virus in monkeys and may only be partially effective, experts have warned. A trial of the vaccine in rhesus macaque monkeys did not stop the animals from catching the virus and has raised questions about the vaccine’s likely human efficacy and ongoing development. The vaccine, known as ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, is now undergoing human trials in Britain. The Government has brokered a deal between Oxford University and AstraZeneca, the drug company, to produce up to 30 million doses if it proves successful having ploughed £47m into the research. “All of the vaccinated monkeys treated with the Oxford vaccine became infected when challenged as judged by recovery of virus genomic RNA from nasal secretions,” said Dr William Haseltine, a former Harvard Medical School professor who had a pivotal role in the development of early HIV/Aids treatments. “There was no difference in the amount of viral RNA detected from this site in the vaccinated monkeys as compared to the unvaccinated animals. Which is to say, all vaccinated animals were infected,” he wrote in an article on Forbes. Jonathan Ball, professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham, said that the vaccine data suggests that the jab may not be able to prevent the spread of the virus between infected individuals. “That viral loads in the noses of vaccinated and unvaccinated animals were identical is very significant. If the same happened in humans, vaccination would not stop spread,” he said. “I genuinely believe that this finding should warrant an urgent re-appraisal of the ongoing human trials of the ChAdOx1 vaccine.” The trials investigated the immune response to the Oxford vaccine in rhesus macaque monkeys and were carried out at the National Institute of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory in the US, with initial results published in a press release at the end of April. The results were said at the time to be encouraging. But publication of the full trial results last week shows the vaccine did not prevent the animals catching the virus, although there was evidence it may reduce the severity of the disease. This is in contrast to a Chinese vaccine trial in April that did appear to stop the development of Covid-19 in monkeys. That trial, by Sinovac Biotech, a privately held Beijing-based company, used a modified version of the full Sars-Cov-2 virus in its vaccine, while the Oxford vaccine uses a common cold virus to try and provoke an immune response. In the Oxford monkey trial, six monkeys were infected with single doses of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 and exposed to the coronavirus. A control group of three non-vaccinated monkeys were also infected. Both the immunised and non-immunised monkeys were then monitored for seven days for signs of developing Covid-19. One measure of infection is an increased breathing rate as the virus attacks the lungs - three of the vaccinated animals displayed this symptom. On autopsy, the researchers found the virus in the vaccinated monkey’s lungs. On the up side, none of the vaccinated monkeys displayed pneumonia - which suggests that while not stopping the virus, it may be partially protective. Dr Haseltine said this was “encouraging”, but that “experience with other vaccines tells us that is not a firm guarantee that such will be the case for humans.” “It is crystal clear that the vaccine did not provide sterilizing immunity to the virus challenge, the gold standard for any vaccine. It may provide partial protection,” he said. The doubts about the vaccine come after Alok Sharma, the Business Secretary, said that the speed at which Oxford was pushing ahead with development was “genuinely unprecedented” and that the first clinical trials were “progressing well”. He also announced £84 million of additional funding to further accelerate the vaccine research at Oxford University and another UK vaccine candidate being developed by Imperial College. The following graphic shows how scientists are trying to produce a vaccine. Separate funding was announced for a UK vaccine manufacturing capacity - the Vaccines Manufacturing and Innovation Centre - in Oxford. This will be able to manufacture a range of vaccines depending on what works. Despite the findings, there is still “cautious optimism” about the Oxford vaccine among some experts. “The most important finding to me is the combination of considerable efficacy in terms of viral load and subsequent pneumonia, but no evidence of immune-enhanced disease,” said Stephen Evans, Professor of Pharmacoepidemiology, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. “It is encouraging to see these results and suggests cautious optimism for the Oxford vaccine trial being done in humans.” Dr Penny Ward, a visiting professor in pharmaceutical medicine at King's College London, added: “Single doses of the vaccine produced high quantities of neutralizing antibody in both species. “It is helpful to see that monkeys vaccinated with this Sars-CoV-2 vaccine did not have any evidence of enhanced lung pathology and that, despite some evidence of upper respiratory tract infection by Sars-Cov-2 after high viral load virus challenge, monkeys given the vaccine did not have any evidence of pneumonia.”

you need to look at the relative numbers in Australia versus the UK...those are the on ground facts ...if you ignore them then who requires psychiatric analysis ??

It pains me to agre with Fyg but on this occassion he is correct...locking down Australia's bordersand calling a pandemic before the WHO was the most important thing done at an early stage to limit corona infection in Oz,,by a CONSERVATIVE Government of course The Labor party would likely have kept the borders open to assuage their Chinese donors

great for U tapao flights ...should see the region grow significantly

Turnips dont seem too

probably longer than your reflexic brain dead behaviour

Always interesting is this bloke

the laughs just keep on coming

dkslyxzics are us

the R is increasing scarily

Is there a case for compulsory isolation ie jail for fuckwits ?It must be getting close

fucking hell...darwinism...but it affects all of us ...what the hell do you do ,,,exasperrated....

Khan cannot look beyond the leftish agenda...I ouldnt scape him off my shoe untili came across a steaming pile

dang ..I dont know whether Mohammed will wait for me

good data ...now just think this has happened in many western european country,the US ,Russia Canada,Brazil etc etc Iran is into its 2nd wave now

Yeah we got that too...its called The House of Commons

fair enough mate ...personal experience .either positive or negative will inevitably colour an individuals perspective and I'm delighted you were well served..but it is anectodal evidence Scientific data at a population level however suggests the NHS lags behind other comparable countries in terms of health outcomes I wish it were not so ,but you have to follow the evidence painful though that may be because it challenges our preconceptions That is why we have comapative studies to find this shit out because there is no way to evaluate it if you go by personal experience alone in small numbers ...widespread community evaluation is required If the NHS was the best in class by evidence dont you think the pollies would be broadcasting it?They havn't ,never have, for fear of being called out.So they dress it up as NHS heros ..which they are of course, but those workers are unwittingly a political tool for a substandard health system Its a very sad and untruthful state of affairs

That is not an appropriate comment,its anecdotal and it flys in the face of the medical evidence about outcomes well before Covid...it could and should be better in the UK but its the system, not the lack of will, nor the quality of its medical staff (whom are some of the best in the world) which mandates mediocre performance compared to 1st world norms

praps stop posting 🤣

Understood mate,when this has all blown over it would be great to spend a few hours with you and yours with me and mine ..all the best

Hatty jacques's are definitely required in nursing