Think maybe people are coming at from different angles at well.
Me personally, nothing against Secrets or Secrets posters, how could I, I've never been there, don't use the forum. Don't know the vast majority of posters, just names to me.
Appreciate many have had great times in the bar and forum, but i'm just bored to tears with the 'love in' here for it from posters from there, hence being delighted it's still open. This is 24/7, not Secrets2. It's still there, go and have your 'love in' there ffs.
And yes I appreciate i'm posting on a thread about it, but as said, I normally don't open them, but seeing the update on the thread title that it was staying open, certainly peaked my interest so I clicked on it,, and the posts since last night have been, shall we say, 'interesting'