Butch Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Given the huge amount of choice in the budget range of tyres (I'll stick to the UK spelling if that's ok) nowadays,have any BM's abandoned their normal choice and opted for a cheaper brand from China?. Or have you decided that there's no point paying for a Pirelli when a Hankook or Avon will do?. There are some truly horrific and poor quality brands out there these days (Linglong, Acellera, Maxxis to name but a few) which are often 1/4 the price of the Premium equivalent. Personally, I've always stuck to mid range or premium brands if there's a deal on. Our cars in the UK currently run Pirelli's on the wifes, GoodYear on my daily car and Bridgestone on my Classic. Our Fortuner in the Philippines runs Bridgestones as well. Over the years I've used several brands, but find that Good Year offer a decent tyre at a good price point. I've tried Pirelli on our old mazda but they cracked , so replaced with Uniroyal, which is a good mid range tyre. I'll stick to a mid range, even if the car is just used around town. I can't bring myself to use a budget branded tyre , probably, in part, due to brand snobbery on my account. I've noticed that dealers these days offer cars with "4 brand new tyres", and when you look, they're the cheapest crappiest option they could have got their hands on (which is understandable from a financial perspective). When a set of 4 tyres for the same car can cost between £250 for budget up to £800 for premium, that's quite a big price difference. My personal premium choice would be Michelin , mid range would be Hankook or Bridgestone , high end "budget" maybe Kumho, Toyo or Semperit. Edited November 29, 2023 by Butch 1
Pumpuynarak Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Tires are such an important part of your vehicle that i always buy high quality, Pirelli or Bridgestone is my choice. 5
Yesitisdakid Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Guys from the US will remember Pep Boys auto parts. I would buy their 4 for 99 dollar tires back in the day 125.00 mounted balanced and installed. They were a Yugoslavian tire. they worked great for me and i commuted 150 miles RT daily. 1 1
Doug Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Tires on new cars generally are called mileage saver and have less weight for better gas milage (also less tread). Expect to get about 50k kilometers or less on them. They are cheaper for the car company. If you want quiet tires then name brand are generally going to be better. I get Michelin (130k km) for my nice car because if I break it down the cost of mounting/balancing and road hazard adds to the cost and I would have to pay those fees twice with cheap tires on a car I drive quite a bit and they ride nice. I have another car I don't drive much and on those I buy the cheap tires with a 65k kilometer tread life and they have been great just a bit louder. I have heard that cheaper tires use less natural rubber and that is what can make them louder. I have heard of people when buying a new car negotiating to get better tires to close the deal. Larry - It's been a while since you bought a car tire as I just bought one on sale at Walmart for $53 and it was their cheapest size tire. With mounting, balancing and tax it was $77 usd. The brand is "Douglas Tire" and they've been great so far. 1 1
Doug Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 I wish I could get 4 tires for $100. I would bet if I went to a used tire place I couldn't get that price anymore. Things have changed in the US over the last 20+ years. 2
Yessongs Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Back home, Pirelli's for my Lexus SUV, here in Bangkok, Goodyears for the Honda SUV. Both good choices I think. 3 1
coxyhog Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) My previous two cars were both low mileage one owner MB's when I got them & I always stuck with the make that was on them when I acquired them.First car was a CLK320CDI Sport which I had for 5 years & the second an E500 Sport which I had for 12,both of which I did some serious miles in(including 155mph on the A bahn with a front that had a plug repair) & never had any problems.Now I have an Audi I'll probably do the same. Always use Blackcircles here in the UK. Edited December 10, 2023 by coxyhog 2
Butch Posted December 12, 2023 Author Posted December 12, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 4:53 PM, coxyhog said: My previous two cars were both low mileage one owner MB's when I got them & I always stuck with the make that was on them when I acquired them.First car was a CLK320CDI Sport which I had for 5 years & the second an E500 Sport which I had for 12,both of which I did some serious miles in(including 155mph on the A bahn with a front that had a plug repair) & never had any problems.Now I have an Audi I'll probably do the same. Always use Blackcircles here in the UK. Yep, blackcircles or Camskill are my "go to" for tyres. both very competitive and offer local fitting at a time to suit me. 1
forcebwithu Posted October 30 Posted October 30 After 4 years and 9,200km on the original tires it was time to buy a new set for my Aerox 155. Went with Pirelli Angels @ 4,850B. Noticed right away a difference in the bike's handling compared to the originals they replaced. Any slight turn I made the tires felt like they were grabbing into the turn. I'm guessing that's because of the softer, grippier tread that I'm not used to. Too early to tell for sure, but I expect going with the premium tire will be money well spent during the rainy days. 2
SteveBC Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, forcebwithu said: After 4 years and 9,200km on the original tires it was time to buy a new set for my Aerox 155. Went with Pirelli Angels @ 4,850B. Noticed right away a difference in the bike's handling compared to the originals they replaced. Any slight turn I made the tires felt like they were grabbing into the turn. I'm guessing that's because of the softer, grippier tread that I'm not used to. Too early to tell for sure, but I expect going with the premium tire will be money well spent during the rainy days. Fit new tyres to any motorbike or scooter and it will always feel very different, mainly in entering a corner, as the new tyres have the rounded profile again and not the 'flat' center as the worn ones. 4 1 1
Laawman Posted October 30 Posted October 30 47 minutes ago, SteveBC said: Fit new tyres to any motorbike or scooter and it will always feel very different, mainly in entering a corner, as the new tyres have the rounded profile again and not the 'flat' center as the worn ones. Agreed. I will soon be swapping the Fujiyama Flash tyres on my 300 for a pair of Dunlop Sportsmaxx - so the difference will be quite interesting especially as the originals are 6 yrs old! 1
Yesitisdakid Posted October 30 Posted October 30 When I was in the states there was a chain of Auto parts places called pep boys they may still be around I'm unsure. They used to have a special and I used to put them on my truck all the time four tires mounted balanced and installed for $125. I used to without problem get 40 to 50,000 miles out of them my neighbor told me or asked me rather if I was aware they came from Yugoslavia. I told him I didn't care where they came from they served my purpose as far as I was concerned they could have been produced in bum#@ck Egypt. 2
thegrogmonster Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, SteveBC said: Fit new tyres to any motorbike or scooter and it will always feel very different, mainly in entering a corner, as the new tyres have the rounded profile again and not the 'flat' center as the worn ones. Just like my feet when I get a pedicure. 4
fygjam Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Pinched from this annoying YT vid, US centric. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnMcYMAT_KI 2
Butch Posted November 2 Author Posted November 2 (edited) 9 hours ago, fygjam said: Pinched from this annoying YT vid, US centric. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnMcYMAT_KI Interesting graphic but I can't see why they put Uniroyal in the lower tier. In the UK they're on par with most of the brands in Tier 2. As you say though, US Centric. Top tier makes sense, although Yokohama would be in there for my money. the presenter is an irritating c**t though. Edited November 2 by Butch
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