Jump to content

How do you activate your account.. ?

Before you can login, you must active your account by clicking on the link sent to your email address.

If you did not receive this email, please check your junk/spam folder. If you entered an incorrect email address, you will need to re-register with the correct email address.

If you are waiting to activate your account you can resent the activation e-mail or change your e-mail address.

Evil Penevil

Under 300 Baht ... And Mediocre

Recommended Posts

Not all the food in I try in Pattaya qualifies as good.  Mediocre dishes also abound under 300 baht, so I decided to start a thread about those meals.

But before we get going, I have to stress "mediocre" is not the same thing as "bad." Mediocre means "average or ordinary in quality; neither very good nor very bad." Generally speaking, a mediocre meal will be adequate, but not more.  One more time, so everyone understands: mediocre does not mean bad.  On the U.S. academic grading scale, a mediocre meal would get a "C" (average), with "A" superior; "B" good; "D" below average; and "F" failure.

 Another point to stress is that a good restaurant can serve an undistinguished dish while the rest of its menu is much better. One mediocre dish does not a mediocre restaurant make, much less a bad restaurant.

So with the notes of explanation out of the way, feel free to share the details of meals in Pattaya that were notable only for their mediocrity, no matter in which restaurant you had them. It doesn't necessarily have to be farang food.  It can be Thai, Indian, Japanese, Chinese, whatever.   Thanks!

Untitled-2.jpg.dc35c72bc8523f2b3de9555490c7fe30.jpg

I used the Eatigo discount (50% at 1.30 p.m.) to have lunch the other day at the Garden Cafe at the Avani Hotel on 2nd Road. I had been tempted by the "Recommended Menu" selections on Eatigo, but none of the dishes I wanted to try were available on the limited lunch menu.  I chose Lamb Rogan Josh at 350 baht as the best option.  it came with basmati rice; tiny pieces of naan bread; a tiny dish of chutney, unknown flavor; and an equally small dish of a super-salty pickled vegetable.

IMG_0008.jpg.7b998d8c215bb90f53862f39d0e09757.jpg

I'm not a portion fanatic, but the serving of lamb rogan josh was small even by my standards,  You can use the fork in the pic for a sense of scale. It was a large plat, but it didn't have much food on it. It wasn't value-for-money even with a 50% discount.

IMG_0010.jpg.c4be298be572eae58136347b3936e20b.jpg

The aromatic sauce was great, but a couple of the chunks of lamb hadn't had the fat trimmed properly and were gristly. To me, unrendered lamb fat is gamy and inedible. On the whole, it was a mediocre dish, despite the sauce. The menu price doesn't include VAT and service, so the real cost was 205 baht.  The cheapest bottle of mineral water was 80 baht, bringing the total cost of the meal to 299 baht. To be fair, Eatigo makes clear the menu prices are ++.

The interior of the Garden Cafe is very nice, but I was the only person eating there.

IMG_0011.jpg.ccb194e6410c194b8ae1d8a446a6a559.jpg

IMG_0012.jpg.553ca44af6d2e054ec3c49292f081f92.jpg

 

IMG_20180927_134515.jpg.81bc9cb113c2e1ac501f44d166dec2ba.jpg

There's also an extensive outdoor eating area and its own herb garden.  I saw one of the cooks snipping fresh herbs.  Service was friendly and attentive.

IMG_0017.jpg.8792b430baaa4db2f2b5f533b163b55a.jpg

IMG_0016.jpg.cccd82aef5f7b77c6bb9342947e59b15.jpg

Untitled-1.jpg.75ccc4b19cdcaa7bf85083ca4b4b66dd.jpg

Bottom line:  You have the potential for an excellent dining experience at the Garden Cafe, but the Lamb Rogan Josh was only mediocre.  I expected better at the Garden Cafe.

Evil

 

 

Edited by Evil Penevil
  • Thanks 2
  • Thumbs Up 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I had the American Breakfast at Retox Game On at the beginning of the week.  The normal price was 179 baht, but I got it on the Eatigo 50% discount for 90 baht at 7.30 a.m. Sadly, it wasn't a very cheerful start to the day.

Things turned negative as soon as I showed the waitress my cell phone screen with the Eatigo confirmation code. She claimed it wasn't valid because it didn't include the date.  I tried to explain that the confirmation code indicated "Today," as it always does when you make a reservation the same day you eat.  She insisted the Eatigo confirmation message had to show the date in numerical form.   

I kept my voice calm and my tone polite, yet nothing I said had any effect on her. I showed her the app and how it worked, even offered to make a new reservation in front of her eyes, but she just shook her head "no."  I was about to ask for the manager when she grabbed my phone and scurried off with it.  I was NOT pleased she'd done that, but I figured she was taking it to show someone for a final decision. She came back in a few minutes, returned my phone and asked what I wanted to eat like nothing had happened. Weird and unprofessional behavior, but I let it ride.  It's one more example of failure to communicate and nothing to harp on with her after the fact, although I did have a few frustrating moments.

Retox' American breakfast consisted of two fried eggs; two small pancakes;  two slices of streaky bacon; a mystery meat sausage; and what the menu called maple syrup and hash browns.  It also came with two slices of toast; two pats of butter;  a small glass of orange drink; and a choice of coffee or tea.  

IMG_0296.jpg.ea98ff71f0a23c3e687faf89229004b7.jpg

The pancakes and streaky bacon were the two best items on the plate. The bacon had a strong smoky and salty flavor that's typical for the U.S., while the pancakes were light and fluffy if a bit thick. The coffee was good, too. 

IMG_0293.jpg.31ea64b6724179e628d1ff2ce00e1a4e.jpg

IMG_0291.jpg.9e9b27863ac35df351f7af29da990019.jpg

On the other hand, the eggs were overcooked for my taste and the formed-meat sausage and fried potatoes were inedible. The sausage had a horrid hot-dog-like smooth texture and the potatoes were greasy and mushy. The pancake syrup was about as far from the sap of the sugar maple tree as the forests of Vermont are from the cane fields of Chonburi province.

IMG_0297.jpg.e11d9067bdb954befaa39d42ee3f4757.jpg

Bottom line:  It was a mediocre breakfast and that's being generous considering the hassle with the waitress. It reminded me why I seldom bother with a Western breakfast in Pattaya. I'm not expecting heaven on a plate for 90 baht, but I do expect better than I got.

One point for which I give Retox kudos is that the menu prices are not ++.  Service and VAT were included the 179-baht price and the Eatigo discount reflected this.

IMG_0292.jpg.eb7255030397cbe5231fd873abeb05df.jpg

Evil

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Evil, for the Retox case I admire your patience, personally I would have just told the waitress to F.O. and then have the place massacred on social media.

Unprofessional behaviour is unacceptable in F & B .

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, Thai Spice said:

Evil, for the Retox case I admire your patience, personally I would have just told the waitress to F.O. and then have the place massacred on social media.

Unprofessional behaviour is unacceptable in F & B .

I've found patience to be a virtue when dealing with Thai waitresses as most often any problems are caused by her failure to understand me or my failure to understand her. Very, very seldom has a hassle been the result of ill will on the Thai's part.

Evil

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some earlier reports of mediocre restaurant meals:

IMG_0271.jpg.f7a7044b08a47c2bbdacdf13996

 

The fixed plate roast chicken dinner at the Robin Hood Tavern for 199 baht rates a "C," with one component on the plate scoring an "A," two failing miserably and the rest average. 

 

 

IMG_0276.jpg.bcb21932fdfa26e94fd08df7a80

 

I give the roast chicken an "A" because it was a generous portion of juicy and tasty chicken.  

 

IMG_0271a.jpg.97ce7ae633c56724f77dfe6382

 

IMG_0273.jpg.91f1a832c59b2540f57fe6b771b

The Yorkshire pudding and bacon-wrapped sausage were inedible, so they get "Fs."  The Robin Hood also has a carvery buffet for 299 baht and I believe the Yorkshire and the sausage had stood on heating trays for a long time and the plate had been rewarmed in a microwave or oven before serving.  The Yorkshire was burnt on the outside, tough as leather inside.  The bacon around the sausage was so hard it couldn't be chewed.  The vegetables and potatoes were OK, but nothing special, the definition of mediocre.  A possible upside for some diners is that there was a lot of food on the plate.  The downside was that except for the chicken, it was mediocre or bad food. 

The Robin Hood Tavern is located on the  first upper level of The Avenue on 2nd Road.  

IMG_0254.jpg.40ff3fe61eb7238fe8975e528d4

 

Take Away is a restaurant on Soi Bukhao, close to the subsoi that connects New Plaza with Bukhao.  It's menu aims it clearly at visitors from the U.K. as it's heavy on what can be considered British comfort food.

IMG_0244.jpg.943590ecb4231ab2ca6bbbaa9bc

Prices aren't exactly cheap, but they are reasonable and every item on the menu is under 300 baht, with most under 200 baht.

IMG_0241.jpg.1a606d3b1ace9ebf7cfb583169e

 

You order and pay at the counter, but the food is carried to the tables by the waitress.

IMG_0243.jpg.acaef62c08d088287b42c76d6ca

I tried the spaghetti Bolognese for 180 baht. Maybe that was a bad choice on my part.  If I eat there again, I'll pick something more British.

IMG_0247.jpg.65edd838e6a55fbd483c5917b85

Basically, it was a bland ground beef sauce dumped on top of overcooked pasta.  There was no Italian seasoning and very little tomato in what was supposed to be a Bolognese sauce. Mediocre is the best I can rate it.  The garlic bread was actually the tastiest part of the meal.

IMG_0252.jpg.c945f027ec9426fbb1e8a3553d7

 

Lee's Diner has been operating eight years in the Pattaya restaurant shark pool, which is a longer run than many get. 

IMG_0295.jpg.9d8e2e5175a9e736425093653751e872.jpg

It's located on Soi Diana near the intersection with LK Metro and dishes up Thai and farang food 24/7.

IMG_0293.jpg.65110b7a443c4961f82d54bb6d7

It's clean and well-lit, which are definitely positive factors in my eyes.  A serious downside factor is that there's no wall between Lee's and the neighboring bar that features a live band blaring the usual numbers at ear-splitting levels. 

IMG_0291.jpg.96a7fd1136db93dbea50fe30857

What the band lacks in quality it makes up in volume. There is no way I could ever eat a meal with that deafening racket in the background, but the band knocks off at 2 a.m. and that's when I tried Lee's recently.  I had eaten at Lee's in years past, but hadn't gone back much because I found the food, well, ... mediocre.

IMG_0289.jpg.4d851095b141a6e979eec3ac657

There was nothing about the beef with oyster sauce I had at 160 baht that caused me to change that opinion. 

IMG_0290.jpg.765a2807b78f5c50bcc333ad3f8

It was bland and heavy on the vegetables but light on the beef, also a bit oily.  On the positive side, the ingredients seemed fresh and the beef wasn't tough.  Everything considered, it fit comfortably in the realm of mediocrity.

IMG_0292.jpg.ae65a0b8afb55d9510a6a33843c

 

Evil

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good report @Evil Penevil

Yes your spot on with the yorkshire's its always the case even here in the uk it happens often with such places as that are never made to order and just kept warm.

I'm not going to go into it too much but i think the flour is not the same as back here in the uk.

The yorkshire's in Thailand always seam heavy on the bottom making an omelet type of yorkshire pudding.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
On 9/30/2018 at 1:39 PM, Lanzalad said:
Good report [mention=159]Evil Penevil[/mention]
Yes your spot on with the yorkshire's its always the case even here in the uk it happens often with such places as that are never made to order and just kept warm.
I'm not going to go into it too much but i think the flour is not the same as back here in the uk.
The yorkshire's in Thailand always seam heavy on the bottom making an omelet type of yorkshire pudding.

My mom always said a hot oven was the key to good Yorkshires. The batter has to be poured into smoking hot fat in the tray, then immediately into an equally hot oven. She'd set a timer for 20 minutes, then determine by sight through the oven window the moment they were to come out. I doubt many restaurants in Pattaya would go to such lengths repeatedly over the course of a Sunday.

And as you say, the flour used makes a difference. Thailand doesn't produce wheat, but some flour is milled here from imported wheat. I wonder if it comes out the same as Western flour?

Sent from my Sunny2 Plus using Tapatalk
 

Edited by Evil Penevil

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Loving this thread Robb, thanks for starting it, my Yorkshire cooked same as your mum's,  except I always add a desert spoon of vinegar in mine.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wish I could have included the Chunky Monkey's 99-baht spaghetti bolognese special of the day in the "Under 300 Baht ... And Good!" thread, but it just didn't make the grade. 

IMG_0094.jpg.a5a44dbaa5958afb1a90523e866d0e64.jpg

What I got was tasteless sauteed ground beef dumped on top of a plate of spaghetti.  There was no real sauce and no seasoning at all, Italian or otherwise.

IMG_0099.jpg.37c4dd04987b2c9eeafb89e9e4720d2a.jpg

 Some pieces of onion and garlic and maybe a spoonful of tomato puree had been added to the beef, but in such a small quantity and cooked for such a short time they didn't add any flavor.  The watery liquid wasn't a sauce.  Even the little dish of grated Parmesan cheese from a package was flavorless.

IMG_0098.jpg.af87d184e38f2be446b0c58122144132.jpg

If there were an Olympics of Blandness for restaurant food, this would be a gold medal winner. But as standard restaurant fare, it ranks no higher than mediocre.   For 99 baht, I'm not expecting the best spaghetti in town, but it should at least have a proper sauce with an Italian flavor.  

The Chunky Monkey (on Soi Buakhao across from Tree Town) ...

IMG_00693.jpg.0e7b669d517b45e96e96bb70cbd7fcce.jpg

has been open about three weeks and has already established itself as one of the more popular eateries in the area.  I certainly wish it well, but I hope the spaghetti bolognese will improve.  I've only eaten there twice and so far the Chunky Monkey is batting 50-50 with me: one good meal, one mediocre.  You can read about the good meal here (post #25).

Bottom line:  The mediocre spaghetti special won't deter me from returning to the Chunky Monkey.

Evil

Edited by Evil Penevil
  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I haven't had much luck at the Chunky Monkey.  I tried the 99-baht daily special yesterday- chicken rissoles with onion gravy and mashed potatoes- and it was as bland as, well, unseasoned chicken.

 IMG_0105.jpg.4da0a44a82a8edfc01372081c4a16737.jpg

 The only flavor came from the thick, glutenous package gravy to which a few bits of onion had been added.  The chicken patty itself was totally lacking in any sort of seasoning and consequently, no taste either.

IMG_0108.jpg.06e8859cc320984c2e3732cc65f80250.jpg

On the plus side, the mash was good and the patty had been cooked properly.  It wasn't dry inside, but it had an extremely smooth texture, though, which gave it a weird mouth feel.  The rissoles would have been much helped by the addition of diced onion, garlic, carrot, green pepper, whatever, but most of all it needed herbs or spices.  There are dozens of variations to Australian-style rissoles.  There's no one right recipe, but there is a wrong way.  I scraped off the icky gravy and gave the rissoles a few splashes of HP Sauce from the condiment basket.  That improved them, but it didn't make them good.

IMG_0109a.jpg.bfec97015f558178436890af77a51432.jpg

Bottom line: The Chunky Monkey now has two strikes against it in my book.  In the near future, I'll try either the Sunday roast or the meatloaf dinner.  A third strike will put it out for me as a dining option for quite awhile.

That's unfortunate,  as it has a convenient location and an enclosed air-conditioned dining area. It's well-lit, clean and spacious, with the background music played at a blessedly low volume and friendly service. Not many budget restaurants in Pattaya tick all those boxes. 

The prices for bottled beer are very low (55 baht for Leo and Chang, 65 baht for SML) and big bottles cost 79 baht.  Perhaps that will be enough to attract customers who aren't concerned about bland food. However, the cocktail van across the street could give it a run for the money.

IMG_0111.jpg.2d8540385c8326fe5ed58c7502eab01e.jpg

IMG_0116.jpg.c8912ea9833ea34d8a2218d8072d826b.jpg

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

×