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40 minutes ago, Glasseye said:

 

Yep, be careful with stopping meds completely. 

What kind of b.p. monitor are you using ?

It could actually be a sign that you are getting "in shape". When you are physically active over a period of time b.p. often improves. It may be that your body is actually getting healthier.

I am trying to look at the positvie side of it. I am sure the whole event has been worrisome for you.

I am planning on dropping my b.p. meds soon. The pharmacist said I should cut down first before stopping completely. Taper down.

I am. Using a Kinetic Machine, it’s approved by St John’s ambulance so has to be okay 👍 

Actually, now I discovered the reason behind my health problems, and not having to work, I might stop completely and spend every day getting wrecked, watching Star Wars figures have fights.

😂

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31 minutes ago, galenkia said:

I am. Using a Kinetic Machine, it’s approved by St John’s ambulance so has to be okay 👍 

Actually, now I discovered the reason behind my health problems, and not having to work, I might stop completely and spend every day getting wrecked, watching Star Wars figures have fights.

😂

 

When I was 13 I once had a Chinese style dragon slivering up my stomach and chest. It was vivid and in full color, as detailed as any painting I had ever seen.

I have no idea to this day what caused such a thing.    :default_acute:

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6 hours ago, galenkia said:

Just had a shower and shave and shampoo.

just taken my blood pressure as well.

112/81 so that’s pretty ideal I guess.

 I will miss the fighting Jedi .😂

Can't ask for much better than that mate !

 

 

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3 hours ago, Glasseye said:

Can't ask for much better than that mate !

 

 

Was just taking my BP when I started reading your post. The BP is indeed a good one, mine is presently 117/75, so I am also happy.

Back to the gym tomorrow for the first time in about 18 months. Been doing over 8000 steps a day but felt, after Christmas, that I wanted to tone and lose a bit extra. The gym is a leisure centre, so has a pool as well. Paid the joining fee today and was hoping to start exercise, but I have to do, either a trainer assisted induction (health and safety) or watch some videos online. No trainers available for a few hours so home to watch the videos and return tomorrow.

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4 minutes ago, Horizondave said:

Was just taking my BP when I started reading your post. The BP is indeed a good one, mine is presently 117/75, so I am also happy.

Back to the gym tomorrow for the first time in about 18 months. Been doing over 8000 steps a day but felt, after Christmas, that I wanted to tone and lose a bit extra. The gym is a leisure centre, so has a pool as well. Paid the joining fee today and was hoping to start exercise, but I have to do, either a trainer assisted induction (health and safety) or watch some videos online. No trainers available for a few hours so home to watch the videos and return tomorrow.

 

It's a process. The "trainers" can be helpful if you are unfamiliar with the equipment and the settings/layout of the gym. Familarize yourself with everything. Try to schedule your workouts at a less busy time of day.

Gyms can be hazardous places, respect other peoples space. Learn and follow proper gym ettiqutte, be flexible with your sets  and routine. Approach each set with form and approach to the set (check equipment is properly adjusted before doing the lift, be aware of things that you can trip over, etc.).

If using dumbells use careful motions when returning equipment (it is easy to twist your back when not using proper motions). 

Plan a simple routine, but stick with it. Over time you will learn different things that enables you to work different muscles and movements. 

Once you enter that door focus on what you are doing. Don't hog a machine or stand around talking with someone for ten minutes. Keep it basic and simple, stay safe and then get out of there for a walk back home.

Figure that any workout is going to take about two hours (including prep time, travelling to/from, cardio and lifting). 

 

*** sorry if you already know what I just wrote above. I went longer than 18 months on my last lay off. I kind of went through a relearning period. Back in the groove now, and enjoying the progress. Really makes a difference in how the day goes by.

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54 minutes ago, Horizondave said:

Was just taking my BP when I started reading your post. The BP is indeed a good one, mine is presently 117/75, so I am also happy.

Back to the gym tomorrow for the first time in about 18 months. Been doing over 8000 steps a day but felt, after Christmas, that I wanted to tone and lose a bit extra. The gym is a leisure centre, so has a pool as well. Paid the joining fee today and was hoping to start exercise, but I have to do, either a trainer assisted induction (health and safety) or watch some videos online. No trainers available for a few hours so home to watch the videos and return tomorrow.

I go by calorie intake rather than steps, aim for 300 calories a day, which is over 10,000.

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I'm on a 10 week no alcohol health drive. 10 weeks is a school term so can end with a short holiday from  10 March.

Harder than the no alcohol is an aim to lose 4kg. Doesn't seem that much but...... 

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1 hour ago, Zambo said:

I'm on a 10 week no alcohol health drive. 10 weeks is a school term so can end with a short holiday from  10 March.

Harder than the no alcohol is an aim to lose 4kg. Doesn't seem that much but...... 

All the best with the that mate 👍

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28 minutes ago, galenkia said:

All the best with the that mate 👍

Roughly nine pounds in 2.5 months. Reasonably doable.

Keep in mind that if you are excercising more during that period (especially some kind of muscle strengthening) you may add muscle weight, while losing body fat.

So, don't let the scale discourage you. In fact I would recommend not even getting on one. Use your belt notches as the measurment of progress. I am down four notches since getting back with the program. Soon I will have to get the ice pick out to bore another hole.

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Some good info. here regarding magnesium supps. (and supps in general). I avoid all of them. They can really throw you out of whack !

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/11/13/magneisum-supplement-migraines-fatigue-depression/

 

Should I take a magnesium supplement? Here’s what the science says.

There are some cases when a person might benefit from a magnesium supplement, but most of us can get the right amount from food sources

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Q: I’ve heard that magnesium might be related to fatigue and mood symptoms. Should I start taking supplements?

A: The data on taking a magnesium supplement is underwhelming for some of the purported benefits popularized on social media, including taking magnesium for fatigue and mood symptoms. There are few clear circumstances where magnesium supplementation is warranted, but it’s hard for a doctor like me to give magnesium supplementation an unconditional stamp of approval.

 

Here is an alternative I can gladly endorse: Eat more magnesium-rich foods. That way, you’ll get the boost of magnesium as well as the other natural benefits of these foods.

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What does magnesium do for the body?

Magnesium is an essential ion contained in every cell in our body. We rely on magnesium for many important cellular functions including metabolism, transportation across the cell membranes, and binding hormones.

 

Can I take a daily magnesium supplement if I’m healthy?

It becomes tricky when relatively healthy people start taking magnesium supplements. Although too much magnesium can be toxic to your body, taking low levels — less than 350 mg daily — probably won’t cause any harm unless you have kidney disease. But it may not do any good either.

It’s important to discuss starting magnesium supplementation with your physician. People with kidney disease may have a harder time getting rid of excess magnesium taken as supplements. Signs of a magnesium overdose include hypotension, poor reflexes, and changes to your heart rhythm.

 
 

 

What are magnesium supplements good for?

Here are some areas where we know magnesium supplementation can be beneficial and some areas where there might be a benefit, but the evidence isn’t as strong:

Mild constipation: A well-known side effect of these supplements is diarrhea, and so I confidently recommend certain magnesium formulations for my patients with mild constipation.

Preeclampsia and other serious conditions in the hospital: When magnesium is given intravenously to patients with preeclampsia, it more than halves the risk of developing eclampsia. However, in these scenarios, the magnesium would be administered by your health-care team in the hospital. Similarly, there are certain critical cardiac arrhythmias, like torsades de pointes, where intravenous magnesium might be given by your health-care team.

Migraines: The randomized trials on oral magnesium supplements here are mixed but trend positive, although the data overall are fairly limited. If you still want to give magnesium a try, increasing the amount of magnesium-rich foods in your daily diet is still likely a better route here.

Mood disorders: A 2016 study found that people with mild to moderate depression who took magnesium supplements for six weeks reported improved mood compared to those who didn’t. However, this study was not blinded, nor placebo controlled, and we don’t have high-quality trials showing a benefit of magnesium for symptoms of anxiety. My advice? Discuss your symptoms with a provider, as psychotherapy and medication are still the options with the strongest evidence to help.

High blood sugar: Increased consumption of magnesium-rich foods is associated with a lower risk of type II diabetes, however, according to the American Diabetes Association, there’s insufficient evidence that magnesium supplements help lower blood sugar in people with diabetes.

High blood pressure: Multiple studies have confirmed that magnesium supplementation will lower blood pressure, but the effect size isn’t profound (on average, a 2.2 mmHg reduction in diastolic blood pressure). It’s worthwhile discussing more effective strategies to lower blood pressure with your physician, keeping in mind that increased dietary magnesium is associated with a lower risk of cardiovascular disease.

Other areas where there’s even less evidence for magnesium supplements are insomnia, leg cramps and dementia.

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I very interesting piece relating to MS and other genetic factors....

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2024/01/10/ancient-dna-multiple-sclerosis-european-ancestry/?wpisrc=nl_the7

 

Ancient DNA helps trace multiple sclerosis origins in European descendants

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Five thousand years ago, sheep and cattle herders migrated westward from Asia to Europe, bringing with them their pastoral way of life — and higher genetic risk for multiple sclerosis, according to a new study of DNA from thousands of ancient and present-day people.

 

The finding answers a long-standing conundrum in medical science: Why is this debilitating autoimmune disease most common in people from northern Europe? The research also recasts the modern-day illness, suggesting it is rooted in an evolutionary trade-off.

 

Multiple sclerosis is a neurological disease in which a person’s normally protective immune system turns on their nervous system. Thousands of years ago, when people began living in proximity to livestock and their germs, variants of genes related to immunity began to give people an evolutionary edge, possibly because they helped bolster defenses against an onslaught of infections and parasites carried by their animals.

But genes don’t do just one thing. In a prehistoric world filled with infectious perils, a potent immune response could mean the difference between life and death. Thousands of years later, those same gene variants also happen to increase their descendants’ risk of the haywire immune response in MS.

For years, researchers have debated the “hygiene hypothesis,” the idea that asthma or allergies may be a consequence of modern life being too clean to allow the immune system to develop. The new paper unpacks in detail how variants of specific immune-related genes instead became more common because they gave people an evolutionary advantage thousands of years ago.

“What has been honed for 5,000 years and refined in our evolution — that’s basically what we are trying to battle today,” said Lars Fugger, a professor of neuroimmunology at the University of Oxford who cares for MS patients, and one of the authors of the paper. “So it’s no mystery that it’s difficult to treat.”

The study, one of four published in the journal Nature on Wednesday, is part of a larger effort to analyze DNA recovered from ancient human remains and unravel the origin and evolution of various traits and disease risks. The authors also found, for example, that a version of a gene called APOE4 that increases risk for Alzheimer’s disease was probably introduced into the European population from hunter-gatherers.

“Processes that were occurring many thousands of years ago are having these really pronounced and profound effects on the health and longevity of people in the present,” said Evan Irving-Pease, a study author and assistant professor of population genetics at the University of Copenhagen.

 
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Ancient DNA as a window into disease

Analysis of ancient DNA extracted from bones or teeth has rewritten our understanding of human prehistory, yielding new insights into the waves of migrations that led to modern populations. Researchers already knew, for instance, that the modern-day European population was shaped by three key waves of migration: hunter-gatherers who moved into the region 45,000 years ago, farmers who came from the Middle East about 11,000 years ago and animal herders who migrated from the Pontic Steppe, grasslands that extend from Central Europe to Central Asia, about 5,000 years ago.

But ancient DNA’s potential to transform understanding of human biology has been limited, so far, by the lack of DNA from enough samples, said David Reich, a geneticist who studies ancient DNA at Harvard University and was not involved in the new studies.

For their latest work, the scientists analyzed DNA from more than 300 individuals, a third of them from Denmark, who lived between 25,700 years ago and 1,200 years ago. They included a father buried next to his infant son, a hunter-gatherer called Dragsholm Man, who had adopted the diet of immigrant farmers, and the Porsmose Man, discovered in a bog with an arrow through his nose and breastbone. Combining that data with previously sequenced ancient samples, they created a database of 1,600 ancient genomes from across Eurasia.

The goal is to create a database of 5,000 ancient genomes that will help scientists look for the roots and spread of disease risk, said Eske Willerslev, an evolutionary geneticist at the University of Cambridge and a leader of the project.

So far, the ancient DNA reveals that key traits such as height, and disease risks, evolved first outside Europe and were imported into the population by those multiple waves of migration.

“In terms of our disease susceptibility and in terms of how we look, are very much created through these migration events,” Willerslev said.

 

The multiple sclerosis mystery

Multiple sclerosis is a complex disease, caused by a combination of environmental and genetic factors that are still only partly understood. But Lawrence Steinman, a neurologist at Stanford Medicine who was not involved in the research, said that the new paper presents a fascinating and provocative line of evidence tracing genetic risk back to ancient populations.

“MS is generally not going to affect you until you’re a young adult, so you would have been able to propagate and increase the population and have offspring before you have the manifestations of MS — and those genes may give an advantage against certain infections,” Steinman said.

The idea that infectious diseases helped shape human evolution is not new, but the researchers said they were still surprised to observe such a clear signal that the MS risk genes had been “positively selected” — meaning that they increased in frequency because they provided an evolutionary advantage.

But Samira Asgari, a computational biologist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai who is focused on understanding the human genetics of infection and immunity, said the specific advantage the papers propose — greater protection against infection — is a reasonable explanation, but still a hypothesis.

“That’s the part more research is needed to prove,” Asgari said.

The researchers have another paper that is not yet peer-reviewed showing an explosion in pathogens that jump from animals to humans around 5,000 years ago, which they say could bolster the case that the pathogens surrounding early Europeans shaped their genetics.

“What we see consistently in the immune system is genes are being selected according to the pathogen challenges the populations are encountering, throughout time,” said Astrid Iversen, a professor of virology and immunology at the University of Oxford.

Multiple experts cautioned that getting a deeper understanding of the genetic roots of human illnesses won’t lead directly to new treatments, but they couldn’t it rule out, either.

“Understanding biology from different angles,” Asgari said, “can accelerate the move toward better drugs.”

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On 1/9/2024 at 11:35 PM, Krapow said:

Not sure if anyone's mentioned this at all yet, but would you ever think of calling 111, perchance?

 

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111, is a waste of time. You’ll die before someone answers and if they do, they tell you to visit your Gp. 🤬

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4 hours ago, KhunDon said:

111, is a waste of time. You’ll die before someone answers and if they do, they tell you to visit your Gp. 🤬

Not my experience TBH.

Answered quite quick, then was able to get me an in person appointment with my GP for the next morning. Saved me wakening at 8am, and constant calling, to get through the receptionists to get a telephone app.

Have also used it in work, have got people seen in their homes via 111.

Maybe depends what it is that's the medical issue.

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4 minutes ago, lazarus said:

Wow. Hard to find large shoes ("big size") in TH...

I never had any luck (finding size 13).

Yeah they had 1 pair size 11....not exactly the color scheme I liked but....

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4 hours ago, Yessongs said:

You guys ever going into Sporting Goods Stores and tell yourself "I am NOT going to spend any money today, I do not care how much the discount is and even if it is a great price, I am NOT spending any money today"??? 

Well at The Mall Bangkapi yesterday that exact thing happened to wifey and I......as you can see, I failed miserably LOL! 

Got a new pair of Adidas Switch Run running shoes. They were 50% off....The best news was they had my size 11. Wifey bought some shit she didn't need either. 

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I've found that Robison's has a good selection of shoes, at least here in CM. I did not check for size 11's though... lol    Those are some big feet. I hope you have a good podiastrist lined up.     :default_getdown:

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