COVID 19 GLOBAL

[Bazle]

On 3/22/2021 at 9:36 AM, Krapow said:

There you go, can't blame on wanting to wait on their own trial results ...

Should be approved soon, if it doesn't get approved, then you maybe have a case, but it will. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56479462

Nope - more delay to allow US Big Pharma to take the big chunk of the pie:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/23/us-officials-question-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-trial

[Krapow]

48 minutes ago, Bazle said:

Nope - more delay to allow US Big Pharma to take the big chunk of the pie:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/23/us-officials-question-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-trial

Nope what, it won't be approved?

It will be approved.

Read about this earlier, they want the up to date info, not interim, AstraZeneca say they will release it in a day or two. 

Even the link i posted said it will take a month or two to get approved.

It will get approved.

[Krapow]

Just watched a news clip of Gibraltar, all vaccinated, life getting back to normal. Similar to Israel.

Vaccine dreamers, eh ...

[fygjam]

2 hours ago, Zeb said:

The Australian vaccine rollout is now proceeding at a rate of about 15,000 – 20,000 a day, about 25-30% of what is needed to get about 70% of the population vaccinated by the end of the year.

No one seems to have a clue what is going on.

Things might improve but even so, they’ve had over 6 months to work out the logistics. A huge fail, with no excuses. Not supply chain problems. Not the “pernicious” EU. Not the Floods.

Total cockup.

As health Minister Hunt said

Over promised, under delivered!

 

[fforest]

lol...

Get a COVID vaccine, and get a free Krispy Kreme doughnut every single day this year

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/get-a-covid-vaccine-and-get-a-free-krispy-kreme-doughnut-every-single-day-this-year-11616434547

[fforest]

4 hours ago, fforest said:

lol...

Get a COVID vaccine, and get a free Krispy Kreme doughnut every single day this year

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/get-a-covid-vaccine-and-get-a-free-krispy-kreme-doughnut-every-single-day-this-year-11616434547

I cant recall any other vaccine ever where people were being bribed into taking it....

And is Krispy Kreme going to be eating this loss of 10s ?  100s ? of thousands of doughnuts every single day?.........(No purchase is required)............I think not.....I bet they get fully reimbursed....

Edited March 24, 2021 by fforest

[Bazle]

9 hours ago, Krapow said:

Nope what, it won't be approved?

It will be approved.

Read about this earlier, they want the up to date info, not interim, AstraZeneca say they will release it in a day or two. 

Even the link i posted said it will take a month or two to get approved.

It will get approved

I was referring to the DELAY. 

[KhunDon]

16 hours ago, Krapow said:

Have to do 2 of these a week now, due to my work and not completely working from home. Well, anyone in England with kids at school 'should' is the terminology used, do 2 a week.

 

Dear ****************
Birth date **********
Test date: 23 March 2021

Your coronavirus lateral flow test result is negative. It’s likely you were not infectious when the test was done.

Keep following coronavirus advice including:

regular handwashing social distancing wearing a face covering where recommended

You only need to self-isolate if

My kid has two done each week at school and I ordered a couple of boxes (14) Lateral Flow tests from the .gov site and they turned up in the post 2 days later. 
Now I get to say to the wife “open your mouth wide” without getting slapped. 🤣

[lazarus]

4 hours ago, fforest said:

I cant recall any other vaccine ever where people were being bribed into taking it....

And is Krispy Kreme going to be eating this loss of 10s ?  100s ? of thousands of doughnuts every single day?.........(No purchase is required)............I think not.....I bet they get fully reimbursed....

That conspiracy theory has a big hole in it. 😉

[Krapow]

2 hours ago, Bazle said:

I was referring to the DELAY. 

You think it's unreasonable or some kind of conspiracy to ask for the most up to date info?

[Bazle]

3 minutes ago, Krapow said:

You think it's unreasonable or some kind of conspiracy to ask for the most up to date info?

Yes. 

[Krapow]

They read a bit of this on Newsnight last night, it thought it was profund, so had to search for it. It's an open letter to the UK sent by an Italian writer when the UK first went into lockdown, on what to expect, as Italy had already been in lockdown a few weeks. I can relate to quite a few things -

 

The acclaimed Italian novelist Francesca Melandri, who has been under lockdown in Rome for almost three weeks due to the Covid-19 outbreak, has written a letter to fellow Europeans “from your future”, laying out the range of emotions people are likely to go through over the coming weeks.

I am writing to you from Italy, which means I am writing from your future. We are now where you will be in a few days. The epidemic’s charts show us all entwined in a parallel dance.

 

We are but a few steps ahead of you in the path of time, just like Wuhan was a few weeks ahead of us. We watch you as you behave just as we did. You hold the same arguments we did until a short time ago, between those who still say “it’s only a flu, why all the fuss?” and those who have already understood.

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As we watch you from here, from your future, we know that many of you, as you were told to lock yourselves up into your homes, quoted Orwell, some even Hobbes. But soon you’ll be too busy for that.

First of all, you’ll eat. Not just because it will be one of the few last things that you can still do.

You’ll find dozens of social networking groups with tutorials on how to spend your free time in fruitful ways. You will join them all, then ignore them completely after a few days.

You’ll pull apocalyptic literature out of your bookshelves, but will soon find you don’t really feel like reading any of it.

You’ll eat again. You will not sleep well. You will ask yourselves what is happening to democracy.

You’ll have an unstoppable online social life – on Messenger, WhatsApp, Skype, Zoom…

You will miss your adult children like you never have before; the realisation that you have no idea when you will ever see them again will hit you like a punch in the chest.

Old resentments and falling-outs will seem irrelevant. You will call people you had sworn never to talk to ever again, so as to ask them: “How are you doing?” Many women will be beaten in their homes.

You will wonder what is happening to all those who can’t stay home because they don’t have one. You will feel vulnerable when going out shopping in the deserted streets, especially if you are a woman. You will ask yourselves if this is how societies collapse. Does it really happen so fast? You’ll block out these thoughts and when you get back home you’ll eat again.

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You will put on weight. You’ll look for online fitness training.

You’ll laugh. You’ll laugh a lot. You’ll flaunt a gallows humour you never had before. Even people who’ve always taken everything dead seriously will contemplate the absurdity of life, of the universe and of it all.

You will make appointments in the supermarket queues with your friends and lovers, so as to briefly see them in person, all the while abiding by the social distancing rules.

You will count all the things you do not need.

The true nature of the people around you will be revealed with total clarity. You will have confirmations and surprises.

Literati who had been omnipresent in the news will disappear, their opinions suddenly irrelevant; some will take refuge in rationalisations which will be so totally lacking in empathy that people will stop listening to them. People whom you had overlooked, instead, will turn out to be reassuring, generous, reliable, pragmatic and clairvoyant.

Those who invite you to see all this mess as an opportunity for planetary renewal will help you to put things in a larger perspective. You will also find them terribly annoying: nice, the planet is breathing better because of the halved CO₂ emissions, but how will you pay your bills next month?

You will not understand if witnessing the birth of a new world is more a grandiose or a miserable affair.

You will play music from your windows and lawns. When you saw us singing opera from our balconies, you thought “ah, those Italians”. But we know you will sing uplifting songs to each other too. And when you blast I Will Survive from your windows, we’ll watch you and nod just like the people of Wuhan, who sung from their windows in February, nodded while watching us.

Many of you will fall asleep vowing that the very first thing you’ll do as soon as lockdown is over is file for divorce.

Many children will be conceived.

Your children will be schooled online. They’ll be horrible nuisances; they’ll give you joy.

Elderly people will disobey you like rowdy teenagers: you’ll have to fight with them in order to forbid them from going out, to get infected and die.

You will try not to think about the lonely deaths inside the ICU.

You’ll want to cover with rose petals all medical workers’ steps.

You will be told that society is united in a communal effort, that you are all in the same boat. It will be true. This experience will change for good how you perceive yourself as an individual part of a larger whole.

Class, however, will make all the difference. Being locked up in a house with a pretty garden or in an overcrowded housing project will not be the same. Nor is being able to keep on working from home or seeing your job disappear. That boat in which you’ll be sailing in order to defeat the epidemic will not look the same to everyone nor is it actually the same for everyone: it never was.

At some point, you will realise it’s tough. You will be afraid. You will share your fear with your dear ones, or you will keep it to yourselves so as not to burden them with it too.

You will eat again.

We’re in Italy, and this is what we know about your future. But it’s just small-scale fortune-telling. We are very low-key seers.

If we turn our gaze to the more distant future, the future which is unknown both to you and to us too, we can only tell you this: when all of this is over, the world won’t be the same.

© Francesca Melandri 2020. Her novel Eva Sleeps, translated by Katherine Gregor, is published by Europa Editions

 

[Krapow]

2 minutes ago, Bazle said:

Yes. 

Up to you, farang!

[lazarus]

Don’t Be Surprised When Vaccinated People Get Infected
Post-immunization cases, sometimes called “breakthroughs,” are very rare and very expected.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/03/vaccine-breakthrough-cases/618330/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20210322&silverid=%%RECIPIENT_ID%%&utm_term=The Atlantic Daily

...Efficacy, a figure specific to clinical trials, also doesn’t always translate perfectly to the messiness of the real world, where there’s immense variability in how, when, where, by whom, and to whom shots are administered. The vaccine’s performance under these conditions is tracked by a separate measure, called effectiveness. Studies rigorously examining vaccine effectiveness are challenging, but early data suggest that the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna shots are living up to their initial hype...

...Most of the time, vaccines are far more likely to offer some help than none. Serious disease, hospitalization, and even death will still occur, as will less well-studied outcomes, such as the long-term symptoms that often arise from less severe disease. But should post-vaccination infections climb to unexpectedly high rates, backup plans will quickly kick into gear. Some shot recipients might get second or third shots to bolster their immune response; others might be administered a tweaked vaccine recipe to account for a new viral variant...

[Nightcrawler]

Getting my second AZ vaccination this afternoon at 3pm.

Got a text this morning and I booked an appointment for same day. No hanging around on the phone. Just clicked on the link they sent me, confirmed my DOB and that was it. Same Church as last time and plenty of parking spaces nearby. Just glad to get it out of the way and get connected to 5G 😁😁

[Bazle]

49 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

Getting my second AZ vaccination this afternoon at 3pm.

How long after the first one is that?

[Nightcrawler]

1 minute ago, Bazle said:

How long after the first one is that?

I had the first dose on 27th January. So that's 8 weeks I think

[Bazle]

21 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

I had the first dose on 27th January. So that's 8 weeks I think

You have been very fortunate!

[Nightcrawler]

1 minute ago, Bazle said:

You have been very fortunate!

Apart from the massive burning sensation I get when entering the House of God. 

[Nightcrawler]

I was due for my second penis reduction surgery which was scheduled for last September but cancelled due to Covid. 

I now have a date at the end of May. 

[KWA]

20 hours ago, Krapow said:

Have to do 2 of these a week now, due to my work and not completely working from home. Well, anyone in England with kids at school 'should' is the terminology used, do 2 a week.

 

Dear ****************
Birth date **********
Test date: 23 March 2021

Your coronavirus lateral flow test result is negative. It’s likely you were not infectious when the test was done.

 

An ex workmate told me the other day they were doing a voluntary lateral flow test weekly until last week when it changed to a compulsory swab test with the results in 15 minutes.  You turn up with your coat etc as if you fail you're straight off the premises and referred for an NHS test.  Refuse the test then it's home without pay.

[Krapow]

3 hours ago, KWA said:

 

An ex workmate told me the other day they were doing a voluntary lateral flow test weekly until last week when it changed to a compulsory swab test with the results in 15 minutes.  You turn up with your coat etc as if you fail you're straight off the premises and referred for an NHS test.  Refuse the test then it's home without pay.

If mine came back positive, i've to get a PCR test straight away, then isolate, and expect a call from track and trace,. which pretty much means my child couldn't go to school. 

I'm in no hurry to do it again, though compulsory before i work the election in May, or can't work it!

@john luke are you the same, are you working the election, have to do the test a day before?

[john luke]

4 minutes ago, Krapow said:

If mine came back positive, i've to get a PCR test straight away, then isolate, and expect a call from track and trace,. which pretty much means my child couldn't go to school. 

I'm in no hurry to do it again, though compulsory before i work the election in May, or can't work it!

@john luke are you the same, are you working the election, have to do the test a day before?

A Lateral Flow Test will be sent out by post some time before the election.  If positive I can not do the election.  Not very much detail about the test procedure other than further details to be supplied with the test kit.

[Krapow]

17 minutes ago, john luke said:

A Lateral Flow Test will be sent out by post some time before the election.  If positive I can not do the election.  Not very much detail about the test procedure other than further details to be supplied with the test kit.

If your eyes water and you gag, you know you've done it right 

[Krapow]

4 hours ago, Nightcrawler said:

I had the first dose on 27th January. So that's 8 weeks I think

I had my first Pfizer on 20th Jan, just booked my 2nd for 7th April. They said it could happen anytime from 28th March to 14th April. So that's between 9 and half and 12 weeks.