coxyhog Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 BA Airbus A350 & Emirates Boeing 777...expensive.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey_omelette Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, monkey_omelette said: Oops Can't be, way too much effort to entangle two stabilizers as those are quite small (relative to the rest of the plane). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Must have been getting pushed unless one somehow reversed into the other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Another pic. The BA aircraft was running freight only service and was being pushed back at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tj916 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Freee!! said: Can't be, way too much effort to entangle two stabilizers as those are quite small (relative to the rest of the plane). Think the A350 is composite construction . Very difficult and expensive to repair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Tj916 said: Think the A350 is composite construction . Very difficult and expensive to repair. Probably easier and cheaper to replace the stabilizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey_omelette Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Freee!! said: Can't be, way too much effort to entangle two stabilizers as those are quite small (relative to the rest of the plane). Isn't one plane a damaged stabilizer the other the elevator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, monkey_omelette said: Isn't one plane a damaged stabilizer the other the elevator? Good point, but usually the elevator is part of the stabilizer unit and complete replacement of the unit is the quickest and easiest solution anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 17 hours ago, Freee!! said: Good point, but usually the elevator is part of the stabilizer unit and complete replacement of the unit is the quickest and easiest solution anyway. Much,much easier to replace an elevator than the whole stab....but it looks like the rear spar of the stab may be damaged so maybe no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyes4thais Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, KWA said: Another pic. The BA aircraft was running freight only service and was being pushed back at the time. I cant think they would buy A350 for frieght and it has windows! Unless it has been reassigned from passengers to freight, but then capacity would be reduced by all the seats negating the fuel saving!. And how would you load it through that small doorway? I'm so bored! lol Edited April 15, 2020 by eyes4thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, eyes4thais said: I cant think they would buy A350 for frieght and it has windows! Unless it has been reassigned from passengers to freight, but then capacity would be reduced by all the seats negating the fuel saving!. And how would you load it through that small doorway? I'm so bored! lol Aren't we all! According to a link posted on Pprune it was freight only.You can still get quite a bit in the cargo holds & there ain't many self loading cargo around at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Another pic,looks like the A350 from above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, eyes4thais said: I cant think they would buy A350 for frieght and it has windows! Unless it has been reassigned from passengers to freight, but then capacity would be reduced by all the seats negating the fuel saving!. And how would you load it through that small doorway? I'm so bored! lol They're converting some passenger plans to haul cargo. Medicine, phones and strawberries: As passengers drop 90%, desperate airlines convert to cargo to stay afloat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyes4thais Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Wow that's impressive, and also innovative. Good to see them being pro active! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 I've worked on a few pax to cargo conversions and putting a big cargo door into the side of a fuselage is a huge undertaking and takes many months,not just the structural work but the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 9 hours ago, coxyhog said: I've worked on a few pax to cargo conversions and putting a big cargo door into the side of a fuselage is a huge undertaking and takes many months,not just the structural work but the design. The B747 Combis were great for that. Martin Air could convert a combi from "full" pax to half pax half freight and back in less time than anybody else including Boeing. Of course, the lower deck was always already full cargo. KLM still has some of those Combis and those were the preferred means of transporting horses and ponies world wide for most customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, eyes4thais said: I cant think they would buy A350 for frieght and it has windows! Unless it has been reassigned from passengers to freight, but then capacity would be reduced by all the seats negating the fuel saving!. And how would you load it through that small doorway? I'm so bored! lol Lots of airlines running "ghost flights" now just for the freight capacity. 16 tonnes in the belly hold of an A350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 A couple of aircraft out of service just joins hundreds and hundreds of others that will be parked for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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