Thai Spice Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stillearly said: HongKong isn't as important economically to China as it once may have been .... think this is behind China's changing stance from an article a couple of years ago It is not "behind" China's stand. It was a part of the plan. Thats why they created the Shenzen free trade zone just at HKG's door. To slowly transfer the economic activity from HKG to Shenzen, and rendering HKG less critical for China's economy. Hence opening stock exchanges and planning one day to make the RMB an international recognized currency. Etc..... And even if a few 100,000 Honkies emigrate to other countries , China is not gonna lose sleep about it. So much less "revolutionary troublemakers" standing in the way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Hong Kong is a dry run for Taiwan. If they crush dissent there, and the world stands idly by, wait for it...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, alias said: Hong Kong is a dry run for Taiwan. If they crush dissent there, and the world stands idly by, wait for it...... There is a little difference. Taiwan would require a seaborne military operation, HKG it is just hopping over to "assist". Dont forget there are already 1000's of PLA troops stationned in HKG since 97. But yes, Taiwan must be watching this closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Spice said: There is a little difference. Taiwan would require a seaborne military operation, HKG it is just hopping over to "assist". Dont forget there are already 1000's of PLA troops stationned in HKG since 97. But yes, Taiwan must be watching this closely. Yes, I'm well aware of the differences. We should be paying attention to the similarities. China will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Well, the biggest dealmaker, smartest0 negociator, best financial adviser of the world is gonna solve it ! In case Xi is not experienced enough the Emperor of Twatter is offering a meeting to teach him...... Where are the roll eyes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Well, the biggest dealmaker, smartest0 negociator, best financial adviser of the world is gonna solve it ! In case Xi is not experienced enough the Emperor of Twatter is offering a meeting to teach him...... Where are the roll eyes ? I'm sure Xi (they) are very impressed. lol Sheeet... They are going to hold off for a good long time. Milk him and the U.S., wait to see who is next elected, position themselves for the best deal and cut it with the next Prez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmango Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Glasseye said: I'm sure Xi (they) are very impressed. lol Sheeet... They are going to hold off for a good long time. Milk him and the U.S., wait to see who is next elected, position themselves for the best deal and cut it with the next Prez. Milk Trump? Come on get real, China has far more to lose in a trade war than America, and it's showing. Foreign companies are starting to move out of China and the economy is dropping like a rock. Besides, the next president is going to be Tump anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mrmango said: Milk Trump? Come on get real, China has far more to lose in a trade war than America, and it's showing. Foreign companies are starting to move out of China and the economy is dropping like a rock. Besides, the next president is going to be Tump anyway Please dont turn this in a pro / anti Trump or dem/lib ... Subject is HKG. You are most welcome to open a specific monologue in a dedicated thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 C/f my post #6 Could this be a serious run on the banks ? I doubt it, but things are moving fast. https://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/3023065/hong-kongs-banks-say-they-have-adequate-cash-meet-demand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1V60PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Thai Spice said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1V60PM Interesting. One thing for sure is I won't be routing any flights through there anytime soon. Shame. But I support the protests. Otherwise HK will just become one more Ch..k city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmango Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Please dont turn this in a pro / anti Trump or dem/lib ... Subject is HKG. You are most welcome to open a specific monologue in a dedicated thread. He mentioned the present US president not me. I didn't turn this into that. I simply gave specific examples how his statements were false. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Please dont turn this in a pro / anti Trump or dem/lib ... Subject is HKG. You are most welcome to open a specific monologue in a dedicated thread. On 7/16/2019 at 2:38 AM, Thai Spice said: Would be fun to see him meeting Trump .... On 7/3/2019 at 9:56 PM, Thai Spice said: They did it rather discreetly, contrary to USA who always brags, and hoped that the world would not notice before they had the lead. The actual economic war that Trump started has thrown a wrench in the gears for the moment. But they have time, plenty of it. Edited August 16, 2019 by alias 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 hours ago, alias said: 5555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 This is IMHO I see it end. A young, mobile, demanding generation emigrating. The ones without money or qualifications have no choice but to stay, and will be absorbed by Bejing. The older generation is unlikely to move, they'll simply wait the end. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3023166/port-storm-emigrating-hongkongers-seek-stability-elsewhere Emigrating Hongkongers seek stability elsewhere, heading to Australia, Canada, Singapore Not that I would choice Singapore, as there is not much more freedom there, but for a Chinese I can understand the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Fondles Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 They must have plenty of time and money if they are emigrating to Aus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sir_Fondles said: They must have plenty of time and money if they are emigrating to Aus. As I said only a minority will manage. Note that a important number of people have the British Overseas Passport. Not sure about how many kept it renewed and "active". Hence you can read about those people now asking UK for the right to abode. Quite a number have a Canadian passport. I knew a HK girl who had both, she was aware this shit might happen one day and wanted to keep her options open. But again, "forcing" an important part of the population to volonteerily emigrate is just a "soft" form of ethnic cleaning.... You probably know also that Aus is heavily influenced by mainland China, that there is a huge community (students) of mainland Chinese there, so as a Honkie it would not be my 1st choice. Canada seems much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Fondles Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Thai Spice said: As I said only a minority will manage. Note that a important number of people have the British Overseas Passport. Not sure about how many kept it renewed and "active". Hence you can read about those people now asking UK for the right to abode. Quite a number have a Canadian passport. I knew a HK girl who had both, she was aware this shit might happen one day and wanted to keep her options open. But again, "forcing" an important part of the population to volonteerily emigrate is just a "soft" form of ethnic cleaning.... You probably know also that Aus is heavily influenced by mainland China, that there is a huge community (students) of mainland Chinese there, so as a Honkie it would not be my 1st choice. Canada seems much better. To be honest I dont really care.. my post was merely implying emigrating to Aus is not a cheap or quick exercise so surprises me it is a desired destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 BTW, I have this, but not sure its gonna be of much use in the future....🤣🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Disinformation by government is now a usual tool. Hong Kong protests: Twitter and Facebook remove Chinese accounts https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-49402222 The same organisation is also very active in the readers comment section from SCMP newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Rupert Hogg - I dips me lid to you - The Cathay Pacific CEO was asked to provide the CCP with a list of the names of employees who have participated in the protests. He gave them a list with one name on it – his own. Then he resigned his job. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3765103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zeb said: Rupert Hogg - I dips me lid to you - The Cathay Pacific CEO was asked to provide the CCP with a list of the names of employees who have participated in the protests. He gave them a list with one name on it – his own. Then he resigned his job. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3765103 His assistant resigned also. Probably both will be replaced with marionnettes at Bejing's order. Same as Carrie Lam has zero power to decide anything outside of the party line. Any major company that in the future dares to go against the "plan" will be silenced one or other way. PS : Taiwan is not necessarily an objective source, as they have a serious problem with Bejing also and are a bit biaised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Thai Spice said: PS : Taiwan is not necessarily an objective source, as they have a serious problem with Bejing also and are a bit biaised. I Don't blame them for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangme Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 8:35 PM, dcfc2007 said: Surprised the Chinese haven't launched a more brutal crackdown. What about the crackdown in France. French worse than the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 This is how Bejing would like to see HKG and Taiwan. Obedient ....like Macau. Note the population.profile is completely different, strong immigration from the mainland having completely diluted the original Macau. Don't 'mess up Macau': gambling hub set to choose Beijing-backed leader https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1VB0HY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts