Steelers4Life Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: I think they will allow more foreigners in over the coming months, but with the same conditions of entry that are currently imposed, can't see a return to commercial tourism yet. I don't think that will come until a vaccine is working. I have to agree with you 100%. I am on the pessimistic side about US tourists being allowed in anytime soon. Especially with hotspots cropping up here. I am leaning towards early 2021 when we will be allowed entry at the soonest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 3:48 AM, Jambo said: 4. Apart from a valid visa, travellers must prepare the following documents in order to enter Thailand: (1) COE and Declaration Form with applicant’s signature acknowledging and accepting the terms stated therein (2) Medical certificate affirming good health in traveling (Fit to Fly/ Travel Health Certificate (3) Medical certificate affirming a negative result of Corona (COVID-19) RT-PCR test examined or issued not over 72 hours before departure 5. Travellers shall, immediately after entering Thailand, strictly follow the health procedures by quarantining at an ASQ for 14 days at their own expense You would also need evidence that you're in one of the categories allowed back in eg work permit, marriage certificate, Thai child's birth certificate or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Steelers4Life said: I have to agree with you 100%. I am on the pessimistic side about US tourists being allowed in anytime soon. Especially with hotspots cropping up here. I am leaning towards early 2021 when we will be allowed entry at the soonest. It's a fast changing situation, it seems a surge of cases in Europe and the Northern Hemisphere is almost inevitable when we move towards winter. It's unlikely a vaccine will be widely distributed and working before then. I just can't see Thailand opening up to tourists with this thing still circulating. Public opinion in Thailand is still very much against letting tourists back into the country. Realistically, we are looking at least another 12 months before we start to see tourists traveling to Thailand in numbers anywhere near like they were prior to covid19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Boy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Given the crowds in Pattaya and elsewhere over this long holiday weekend, emulating the conditions in Da Nang recently, I think we need to watch what happens in Thailand over the coming two weeks. Short of inviting tourists back, the Thais have done just about everything they can to encourage the virus to resurface, as it has in Vietnam. Now let's wait and see what happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Toy Boy said: Given the crowds in Pattaya and elsewhere over this long holiday weekend, emulating the conditions in Da Nang recently, I think we need to watch what happens in Thailand over the coming two weeks. Short of inviting tourists back, the Thais have done just about everything they can to encourage the virus to resurface, as it has in Vietnam. Now let's wait and see what happens. It will be telling for sure as Thailand has reported no new local infections for 63 days. If there is a new outbreak then that would indicate the govt has been publishing false info for several months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Boy Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, forcebwithu said: It will be telling for sure as Thailand has reported no new local infections for 63 days. If there is a new outbreak then that would indicate the govt has been publishing false info for several months. Not necessarily, Vietnam had gone around 100 days without a local case when two suddenly emerged during a crowded holiday period. Apparently their contact tracing is top-notch (as you might expect of a Communist government with its surveillance apparatus at the local level), yet the last I read they still didn't know how the new cases had been spread. My guess is an asymptomatic carrier (or more than one) who doesn't present a major risk in normal situations, but during a holiday when he or she gets down to party central, the virus suddenly finds it can spread again in a crowded, enclosed place where people are talking very loudly or shouting. I think the Thai and Vietnamese governments have been telling the truth as far as they know it. The CCSA admits that it doesn't know what's going on in the general population as they claim they cannot afford mass testing, but as far as I can see they haven't deliberately lied or falsified any numbers. The one ray of hope is that they've carried out two lots of "mass testing", one in Rayong and Bangkok due to the recent Egyptian/Sudanese incidents, and the other in Pattaya during the lockdown, and neither found any evidence of the virus circulating in the general population. Of course, testing 10,000 people in three places out of 70 million is hardly exhaustive, but again there's zero evidence that anybody has been telling porkies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Boys, boys, boys.... do you really believe any numbers and any announcement by governments such as Thailand, Vietnam, or here ? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: Boys, boys, boys.... do you really believe any numbers and any announcement by governments such as Thailand, Vietnam, or here ? Do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise, or an alternative source of information? The conversation is based on announcements being made, whether the reasons behind them might be debatable, does not change any restrictions being placed on immigration at the current time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 19 hours ago, Nightcrawler said: I have just read that a pet cat in Glasgow has tested positive for Covid 19.😃 7 hours ago, forcebwithu said: It will be telling for sure as Thailand has reported no new local infections for 63 days. If there is a new outbreak then that would indicate the govt has been publishing false info for several months. ..... or it's a pussy problem again! 🙂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Boy Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 16 hours ago, Bazle said: ..... or it's a pussy problem again! 🙂 Yes, Thai pussies, the source of so many problems....lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 11:05 AM, Thai Spice said: Boys, boys, boys.... do you really believe any numbers and any announcement by governments such as Thailand, Vietnam, or here ? Well Vietnam must have been lying, it's had a Thai style ban on tourists for months, then all of a sudden dozens of cases pop up after weeks of 0 cases. How did that happen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-vietnam-battles-covid-19-strain-not-seen-in-country-before-12038457 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 This may be a help to someone in the UK....£150 though https://osdhealthcare.co.uk/covid-19-testing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Thai Embassy in London are running three Thai Air flights repatriation flights from London to Bangkok in August, they're allowing 50 non Thai on each flight. Flight's not even that expensive considering, £689. Yes i know it's the cost of quarantine etc once you arrive. http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/120100-**Repatriation-Flights-for-non-Thai-nationals**.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 And the same flights taking passengers leaving Bangkok to London - https://loyaltylobby.com/2020/07/21/thai-airways-will-operate-three-special-flights-to-london-in-august-to-repatriate-passengers/#:~:text=Thai Airways Will Operate Three “Special Flights” To London,In August To Repatriate Passengers&text=Thai Airways has announced that,their international fleet remains grounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: Well Vietnam must have been lying, it's had a Thai style ban on tourists for months, then all of a sudden dozens of cases pop up after weeks of 0 cases. How did that happen? People trafficking over the Chinese border, from what I read, and once they're in it starts to spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 14 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: Well Vietnam must have been lying, it's had a Thai style ban on tourists for months, then all of a sudden dozens of cases pop up after weeks of 0 cases. How did that happen? 18 minutes ago, KWA said: People trafficking over the Chinese border, from what I read, and once they're in it starts to spread. If countries like Thailand, VN, declare having nearly zero cases IMO there are 3 choices : - They lie, and their numbers are BS. - They have a miraculous protection in their DNA - The whole Covid thing is a hoax pick whichever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toy Boy Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Thai Spice said: If countries like Thailand, VN, declare having nearly zero cases IMO there are 3 choices : - They lie, and their numbers are BS. - They have a miraculous protection in their DNA - The whole Covid thing is a hoax pick whichever you want. What's wrong with this choice? - Their authoritarian governments are able to quickly impose draconian restrictions on people, which liberal democracies find themselves unable to do. The original SARS epidemic instilled a deep fear of unknown illnesses in people in east and south-east Asia and they quickly adopted a mask-wearing culture, even in normal times as air pollution is so bad in many cities. Thus the order to wear masks in public didn't cause the "give-me-freedom-or-give-me-death" nonsense that is still going on in the West (while the virus enjoys itself to the full). Your three choices above just look like sour grapes (quite appropriate for a Frenchman, lol), and you sound jealous or resentful that a country where you evidently had a miserable time living, at least to judge by how much you seem to hate it from all your comments on this board, has done so well in dealing with the virus, certainly compared with your home country in Europe or the one in which you currently reside. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 A sign of the Times... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Krapow Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stillearly said: I think a lot of Governments have done too good a job of scaring the balls outta the population re this virus. Edited July 30, 2020 by Krapow 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toy Boy Posted August 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2020 Now this is interesting. I think somebody posted a link earlier to an NYT article pondering why SE Asia has escaped so lightly. Apart from the usual suggestions that it was culturally-normal behaviour to social distance, and the face mask wearing culture that already existed here, the article also wondered whether there might be something genetic at work that gave SE Asians a degree of protection against the virus? This theme was taken up a few days later by a spokesman for the CCSA when he noted that SE Asians are significantly more prone to getting dengue fever than foreigners, so it's possible that they're less prone to getting C19, but he didn't know why. Then I stumbled across this in last week's Economist. It's basically some interesting stuff about bat populations in SE Asia, but the really good bit that begins to answer the "why" starts in the paragraph beginning with "Jeremy Farrar" between the two pictures. Maybe the NYT writer and the CCSA guy had heard about this, but it does indeed seem possible that the people in SE Asia (or at least parts of it) do possess a natural resistance to coronaviruses like SARS-COV-2, and thus to Covid-19. 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 ^^^ Interesting read. TFP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 hours ago, forcebwithu said: ^^^ Interesting read. TFP Ditto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Butch said: Xmas will be a non event, peak season will come and go like a fart in the wind, and the Junta will continue to fiddle while everything burns. What would you advise them to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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