Horizondave Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I can't get a blood test at the moment as only urgent cases are being dealt with and as the doctor's receptionist told me yesterday everybody thinks they are urgent at which I told the girl that to belittle my need for a blood test was wrong considering my doctor had requested one for me to give me peace of mind. Despite everything the government says about business as usual my doctor told me yesterday that many operations, many appointments are continuing to be cancelled due to the Covid pandemic. I am awaiting physiotherapy on my knee, I am awaiting an Aortic Aneurysm screening and yet these have been cancelled previously and still not sure when I will be accommodated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toy Boy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8861271/amp/Why-Victorias-lockdown-killed-four-newborn-babies.html Four babies have died in Adelaide in the past four weeks after they could not be airlifted to Melbourne due to the city's coronavirus lockdown. South Australia does not have a cardiac unit for children meaning seriously ill newborns with heart issues are normally taken to Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital - but this option has been ruled out due to the pandemic, an inquiry heard on Tuesday. Unless I'm missing something, that's both tragic and stupid, since the virus presents hardly any risk to the young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunDon Posted October 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, Horizondave said: I can't get a blood test at the moment as only urgent cases are being dealt with and as the doctor's receptionist told me yesterday everybody thinks they are urgent at which I told the girl that to belittle my need for a blood test was wrong considering my doctor had requested one for me to give me peace of mind. Despite everything the government says about business as usual my doctor told me yesterday that many operations, many appointments are continuing to be cancelled due to the Covid pandemic. I am awaiting physiotherapy on my knee, I am awaiting an Aortic Aneurysm screening and yet these have been cancelled previously and still not sure when I will be accommodated. A couple of weeks ago on a Friday morning, I discovered a large lump in the back of my throat. Hadn’t felt anything wrong there before,(maybe because of the high doses of morphine I take daily) but I filled in an online E-Consult with my GP surgery, giving details as requested. Later that day, I got a call from my GP asking me to come in within the hour and he’d see me. So open wide and say Aah and he said “ I don’t like the look of that, plus you have another one further down behind your tongue”. Gulp😟 He then said “I’m going to fast track you too the cancer clinic” and he duly filled in the online referral form to a specialist ENT cancer unit in a hospital in Poole. The following Monday morning at 8.30 am, I got a call on my mobile from a ENT Consultant Oncologist in my Local County Hospital, asking for details. Details duly given, he then said “can you be here at 10.30 am and I’ll take a look. So off I went, (quietly shitting myself) for the appointment. Open wide and say Aah again. “I don’t like the look of those lumps” he said. I said I’d heard that before. ☹️ Out came his Moblie phone and he took a photo of what was lurking back there. “I’m going to email the pictures to another Consultant Oncologist friend of mine in London and knowing him, he’ll get right back to me, in the meantime I’m sending you for a full body MRI Scan, because I don’t like the look of those lumps. There’s that short, ass puckering statement again. “Stop saying that” said I. Off to the imaging dept and had an MRI with contrast, then told to go back to see the consultant in an hour, when the report will be ready on the MRI images. I’d had a full MRI Scan a few months earlier for observations on “Nodules” in my lungs, so they were comparing the two scans for any new growths in my lungs or neck, looking for signs of a primary cancer.😰 Only difference in the 2 scans was the 2 bleeding black/red lumps in my throat. Whilst I was sat with the consultant, his oncologist friend in London phoned and said he “felt the lumps were old, burst, Retaining Cysts” (blocked saliva glands) and the MRI would probably show no invasion of deep tissue, which the scan results later confirmed. So, I went from shitting bricks, to happy as a pig in 💩 instead. 🤗 Just to be sure, a couple of biopsies were taken from the lumps for confirmation of the diagnosis and I was told I would have the results by phone in a couple of days. True to his word, the consultant phoned me 4 days later to confirm the lumps weren’t cancerous, but that it was best I had seen him, just in case, because he “didn’t like the look of them”. f**k off. 😉 So, despite the chaos of Covid in hospitals and many people having cancer and other treatments cancelled, it only took a few days from first seeing my Gp to having all the diagnostic tests and being given a full diagnoses, using the fast track system. I don’t think I could have had this done any quicker, even if I’d gone private. Thank heavens for the NHS and all those that work for it. 🤗👍 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Saw this on telly last night. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1243965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyajn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 When are we going to safeguard the old and those with "underlying" health issues and let the rest of us get on with it. It seems as if a lot of us will get it and not know, some will get a bit ill, some will be hospitalized and a very small percentage will not make it. I'll take my chance same as I do with flu, cancer, crossing the road etc. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, andyajn said: When are we going to safeguard the old and those with "underlying" health issues and let the rest of us get on with it. When it is possible to identify "the old and those with "underlying" health issues", and then separate them from everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Bazle said: When it is possible to identify "the old and those with "underlying" health issues", and then separate them from everyone else. And isolate them on some deserted island ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampla69 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Thai Spice said: And isolate them on some deserted island ? Bonjour mon brave ....Je suis Samuel .............. triste en France ....Vive la république et RIP Samuel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: And isolate them on some deserted island ? Is that what you'd like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampla69 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Horizondave said: I can't get a blood test at the moment as only urgent cases are being dealt with and as the doctor's receptionist told me yesterday everybody thinks they are urgent at which I told the girl that to belittle my need for a blood test was wrong considering my doctor had requested one for me to give me peace of mind. Despite everything the government says about business as usual my doctor told me yesterday that many operations, many appointments are continuing to be cancelled due to the Covid pandemic. I am awaiting physiotherapy on my knee, I am awaiting an Aortic Aneurysm screening and yet these have been cancelled previously and still not sure when I will be accommodated. Thought it was better out of London ??? .......... stay well D mate .... keep talking but I will always talk more than you London Irish beat your lot every day..... you have so much to live for ...... loads of love blue... Namps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, nampla69 said: Bonjour mon brave ....Je suis Samuel .............. triste en France ....Vive la république et RIP Samuel. Thanks. They won't get us, dont worry. I guess you saw the reaction of the people ? Even Macron went the right way in his speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bazle said: Is that what you'd like? I live on one, and rather happy .... In fact many people here think this crisis should be taken as an opportunity to re orientate the tourism industry. Forget about Chinese, Indians and Aussies. Try target Europe. Not easy, mainly because of distance, flight time and ticket price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, nampla69 said: Thought it was better out of London ??? .......... stay well D mate .... keep talking but I will always talk more than you London Irish beat your lot every day..... you have so much to live for ...... loads of love blue... Namps. At least my doctor can write a note, got signed off today for a month and then ironically got a call from the receptionist to say I am booked in for physio on the 02 November for my dodgy knee. Have been having a few problems with liquid on my knee, probably a side affect of playing too much football when younger but it flared up after doing a lovely walk to some waterfalls. Really bloody painful and after 10 days without going down the doc thinks I need physio. Good job there is a great woman in the house to take care of me. The little one has also started bringing me my tea so looking up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Freedom...American style... ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_County,_Idaho ) Edited October 21, 2020 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 14 hours ago, KhunDon said: A couple of weeks ago on a Friday morning, I discovered a large lump in the back of my throat. Hadn’t felt anything wrong there before,(maybe because of the high doses of morphine I take daily) but I filled in an online E-Consult with my GP surgery, giving details as requested. Later that day, I got a call from my GP asking me to come in within the hour and he’d see me. So open wide and say Aah and he said “ I don’t like the look of that, plus you have another one further down behind your tongue”. Gulp😟 He then said “I’m going to fast track you too the cancer clinic” and he duly filled in the online referral form to a specialist ENT cancer unit in a hospital in Poole. The following Monday morning at 8.30 am, I got a call on my mobile from a ENT Consultant Oncologist in my Local County Hospital, asking for details. Details duly given, he then said “can you be here at 10.30 am and I’ll take a look. So off I went, (quietly shitting myself) for the appointment. Open wide and say Aah again. “I don’t like the look of those lumps” he said. I said I’d heard that before. ☹️ Out came his Moblie phone and he took a photo of what was lurking back there. “I’m going to email the pictures to another Consultant Oncologist friend of mine in London and knowing him, he’ll get right back to me, in the meantime I’m sending you for a full body MRI Scan, because I don’t like the look of those lumps. There’s that short, ass puckering statement again. “Stop saying that” said I. Off to the imaging dept and had an MRI with contrast, then told to go back to see the consultant in an hour, when the report will be ready on the MRI images. I’d had a full MRI Scan a few months earlier for observations on “Nodules” in my lungs, so they were comparing the two scans for any new growths in my lungs or neck, looking for signs of a primary cancer.😰 Only difference in the 2 scans was the 2 bleeding black/red lumps in my throat. Whilst I was sat with the consultant, his oncologist friend in London phoned and said he “felt the lumps were old, burst, Retaining Cysts” (blocked saliva glands) and the MRI would probably show no invasion of deep tissue, which the scan results later confirmed. So, I went from shitting bricks, to happy as a pig in 💩 instead. 🤗 Just to be sure, a couple of biopsies were taken from the lumps for confirmation of the diagnosis and I was told I would have the results by phone in a couple of days. True to his word, the consultant phoned me 4 days later to confirm the lumps weren’t cancerous, but that it was best I had seen him, just in case, because he “didn’t like the look of them”. f**k off. 😉 So, despite the chaos of Covid in hospitals and many people having cancer and other treatments cancelled, it only took a few days from first seeing my Gp to having all the diagnostic tests and being given a full diagnoses, using the fast track system. I don’t think I could have had this done any quicker, even if I’d gone private. Thank heavens for the NHS and all those that work for it. 🤗👍 What a great outcome!! Great to see DCFC's wild anecdotal claims are being summarily rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyajn Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Thai Spice said: And isolate them on some deserted island ? No simply give them the opportunity to self isolate, up to them to make the decision they are adults living in a free country. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, andyajn said: No simply give them the opportunity to self isolate, up to them to make the decision they are adults living in a free country. So you think anyone who is in a vulnerable group (e.g. old, overweight, diabetic, etc.) should self isolate? Apparently, that is about 30% of the country, and will include essential workers. Adults living in a free country are not incarcerated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyajn Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Better 30% isolates than 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, andyajn said: Better 30% isolates than 100%. But 100% are NOT being asked to isolate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyajn Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We need to get back to business as usual and that is not happening anytime soon. They are looking to put more and more of the country under "Tier 3" restrictions. Not good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Bazle said: So you think anyone who is in a vulnerable group (e.g. old, overweight, diabetic, etc.) should self isolate? Apparently, that is about 30% of the country, and will include essential workers. Adults living in a free country are not incarcerated! If you are a 'risk' then you should be responsible for your own health, not risk the majority of the country's population suffering instead by locking down. Job losses, illnesses not being treated or diagnosed, mental suffering of those worried about losing their business etc.. Shield the vulnerable and let a sense of normal life return before we are on our knees as a country. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 10:08 AM, Horizondave said: I can't get a blood test at the moment as only urgent cases are being dealt with and as the doctor's receptionist told me yesterday everybody thinks they are urgent at which I told the girl that to belittle my need for a blood test was wrong considering my doctor had requested one for me to give me peace of mind. Despite everything the government says about business as usual my doctor told me yesterday that many operations, many appointments are continuing to be cancelled due to the Covid pandemic. I am awaiting physiotherapy on my knee, I am awaiting an Aortic Aneurysm screening and yet these have been cancelled previously and still not sure when I will be accommodated. Nothing like business as usual. They are cancelling urgent cancer operations, poor bastards are being left to die in case somebody else it's a sore throat and a dry cough. I can't understand this madness, none of it makes sense. They closed barbers, hairdressers, tattooists here because they hope it may reduce the 'R' number by 0.05. Bonkers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, galenkia said: Shield the vulnerable and let a sense of normal life return before we are on our knees as a country. Exactly how are you going to "shield the vulnerable"? For example, suppose you have a family in which mother is obese, or one of the kids has diabetes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It would be nice to think that people will be "responsible" and take precautions to help keep their families and neighbors disease free. From what I have seen in my community --one of the lowest Covid infection & death rates in the US -- quite a few of them cannot. Also, IMO this "protect the vulnerable argument" is weak. There are many example of health care workers, LE & first respondents contracting the disease (and dying). As a society we are all in this together and if we fail to shut the bastard down we all will eventually suffer. Some countries have succeeded in shutting down Covid to a manageable or "zero" level -- e.g., New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam -- their methods should be followed in other places to keep infections low. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Bazle said: Exactly how are you going to "shield the vulnerable"? For example, suppose you have a family in which mother is obese, or one of the kids has diabetes? You can't, that's the reality. If it was that easy, they'd already be doing it, whether in the UK, Spain, France, the US or wherever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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