fygjam Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, fforest said: What a surprise, @fforestpushing someone elses's bullshit again. "Gold Standard" Gladys being investigated by ICAC has fukall to do with Covid vaccines. It is because of her pre-pandemic fukbuddy's (also at the time a politician) corruption and did she know about it or facilitate it. Sweet fuk all to do with Covid vaccines! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 ^ but it's from that trusted news source Darren from Plymouth.... 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, fygjam said: What a surprise, @fforestpushing someone elses's bullshit again. "Gold Standard" Gladys being investigated by ICAC has fukall to do with Covid vaccines. It is because of her pre-pandemic fukbuddy's (also at the time a politician) corruption and did she know about it or facilitate it. Sweet fuk all to do with Covid vaccines! It has everything to do with covid....Gladys is/was the lockdown covid queen...And I guess you missed the last video where billionaire Clive Palmer is talking about her and pfizer.. Edited October 1, 2021 by fforest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, fforest said: It has everything to do with covid....Gladys is/was the lockdown covid queen... You have been misinformed or more correctly failed to inform yourself before posting. "Gold Standard" Gladys was anti-lockdown. That's why a single infected person brought the state to it's knees. She failed to control an outbreak before it was too late and it got out of control. Do us all a favour and try to get the facts straight before posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) https://www.aol.co.uk/news/hospital-patient-67-saved-anti-074516114.html?guccounter=1 Hospital patient, 67, 'saved' by anti-vaxxers dies from COVID Edited October 1, 2021 by coxyhog 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Will the anti-vaxxers become anti-meds now, too? . . . Covid Live Updates: Merck Says Its Antiviral Pill Is Effective Against Coronavirus https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/10/01/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccines The drug maker Merck said on Friday that it would seek authorization for the first antiviral pill for Covid after its drug, known as molnupiravir, was shown in a clinical trial to cut the risk of hospitalization or death in half when given to high-risk people early in their infections. The treatment could become the first in a wave of antiviral pill products, which experts say could offer a powerful new tool in efforts to tame the pandemic, as they could reach more people than the antibody treatments that are being widely used in the United States for similar patients. “I think it will translate into many thousands of lives being saved worldwide, where there’s less access to monoclonal antibodies, and in this country, too,” said Dr. Robert Shafer, an infectious disease specialist and expert on antiviral therapy at Stanford University. Late-stage study results of two other antiviral pills, one developed by Pfizer and the other by Atea Pharmaceuticals and Roche, are expected within the next few months. The Merck drug, which is designed to stop the coronavirus from replicating, is to be taken as four capsules twice a day for five days. Merck said an independent board of experts monitoring its study data had recommended that its trial be stopped early because the drug’s benefit to patients had proved so convincing. The company said that the Food and Drug Administration had agreed with that decision. For the research, the monitors looked at data through early August, when the study had enrolled 775 volunteers in the United States and overseas. For volunteers who received the drug, their risk of being hospitalized or dying fell 50 percent, without any concerning side effects, compared with those who received placebo pills, Merck said in a news release announcing the findings. Seven percent of volunteers in the group that received the drug were hospitalized, and none of them died, compared with a 14 percent rate of hospitalization and death — including eight deaths — in the group that received the placebo. The Merck pill’s efficacy was lower than that of monoclonal antibody treatments, which mimic antibodies that the immune system generates naturally when fighting the virus. Those drugs have been in high demand recently, but they are expensive, are typically given intravenously, and have proved cumbersome and labor-intensive for hospitals and clinics to administer. Studies have shown that they reduce hospitalizations and deaths 70 to 85 percent in similar high-risk Covid patients. Still, Angela Rasmussen, a virologist and research scientist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan, said that antiviral pills could have a greater impact by virtue of reaching more people. “If that holds up at the population scale,” she said, “that is going to translate to an objectively larger number of lives saved potentially with this drug,” adding that, “Maybe it isn’t doing the same numbers as the monoclonal antibodies, but it’s still going to be huge.” The federal government has placed advance orders for 1.7 million courses of Merck’s drug, at a price of about $700 per patient. That is about one-third of the current cost of a monoclonal antibody treatment. Merck — which is developing the pill with its partner, Ridgeback Biotherapeutics of Miami — has not said which patients it plans to ask the F.D.A. to approve the drug for. It may be initially approved for the limited group of patients who are eligible to receive monoclonal antibody treatments: possibly older people and those with medical conditions that put them at high risk for bad outcomes from Covid. But experts said they expected that the drug might eventually be used more widely, in many people who test positive for the virus. If authorized, Merck’s drug would be the second antiviral treatment for Covid. The first, remdesivir, must be infused and has lost favor among clinicians as studies have suggested that it offers only modest benefit for Covid patients. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I am amazed here in the USA as I watch this go on and on now, how many people have lost their jobs because they will not get vaccinated??? A ton of people even in the healthcare industry? Truly amazing... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Yessongs said: I am amazed here in the USA as I watch this go on and on now, how many people have lost their jobs because they will not get vaccinated??? A ton of people even in the healthcare industry? Truly amazing... Or...truly ignorant? Most everyone I know is vaccinated. No one has contracted Covid. No one had problems with the vaccine other than the immediate after effect (for a few). I do know of folks that died pre-vaccine in the early days of the pandemic. I'll be getting my flu shot soon, as will my daughter. Her Covid shot will be available (for <12yos) soon too. It's simple. Trust science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 The cost of complacency, doubt & resistance U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Nears 700,000 Despite Wide Availability of Vaccines The latest Covid-19 deaths were concentrated in the South, and included younger people than before. Every age group under 55 saw its highest death toll of the pandemic this August. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/us-covid-deaths-700k.html ... An overwhelming majority of Americans who have died in recent months, a period in which the country has offered broad access to shots, were unvaccinated. The United States has had one of the highest recent death rates of any country with an ample supply of vaccines. The new and alarming surge of deaths this summer means that the coronavirus pandemic has become the deadliest in American history, overtaking the toll from the influenza pandemic of 1918 and 1919, which killed about 675,000 people. “This Delta wave just rips through the unvaccinated,” said Howard Markel, a medical historian at the University of Michigan. The deaths that have followed the wide availability of vaccines, he added, are “absolutely needless.” ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 7 hours ago, fforest said: 7 hours ago, fforest said: It has everything to do with covid....Gladys is/was the lockdown covid queen...And I guess you missed the last video where billionaire Clive Palmer is talking about her and pfizer.. The thing that always makes me laugh the most, is that nutters like Lost in a Forest always bang on about do your own research, and they're seekers of the truth. Then they believe and shoot their load over all sorts of absolute horseshit online that doesn't stand up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. The gullibility of these lunatics is something else, really is, a fast growing industry harnessing the simpletons of this world. They literally take anything at face value, they must be like a Bargirl's dream, literally believe any old shit! 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, Krapow said: The thing that always makes me laugh the most, is that nutters like Lost in a Forest always bang on about do your own research, and they're seekers of the truth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Yessongs said: I am amazed here in the USA as I watch this go on and on now, how many people have lost their jobs because they will not get vaccinated??? A ton of people even in the healthcare industry? Truly amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Yes! California will be first state to require COVID-19 vaccine for students https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/California-to-require-COVID-19-vaccine-for-16502545.php California will require all public and private school students to be vaccinated against the coronavirus once the shot receives final approval for younger age groups. The rule, announced Friday by Gov. Gavin Newsom, adds COVID-19 to the list of diseases that children must be immunized against in order to attend school in the state, which already includes chickenpox, measles, polio and tetanus. Students who refuse will be offered independent study instead.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, lazarus said: Or...truly ignorant? Most everyone I know is vaccinated. No one has contracted Covid. No one had problems with the vaccine other than the immediate after effect (for a few). I do know of folks that died pre-vaccine in the early days of the pandemic. I'll be getting my flu shot soon, as will my daughter. Her Covid shot will be available (for <12yos) soon too. It's simple. Trust science. Ok here is the science Finally and its being spoken in government.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Ah Clive. Hardly an oracle https://postimg.cc/Wq61MhRQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, fforest said: Ok here is the science Finally and its being spoken in government.... Ron Paul... There's no bigger idiot in Washington DC. Hands down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, lazarus said: Yes! California will be first state to require COVID-19 vaccine for students https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/California-to-require-COVID-19-vaccine-for-16502545.php California will require all public and private school students to be vaccinated against the coronavirus once the shot receives final approval for younger age groups. The rule, announced Friday by Gov. Gavin Newsom, adds COVID-19 to the list of diseases that children must be immunized against in order to attend school in the state, which already includes chickenpox, measles, polio and tetanus. Students who refuse will be offered independent study instead.... In the comments.... BlueWheel 1 hour ago Well, if it is good enough for the state legislature it's good enough for the kids. Oh wait. Edited October 1, 2021 by fforest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, fforest said: I look forward to the day Gavin Newsom goes to prison for this crime.... Cop yourself on FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, fforest said: Ok here is the science Finally and its being spoken in government.... Out of interest, do you have any of your own posts on Twitter to share here, or indeed your own views and text? Virtually ALL of your posts are those of other people who none of us have heard of and copied from Twitter. They are not members of this Forum. If Members of this Forum are interested in Twitter, then I am sure that they will either have an account or can sign up if they wish. Then they can read posts first hand if they wish. In other words, we are not an over flow of Twitter or its members I should also remind you that there is a, separated Topic for Covid in the Politics section of the Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazle Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, lazarus said: Ron Paul... There's no bigger idiot in Washington DC. Hands down. Have a think about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, fforest said: Ok here is the science Finally and its being spoken in government.... I've said it before and I'll say it again in case you missed it or require a booster shot. When you mix science and politics you get politics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Zeb said: Ah Clive. Hardly an oracle https://postimg.cc/Wq61MhRQ Of the two repulsive, repugnant, slimy, toxic creatures to come out of Queensland I do find the cane toad more likeable. Clive still working on ways to recoup the $30 million he lashed out trying to corner the hydroxychloroquine supply in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifelad55 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Bazle said: I have very mixed feelings about this. Whilst I applaud anything done to stop misinformation (which is often often disinformation) being spread, I am concerned about who will decide what is and what is not misinformation. We are really not very far away from the media (incl. big tech) determining what we should think. 1984 is back again with Faux News leading the way😬 Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Here's the learned opinion of a local research doctor I follow... (UCSF is one of the top medical universities in the world.) UCSF's Monica Gandhi on how COVID will impact your life over the next decade https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/UCSF-s-Monica-Gandhi-on-how-COVID-will-impact-16503949.php Excerpt: "... The COVID-19 virus has features that make it unlikely to be eradicated, including its ability to live in animals, its high level of transmissibility (especially of the delta variant), its similarities to other respiratory viruses (allowing it to hide in plain sight) and the ability of the virus to be transmitted during asymptomatic or presymptomatic infection, which allows carriers to spread the disease without knowing they’re making others sick. Even though we tried masks, distancing, ventilation, testing and contact tracing to various levels of success around the world, only mass immunity can bring COVID-19 under control. Fortunately, safe and effective vaccines for the disease were developed in a relatively short time compared to the history of any other vaccine (the first vaccine for influenza was developed in 1942, 24 years after the 1918 flu pandemic). These vaccines are the key to turning COVID-19 into an endemic — a controlled, communicable disease." ... 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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