john luke Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-airways-stop-using-ladies-25179323 British Airways to stop using 'ladies and gentlemen’ in announcements Britain's flagship carrier British Airways will abandon the “ladies and gentlemen” greeting to ensure that all “customers feel welcome” when travelling. British Airways has advised pilots and cabin crew to stop referring to passengers as “ladies and gentlemen” in onboard announcements and replace them with gender-neutral terms. Britain's flagship carrier has decided to abandon the greeting in order “to ensure that all our customers feel welcome when travelling with us” and celebrate “diversity and inclusion”. The move away from gender-specific to gender-neutral language brings the airline’s announcements in line with those made in airports. It also follows previous moves by Lufthansa earlier this year, and easyJet and Air Canada in 2019. In 2018, Quantas launched its “Spirit of Inclusion” initiative whereupon staff were encouraged to refrain from using gender-specific terms. BA’s recent decision is believed to have been partly driven by a change in its customers, according to the Telegraph. The airline is understood to be keen to respect new social norms as well as to make children feel included in the announcements, as a greater proportion of families travel since the easing of Covid restrictions. A BA spokesperson said: “We celebrate diversity and inclusion and we're committed to ensuring that all our customers feel welcome when travelling with us.” Last month, Air Malta announced it would also scrap phrases such as “welcome, ladies and gentleman” in favour of more inclusive language, such as: “Attention, all passengers.” Staff are now encouraged to refer to passengers as “guests” and other more universal terms in a bid to help trans, non-binary and intersex people feel comfortable, the airline said in a statement. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 As long as they aren't stingy with the champers who gives a fig 🙂 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, john luke said: stop using 'ladies and gentlemen’ Sexist expression that's way past it's expiration date. Time to get with the program... 🌈 Edited October 18, 2021 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Jesus……this is getting plain stupid. For me, this is right up there with putting up your “ holiday tree” in December 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Butch Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) So BA are abandoning their right to free speech to appease a minority of fuckwitts who don't know what sex they want to be. All under the banner of "inclusion". Well, newsflash, if you want to be included with everyone else, be normal like everyone else. As a "Gentleman" I am offended that my sexuality is being eroded by virtue of the fact I'm no longer referred to as a male, but rather as an even larger generalised term. Shining example of tolerance becoming appeasement. Edited October 18, 2021 by Butch 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Personally I have always liked the accuracy of the welcome of "Hi hansum man." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Jambo said: Personally I have always liked the accuracy of the welcome of "Hi hansum man." I'm normally referred to as ballast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If you're travelling with QuaintArse announcements are more likely to be "Oi, laze and gems. Listen up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Stillearly said: As long as they aren't stingy with the champers who gives a fig 🙂 So what ... I'm a World Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I only ever fly with Bad Airways as a last resort anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Oh FFS!!! Fly Woke or go home!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Smooth Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 10:25 AM, lazarus said: Sexist expression that's way past it's expiration date. Time to get with the program... 🌈 "Ladies and gentlemen" is an expression of courtesy. Has been that way for customers partaking in the hospitality industry for generations, especially when being welcomed aboard a flight. Nothing whatsoever "sexist" in nature about it. Just a further example of the corporate woke culture hoping to not be a future target of the perpetually offended class. Wonder if Emirates or Qatar will follow suit? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. Smooth said: "Ladies and gentlemen" is an expression of courtesy. Has been that way for customers partaking in the hospitality industry for generations, especially when being welcomed aboard a flight. Nothing whatsoever "sexist" in nature about it. Just a further example of the corporate woke culture hoping to not be a future target of the perpetually offended class. Wonder if Emirates or Qatar will follow suit? Old school sure...but this is not your daddy world anymore... "Shes are hes" and "theys are thems" etc. Honestly, I could give a rat's tail but this is a forum and we like to discuss things...so just for discussion's sake... . . . The More Inclusive Way To Say ‘Ladies And Gentlemen’ https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2019/12/the-more-inclusive-way-to-say-ladies-and-gentlemen/ “Ladies and gentlemen” is a common way to address a group of people, particularly in a formal, public setting. Long seen as a standard and polite—if not old-fashioned—way to address a group, its day has come and gone. Not everyone identifies as either a lady or a gentleman, and luckily, there’s an easy fix for addressing a crowd that is inclusive of all: “Welcome, everyone.” . . . Edited October 20, 2021 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, lazarus said: “Welcome, everyone.” Or "Welcome youse" if being polite... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, fygjam said: Or "Welcome youse" if being polite... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I was in my local pub last night discussing this very subject with a couple of " retired" ex-Hibs Casuals. We all generally agreed it was bollocks but I made the mistake of bringing up the various gender differentials in Thailand. It was all downhill after my explanation of "Toms". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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