Starshine Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just now, Chang_Paarp said: End of day 4 England 4 - 82 needing another 386 to win We might knock off the 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 82 - 4 at close of play. Root out in the last over. I'm wondering if its worth waking up for early tomorrow, or if it'll all be over? Did enjoy the stand-in commentators attempts at describing Root being hit twice in a day in a certain area of his body that should have been protected by a box. They decided, to save the BBC listeners blushes, on he was "hit in the abdomen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_Paarp Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Painter said: They decided, to save the BBC listeners blushes, on he was "hit in the abdomen". That was the official line out of the England camp at the beginning of the the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Painter said: 82 - 4 at close of play. Root out in the last over. I'm wondering if its worth waking up for early tomorrow, or if it'll all be over? Did enjoy the stand-in commentators attempts at describing Root being hit twice in a day in a certain area of his body that should have been protected by a box. They decided, to save the BBC listeners blushes, on he was "hit in the abdomen". That's bollocks from the BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Starshine said: That's bollocks from the BBC The Aussie commentators (well, Kim Hughes anyway) did go through a few options.... that one was omitted from the choice list! After Root was hit during play, one of the commentators did relate the story when he was hit by a net bowler, a spinner no less, in the nets. He was wearing a box, but unfortunately one of the appendages that was meant to be tucked inside the box had, er, come out from behind its protection, and was hit... Edited December 19, 2021 by Painter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Painter said: The Aussie commentators (well, Kim Hughes anyway) did go through a few options.... that one was omitted from the choice list! After Root was hit during play, one of the commentators did relate the story when he was hit by a net bowler, a spinner no less, in the nets. He was wearing a box, but unfortunately one of the appendages that was meant to be tucked inside the box had, er, come out from behind its protection, and was hit... Ouch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 for 105. Need another 363. Could be a short day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 All over red rover. All out 195. Australia wins by 275 runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Well done Australia Wonder what changes England will make for boxing day? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Painter said: Well done Australia Wonder what changes England will make for boxing day? Corporal Jones bowling and Private Godfrey at long off 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Starshine said: Corporal Jones bowling and Private Godfrey at long off Geoff boycott's aunt with a stick of rhubarb? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Apart from bringing back our one and only fast bowler I don't think we have anyone that'll make any difference. Maybe move Root & Malan up to open the batting & pack out the middle order.Root & Malan always come in so early they may as well open. When is Archer going to be fit again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Painter said: Well done Australia Wonder what changes England will make for boxing day? Get a decent batting coach for a start!!. Shot selection is fucking dire. Think Ramprakash is still coaching, but if he is he ain't doing much of a job. Never seen so many wickets thrown away like we have been doing this year, it's like they can't wait to get out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coxyhog Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Joe Root: I'm convinced we've got what we need to win Test matches over here but we're not going to if we keep missing chances and don't give ourselves an opportunity to get into the Test match with the bat. Is on another planet.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, coxyhog said: Joe Root: I'm convinced we've got what we need to win Test matches over here but we're not going to if we keep missing chances and don't give ourselves an opportunity to get into the Test match with the bat. Is on another planet.... Lessons learnt 🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_Paarp Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 13 hours ago, coxyhog said: Maybe move Root & Malan up to open the batting Why move Malan? Malan is usually on the field within the first couple of overs anyway, he has his pitch scouts out before him so he gets a report on the pitch conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 The Telegraph, London - Australia do not need to sledge England – their pity is even worse It is never pretty when, just two Tests in, an Ashes tour reaches the Pom-pitying stage. But already the chasm in class between these sides is so yawning, Australians broach the subject to English visitors in the manner of bereavement counsellors. “I won’t talk about the cricket,” Chris Smith, the Sydney radio presenter, assured me, after we had finished a breakfast discussion on Monday. “It’s not looking too rosy for you blokes. Maybe Melbourne will be different – let’s hope so.” Perhaps it will, although early series implosions tend to generate an irresistible momentum. Home advantage exerts such decisive influence that neither country has ever surmounted a 2-0 deficit during an overseas Ashes. England, down 2-0 in the series, are being killed with kindness. When England’s sole hope of sustaining the contest until the Boxing Day Test rested on Jos Buttler claiming a single off the last ball of every over to keep the strike, it was a fair sign their race was run. The Australians knew it, too, Mitchell Starc joshing with Stuart Broad in the comfort that it was never a question of whether they would polish England off, but when. After all, there were 23 overs still to play in the Adelaide twilight by the time Buttler stepped back on to his stumps. As the fateful red lights flashed, an unusual reaction could be heard from Australian commentators, conveying not triumphalism but sympathy. “Oh man, heartbreaking for Buttler,” Trent Copeland, the former New South Wales seamer, said. “Seriously well played.” His verdict was as magnanimous as it was accurate: Buttler played brilliantly against type for his 26 off 207 balls, transforming himself from arguably the most destructive force in white-ball cricket into a latter-day Mike Brearley. Still, it was disconcerting to hear voices here being quite so compassionate about his fate. For, as Ashes tourists, the English would far rather be the subjects of mockery than condolences. When Broad found his name excised from Brisbane media coverage in 2013 after refusing to walk, he could regard it as a badge of honour. Australians, scarred by his 22 wickets in their 3-0 series defeat three months earlier, were fearful of what he might do to them. The fact that there is no such goading today suggests that they no longer regard England as a threat. And why should they? In the nine Ashes series held in Australia since the Mike Gatting-led successes of 1986-87, the home team has won 30 Tests to England’s six. The margins of victory on this tour, by nine wickets at the Gabba and 275 runs in Adelaide, almost flatter the losers. It is hardly as if Joe Root’s players can blame the hostility of the Australian crowds. While fans at the Adelaide Oval could be rambunctious, one gentleman on the northern mound hitting the deck face-first after sculling multiple lagers for his friends’ benefit, they had nothing on the Hollies Stand at Edgbaston in full cry. The problem is that England are simply not giving their hosts the challenge they crave. As such, Australians are resisting kicking their opponents while they are down. This fits the model of captaincy established by Pat Cummins, who said in his opening address last month: “I think we’ve got to be a bit more understanding at times.” What was once a collection of incorrigible provocateurs – think back to Michael Clarke warning James Anderson to expect a “broken f------ arm” – has evolved into one of bleeding hearts. Despite facing one of the worst England teams in living memory, stand-in captain Steve Smith has been scrupulously diplomatic, commending Buttler in particular for his resilience. If they have any sense, England should see such remarks as indictments of their inadequacy. In the Ashes, it is far more reassuring to be teased than it is to be damned with faint praise. The teasing is what builds defences in a player, stirring the appetite for a response. Eighteen months after being derided in Queensland as “the 27-year-old medium pacer”, Broad blew away the Australians at Trent Bridge with figures of eight for 15. The only reason England are being spared abuse this time is because they are not good enough to offer a genuine rivalry. The same rule holds true in many sports. Loading It was no coincidence, for example, that the great former Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson forged his closest friendships in management with men such as Sam Allardyce and David Moyes, whose teams were never likely to pose a direct challenge to United’s dominance. “England are a good side,” Smith said, as he tried to galvanise his players for Melbourne. Except England are anything but a good side. Smith is simply buttering them up because Australia are in such serene control of the series. Having been outclassed in every department on the field, England now confront the final indignity of being killed with kindness. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-do-not-need-to-sledge-england-their-pity-is-even-worse-20211221-p59j6h.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59739472 So who will lose their job first,Boris or Chris Silverwood? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, coxyhog said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59739472 So who will lose their job first,Boris or Chris Silverwood? They would both be just effective if they did a job swap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, coxyhog said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59739472 So who will lose their job first,Boris or Chris Silverwood? Not sure whether Silverwood is deluded or just arrogant. How anyone can try to justify dropping both Anderson and Broad has got me lost. Your 2 most experienced bowlers sitting out a match we needed to win was crazy. Lose the first one and your already psychologically on an uphill battle. Everyone knows how tough beating them in their own backyard is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, galenkia said: Not sure whether Silverwood is deluded or just arrogant. How anyone can try to justify dropping both Anderson and Broad has got me lost. Your 2 most experienced bowlers sitting out a match we needed to win was crazy. Lose the first one and your already psychologically on an uphill battle. Everyone knows how tough beating them in their own backyard is. Yep, plus Leach surely would have performed better in Adelaide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Mark Wood quote on Sky Sports: "We obviously review the game, chat about what we did well, what we didn't do well, but this time it was sterner from Chris Silverwood," Wood said. Well the first bit of the chat must've been pretty short.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, coxyhog said: Mark Wood quote on Sky Sports: "We obviously review the game, chat about what we did well, what we didn't do well, but this time it was sterner from Chris Silverwood," Wood said. Well the first bit of the chat must've been pretty short.... Same old bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 This does not make for good reading....unless you're an Aussie.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59761497 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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