Esco Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, boydeste said: I hate the weather here and when it gets real icey in Jan/Feb time I am pretty much in isolation in my own home anyway. I decided that if I could get a visa for 90 days, I would go for it and suffer the quarantine. If I could of only got 60 days I may not of committed. It is all hanging now on a covid test and fit to fly 72 hours before the flights, so it can all fall apart very quickly! You can extend the 90 days as well and get a total of 270 days if im not mistaken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murchie Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 10 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: It's hard to gather what exactly is going up when you get some many conflicting media reports. The quality of English language journalism in Thailand is diabolical. Having said that, it's still a significant change for the better that the financial requirements have been dropped, and it's still much easier to enter than it was 2 months ago. How is this any easier than 2 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: I asked the embassy if the visa exemption was being reinstated. This was the reply... The visa exemption change went on the IATA requirements on Monday as approved to enter, so I suspect you just got a numpty that didn't know and didn't like to check. Edited December 16, 2020 by KWA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just saw this on a Philippine forum, quite a good link if looking for an overall view of entry restrictions of other nations. Provided by Korean Air. Only comment I noted was that it mentioned ASQ for Thai citizens which is true if not traveling on Thai airlines. I believe the free state quarantine is still provided to Thai citizens if traveling in on Thai. https://www.koreanair.com/global/en/2020_02_TSA_detail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 55 minutes ago, Horizondave said: Just saw this on a Philippine forum, quite a good link if looking for an overall view of entry restrictions of other nations. Provided by Korean Air. Only comment I noted was that it mentioned ASQ for Thai citizens which is true if not traveling on Thai airlines. I believe the free state quarantine is still provided to Thai citizens if traveling in on Thai. https://www.koreanair.com/global/en/2020_02_TSA_detail.html Any repat flight mate not just Thai. From Ams its the Thais flying with KLM that get SQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Esco said: Any repat flight mate not just Thai. From Ams its the Thais flying with KLM that get SQ. When I spoke with the UK embassy (in October) I was told that ex UK a Thai would only have SQ if they were flying with Thai which is why we booked Thai. I spoke to her about Emirates etc and she said Porn would have to pay for ASQ. Maybe when this whole repatriation thing started the rules were different but Porn booked direct with Thai, she did not book through the repatriation scheme which, as we know back in October, still had waitlists of many 100/100's of Thais waiting for a flight. That is why I thought it odd that Porn could book direct with Thai and still get SQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Murchie said: How is this any easier than 2 months ago. You don't need proof of £12,000 for a start, and brits weren't even getting accepted for certain visas, the list of ASQ hotels was well shorter as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I never said it was easier, I said it was easier than it was months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Horizondave said: Just saw this on a Philippine forum, quite a good link if looking for an overall view of entry restrictions of other nations. Provided by Korean Air. Only comment I noted was that it mentioned ASQ for Thai citizens which is true if not traveling on Thai airlines. I believe the free state quarantine is still provided to Thai citizens if traveling in on Thai. https://www.koreanair.com/global/en/2020_02_TSA_detail.html It seems that visa exemption is being reintroduced as the news reported then. Won't satisfy some, but a move in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: I never said it was easier, I said it was easier than it was months ago. As a non native speaker could you explain to me the difference between easier and easier? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Esco said: As a non native speaker could you explain to me the difference between easier and easier? Cheers. It was a typo, I meant to say easy, I can't edit posts for some reason. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murchie Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: You don't need proof of £12,000 for a start, and brits weren't even getting accepted for certain visas, the list of ASQ hotels was well shorter as well. Not having to show proof of money doesn't make it any easier to get a visa. Makes it more accessible but not any easier. Not getting accepted for certain visas!!!! Please tell me about these visas so I can at least apply for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Murchie said: Not having to show proof of money doesn't make it any easier to get a visa. Makes it more accessible but not any easier. Not getting accepted for certain visas!!!! Please tell me about these visas so I can at least apply for one. Of course it makes it easier. If you didn't have the money before but met all the requirements, you couldn't get in because you didn't have enough money. Now that barrier has been removed, if you meet the requirements you can get a visa. Maybe its to with wherever you are in the world, Brits don't seem to be having that much trouble getting visas at present. They'll have even less trouble in the next week when the visa exemption is reintroduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2037135/thailand-eases-curbs-on-travel BKK post reporting on the return of the visa exemption scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Oh oh... Darn "foreigners" ... 3 MORE VIRUS CASES LINKED TO COUNTRY’S LARGEST SEAFOOD MARKET https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/12/18/3-more-virus-cases-linked-to-countrys-largest-seafood-market/?fbclid=IwAR0XLO3XBv0FrN5hLe4HcVnrfahLCvcYGE8Z3uuiKyXfdajWEMi8_Kp0kA8 BANGKOK — Family members of a vendor at the country’s largest seafood market who tested positive for coronavirus earlier this week were found to have the virus themselves, health officials said Friday. The three new patients were identified as the seller’s 95-year-old mother, her 73-year-old sister, and her 57-year-old sister-in-law. Efforts are also underway to test hundreds of workers at Samut Sakhon’s Mahachai shrimp market, where the unnamed vendor was based. Although officials have yet to establish how she contracted the coronavirus, Sophon Iamsirithavorn, director of the health ministry’s communicable disease division, insisted these fresh domestic transmissions do not amount to a new wave of virus outbreak. “We’re conducting an outbreak investigation, but the patient must have been infected from another patient,” Sophon said. “This means that she may not be the first case to be discovered in the area. However, please be rest assured this does not mean a new wave of outbreak since that would only occur when the source of infection can’t be identified,” he continued. “In this case, we can still track the patients.” Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul instructed officials to “close the case” within one week in order to reassure the public safety for the upcoming New Year celebrations. He went on to suggest that foreigners might have been the source of the virus transmissions at the market. “I suspect that the patient might have been in close contact with the migrant workers,” Anutin said. “I’m confident that we can contain the infections.” The 67-year-old seafood seller tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday after she reportedly went to see a doctor for her muscle aches and loss of smell. She had no recent history of travelling outside the province, officials said. Up to 165 people may have been in close proximity with the woman, officials said. Samut Sakhon governor Veerasak Vijitsaengsri ordered the shrimp market to be closed for three days for disinfection. Hundreds of workers, many of them Myanmar nationals, were also put to the coronavirus tests, though none showed a positive so far. The shrimp market is part of the sprawling Mahachai wholesale market, where most of the country’s seafood is traded. Earlier this month, two people caught the coronavirus after coming into contact with a group of Thai workers who illegally crossed the border from Myanmar. The virus scare was fueled even further with the discovery of seven domestic cases stemming from an infected health worker who worked inside a quarantine facility in Bangkok. Thailand also reported new 15 virus cases found among returnees and travelers inside the state-run quarantine. As of Friday, 232 coronavirus patients remain in hospitals across Thailand, while 4,005 patients have recovered so far. The country’s cumulative case number now stands at 4,297, with 60 deaths reported by the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, lazarus said: Oh oh... Darn "foreigners" ... 3 MORE VIRUS CASES LINKED TO COUNTRY’S LARGEST SEAFOOD MARKET https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/12/18/3-more-virus-cases-linked-to-countrys-largest-seafood-market/?fbclid=IwAR0XLO3XBv0FrN5hLe4HcVnrfahLCvcYGE8Z3uuiKyXfdajWEMi8_Kp0kA8 BANGKOK — Family members of a vendor at the country’s largest seafood market who tested positive for coronavirus earlier this week were found to have the virus themselves, health officials said Friday. The three new patients were identified as the seller’s 95-year-old mother, her 73-year-old sister, and her 57-year-old sister-in-law. Efforts are also underway to test hundreds of workers at Samut Sakhon’s Mahachai shrimp market, where the unnamed vendor was based. Although officials have yet to establish how she contracted the coronavirus, Sophon Iamsirithavorn, director of the health ministry’s communicable disease division, insisted these fresh domestic transmissions do not amount to a new wave of virus outbreak. “We’re conducting an outbreak investigation, but the patient must have been infected from another patient,” Sophon said. “This means that she may not be the first case to be discovered in the area. However, please be rest assured this does not mean a new wave of outbreak since that would only occur when the source of infection can’t be identified,” he continued. “In this case, we can still track the patients.” Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul instructed officials to “close the case” within one week in order to reassure the public safety for the upcoming New Year celebrations. He went on to suggest that foreigners might have been the source of the virus transmissions at the market. “I suspect that the patient might have been in close contact with the migrant workers,” Anutin said. “I’m confident that we can contain the infections.” The 67-year-old seafood seller tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday after she reportedly went to see a doctor for her muscle aches and loss of smell. She had no recent history of travelling outside the province, officials said. Up to 165 people may have been in close proximity with the woman, officials said. Samut Sakhon governor Veerasak Vijitsaengsri ordered the shrimp market to be closed for three days for disinfection. Hundreds of workers, many of them Myanmar nationals, were also put to the coronavirus tests, though none showed a positive so far. The shrimp market is part of the sprawling Mahachai wholesale market, where most of the country’s seafood is traded. Earlier this month, two people caught the coronavirus after coming into contact with a group of Thai workers who illegally crossed the border from Myanmar. The virus scare was fueled even further with the discovery of seven domestic cases stemming from an infected health worker who worked inside a quarantine facility in Bangkok. Thailand also reported new 15 virus cases found among returnees and travelers inside the state-run quarantine. As of Friday, 232 coronavirus patients remain in hospitals across Thailand, while 4,005 patients have recovered so far. The country’s cumulative case number now stands at 4,297, with 60 deaths reported by the authorities. Makes me a bit dubious about Thailand's contact tracing and testing. In Sydney a couple of days ago they had 5 new cases, yesterday it was up to 17 associated cases, today it's 28 cases. In Thailand they can only find 3 cases because they all live members of the same household. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, lazarus said: Oh oh... Darn "foreigners" ... 3 MORE VIRUS CASES LINKED TO COUNTRY’S LARGEST SEAFOOD MARKET https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/12/18/3-more-virus-cases-linked-to-countrys-largest-seafood-market/?fbclid=IwAR0XLO3XBv0FrN5hLe4HcVnrfahLCvcYGE8Z3uuiKyXfdajWEMi8_Kp0kA8 BANGKOK — Family members of a vendor at the country’s largest seafood market who tested positive for coronavirus earlier this week were found to have the virus themselves, health officials said Friday. The three new patients were identified as the seller’s 95-year-old mother, her 73-year-old sister, and her 57-year-old sister-in-law. Efforts are also underway to test hundreds of workers at Samut Sakhon’s Mahachai shrimp market, where the unnamed vendor was based. Although officials have yet to establish how she contracted the coronavirus, Sophon Iamsirithavorn, director of the health ministry’s communicable disease division, insisted these fresh domestic transmissions do not amount to a new wave of virus outbreak. “We’re conducting an outbreak investigation, but the patient must have been infected from another patient,” Sophon said. “This means that she may not be the first case to be discovered in the area. However, please be rest assured this does not mean a new wave of outbreak since that would only occur when the source of infection can’t be identified,” he continued. “In this case, we can still track the patients.” Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul instructed officials to “close the case” within one week in order to reassure the public safety for the upcoming New Year celebrations. He went on to suggest that foreigners might have been the source of the virus transmissions at the market. “I suspect that the patient might have been in close contact with the migrant workers,” Anutin said. “I’m confident that we can contain the infections.” The 67-year-old seafood seller tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday after she reportedly went to see a doctor for her muscle aches and loss of smell. She had no recent history of travelling outside the province, officials said. Up to 165 people may have been in close proximity with the woman, officials said. Samut Sakhon governor Veerasak Vijitsaengsri ordered the shrimp market to be closed for three days for disinfection. Hundreds of workers, many of them Myanmar nationals, were also put to the coronavirus tests, though none showed a positive so far. The shrimp market is part of the sprawling Mahachai wholesale market, where most of the country’s seafood is traded. Earlier this month, two people caught the coronavirus after coming into contact with a group of Thai workers who illegally crossed the border from Myanmar. The virus scare was fueled even further with the discovery of seven domestic cases stemming from an infected health worker who worked inside a quarantine facility in Bangkok. Thailand also reported new 15 virus cases found among returnees and travelers inside the state-run quarantine. As of Friday, 232 coronavirus patients remain in hospitals across Thailand, while 4,005 patients have recovered so far. The country’s cumulative case number now stands at 4,297, with 60 deaths reported by the authorities. You highlighted the part where it mentioned 'foreigners might have been the source' yet no where does it mention any foreigners, migrants being found to be positive. What it does say is that Myanmar nationals have been tested and found not to be positive, Thais have caught the virus after coming into contact with a group of Thai workers who illegally crossed the border from Myanmar and 7 domestic cases found after being infected by a health worker who worked in a quarantine facility so the Health Minister should keep his trap shut and deal with facts. If no foreigners have been shown to be infected anything else is pure speculation and is not what a Thai citizen should hear from his government although maybe it is what they want to hear irrespective of the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Horizondave said: You highlighted the part where it mentioned 'foreigners might have been the source' yet no where does it mention any foreigners, migrants being found to be positive. What it does say is that Myanmar nationals have been tested and found not to be positive, Thais have caught the virus after coming into contact with a group of Thai workers who illegally crossed the border from Myanmar and 7 domestic cases found after being infected by a health worker who worked in a quarantine facility so the Health Minister should keep his trap shut and deal with facts. If no foreigners have been shown to be infected anything else is pure speculation and is not what a Thai citizen should hear from his government although maybe it is what they want to hear irrespective of the truth. Exactly. Makes one wonder what is truly going on? Edited December 19, 2020 by lazarus spelling error 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 There have been several strange situations of local transmission lately that have been explained away in the most peculiar manner, but whatever, people aren't dropping dead on the street and the country continues on much as normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 hours ago, lazarus said: Exactly. Make one wonder what is truly going on? What is going on is that they only test international arrivals, or clandestines having crossed the border, so of course the majority of the "catch" are non-thai. Let them test a few UNI classes, the cops, or a few regiments in the army....you'll see the results ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: There have been several strange situations of local transmission lately that have been explained away in the most peculiar manner, but whatever, people aren't dropping dead on the street and the country continues on much as normal... If they're dropping dead on the streets they probably get mixed in with the traffic accident victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esco Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Thai Spice said: What is going on is that they only test international arrivals, or clandestines having crossed the border, so of course the majority of the "catch" are non-thai. Let them test a few UNI classes, the cops, or a few regiments in the army....you'll see the results ! Err... The majority of those international arrivals happen to be Thais and there are positive cases of both farangs and Thais reported daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpuynarak Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I think the best course of action is to not believe anything the Thai authorities have to say regarding Covid infections, they are not known to admit to anything that shows Thailand in a bad light imo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Esco said: Err... The majority of those international arrivals happen to be Thais and there are positive cases of both farangs and Thais reported daily. Ok, how many Thais are tested daily, nationwide ? Compare that number now with say UK, France or Germany ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 They did a test in a school here in Bali early this month. Look at the results, 77% positive.....needless to say, they didn't tried again in another school. https://coconuts.co/bali/news/more-than-200-students-in-bali-polytechnic-school-test-positive-for-coronavirus/ Another example ? Bali governor wanted to show the example and had everybody tested at the governors residence.... 20 persons positive. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejakartapost.com/amp/news/2020/09/26/over-20-people-test-positive-for-covid-19-at-bali-governors-residence.html So yes, if you dont test you dont have cases. And thats why countries like Thailand, Indo, VN, etc dont test ..... So the number look good. Miraculous even ! Now again, testing positive doesn't mean anything. The death rate amongst positives is something like 0,02 or 0,03 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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