tommy dee Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 am rebuilding swimming pool so dont wish for a ban for a week please, NIMBY :) then after that.. fine by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freee!! Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, tommy dee said: am rebuilding swimming pool so dont wish for a ban for a week please, NIMBY 🙂 then after that.. fine by me But it isn't a swimming pool, it is an additional water reservoir 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Today's update on the shrinking Mabprachan Reservoir. As before, here's the Google Earth view of today's route and picture taking spots. Pic 01: Not much movement, if any of the shoreline from the last update 12 days ago. Pic 02: However definitely more land that was previously underwater is now exposed. Pic 04 They now have a pump ready to pupmp water over a land bridge so the pumping station farther north has access to what's left of the main body of trapped water. Guessing the water level is down another 1/2 meter from 12 days ago. Pic 05: Won't be long before that spit of land in the distance becomes a land bridge all the way across the north end of the reservoir. On the left side of the pic you can see how the main body of water is now cutoff from the channel that leads to the pump station by another land bridge heading to the north. I don't know why they don't get an excavator in and cut a channel through rather than pumping the water over. Pic 06: Since the channel into the pumping station is now on higher ground than the main body of water to the south, they had to build a retaining wall and now have to pump the water into the pond. The gate was unlocked so had a peak at the pumps in the pumping station. Pic 07 Pic 08 Pic 09: A few puddles of water left on the north end, but no way to get it to the pumping station. Pic 10 Pic 11 Pic 12 Pic 13 Pic 14: If I had wanted to, I could have rode my mtn bike from this side of the reservoir over to the other side using the land bridge in the center of this pic. Pic 15: Instead I rode out the spit of land a bit farther south. View to the north while standing on land that was underwater 12 days ago. For comparison, pic 19 in the screenshot below was how far I could ride my bike out on 28 January. Pic 16: The intake water line for the retention pond on the southwest corner of the reservoir is really having to extend out to get to the main body of water now. Pic 17: I was told by someone that lives in the area this retention pond and pump house is used to supply water to the new Flowerland tourist trap. Probably in another month or so all the tourists will see for their entrance fee is a bunch of wilted flowers. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Had a nice ride out to Huai Chak Nok Reservoir today. The water situation is looking pretty dire there too. Google Earth view of the photo stops today. I've also noted the change in the water's edge since the last update on 28 December. Pic 1 Pic 2 For comparison, pic from 28 December Pic 3: Workers taking advantage of the low water levels to dig a channel into the shallow part of the reservoir. Should help in future draughts as they won't have to set up pumps to get the water from the shallow areas into the main body of water. Pic 4 Pic 5 Pic 6: Interesting erosion lines and rock structures in the exposed lakebed. Pic 7 Final pic is looking at the south end of the reservoir on the other side of the road. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 great pics as always. the turckas rent just making a channel, they are selling the sand to builders :) fwiw the water table here, i live same area, is on the drop too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcharliemofo Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I was in LK Metro on Thursday night, 2 tankers went in there and 1 this morning too. Tony's Gym on Khoa Talo has a sign up today "No Water" and also a couple of the small tankers delivering water to places on Khoa Talo today. How many days rain would it take to get that water level back up to a decent level ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, mrcharliemofo said: I was in LK Metro on Thursday night, 2 tankers went in there and 1 this morning too. Tony's Gym on Khoa Talo has a sign up today "No Water" and also a couple of the small tankers delivering water to places on Khoa Talo today. How many days rain would it take to get that water level back up to a decent level ? I'm seeing a lot more water delivery trucks about lately. I know there's been periodic water outages around Pattaya, but I don't know if it's to conserve water or because of the infrastructure improvements going on. @tommy dee, do you have contacts within the city govt that you can use to find out what type of measures are taking place to conserve water? And if they are water outages, when, where and for how long are they occurring? As for the amount of rain needed to get us back up to a decent level, that won't happen until the next rainy season. What we need is the remnants of a typhoon to move into our area. That happened back in September 2015 when the remnants of tropical storm Vamco hit Pattaya. This picture is from September 7, 2015. It should look familiar as that's what the "island" looks like now. On September 14, Vamco made landfall in Vietnam. A couple of days later we were inundated in Pattaya. On September 21 we had our island back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Like posters above, the small water tankers have been very evident along buckhou and its side sois over the past few days, much more so than last week. There were 2 delivering water to a walking street gogo on Wednesday about 11pm The massage place the gf works in ran out of water yesterday. It took the tanker so long to arrive as it was busy that she and her colleagues walked to her room to use the toilet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 We're probably seeing the beginning of the impact the drought is going to have on Pattaya, and also other cities around Thailand. My guess is in the coming weeks we'll see more and more news reports on how the lack of water is affecting businesses. Worse case scenario, hotels lack the water for their guests to take showers, or Buddha forbid the soapies have to shut down for lack of soapy water. Not a good time to be running a tourist oriented business in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 our studios have water on for a few hours a day i think at night. we arrive and fill the dustbins in the toilets quickly as by mid day now ater at all. i have one tank ont he roof, 2K litre i think, but it never gets full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_Paarp Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, forcebwithu said: We're probably seeing the beginning of the impact the drought is going to have on Pattaya, and also other cities around Thailand. My guess is in the coming weeks we'll see more and more news reports on how the lack of water is affecting businesses. Worse case scenario, hotels lack the water for their guests to take showers, or Buddha forbid the soapies have to shut down for lack of soapy water. Not a good time to be running a tourist oriented business in Thailand. Good thing tourism is way down. No-one around to tell their friends how bad things are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, forcebwithu said: @tommy dee, do you have contacts within the city govt that you can use to find out what type of measures are taking place to conserve water? And if they are water outages, when, where and for how long are they occurring? It is very disappointing that nothing appears to be being done to conserve water. At the very least, I would have hoped my condo management would have put up signs asking residents to limit their use of water as much as possible. Also, I would have expected for there to be a ban on water features, such as the one at Central Festival. Where does the trucked-in water originate from? How long will that supply last for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Bazle said: It is very disappointing that nothing appears to be being done to conserve water. At the very least, I would have hoped my condo management would have put up signs asking residents to limit their use of water as much as possible. Also, I would have expected for there to be a ban on water features, such as the one at Central Festival. Where does the trucked-in water originate from? How long will that supply last for? The silence has been deafening from govt officials about measures they have or intend to put into place to conserve water. If they are limiting water via outages, it sure would be nice if they would publicize that so we can plan our water use accordingly. But seeing as how Thailand is so keen on putting their best face forward to the world, that's probably why they're being tight lipped about the draught. I also wonder if that's why the Weekly Water Situation report hasn't been updated for over two weeks now. Based on the reports that have been published, my back of the napkin estimate was they had about seven weeks of water left as of 31 January. As for the source of water for the trucked in water, it's like when you eat a hot dog, you're probably better off not knowing the source. But since you asked, I see them filling up at various scum filled, smelly brown water ponds that are scattered throughout the area. It's water I wouldn't even want to wash my feet with. Edited February 15, 2020 by forcebwithu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 According to the Provincial Waterworks Authority has Pattaya at least enough water to last through June. https://www.pattayamail.com/featured/pattaya-has-enough-water-until-june-pwa-288091 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 most,e xcept the rogue, truck fill up from filling stations that pump up to tanks from the water table below ground. the old trick of taking from ponds and streams is pretty much histroy except for the old conners that i guess are still around. i had 8 huge tanks last week for the pool refill, crystal clear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Sigi said: According to the Provincial Waterworks Authority has Pattaya at least enough water to last through June. https://www.pattayamail.com/featured/pattaya-has-enough-water-until-june-pwa-288091 🙂 That news article doesn't instill much confidence when stating "they currently have 264,000 cubic meters of water" as water capacity is measured in million cubic meters (MCM). And even if they got the units wrong, there's no way the combined total capacity of the area reservoirs is 264,000 MCM. To put into perspective how small 264,000 cubic meters of water is. We have 15 weeks until June. That means the weekly water consumption rate to make it to June would have to be 17,600 cubic meters/week. One Google source states the average household use of water is .78 cubic meters. So 17,600 cubic meters of water/week would supply at most 22,600 households. From Wiki, a 2010 census put the population of Pattaya, which doesn't include tourists at 320,262. That is about 127,088 households using an average of 2.52 people per household. So I call BS that we can make it to June on the available water. The only way we're going to make even to April is if the city supply also uses bore holes to tap the aquifer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Sat in a bar about 3pm for 20 minutes this afternoon on soi buckhou, we saw 5 tankers going along the soi. One I saw three times, so I guess going to deliver, returning to fill up, the heading for delivery 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 The Eastern Water Resources dept has finally gotten around to updating their Weekly Water Situation reports for February 7th & 14th. Consumption has slowed from 6 million cubic meters (MCM)/week to about 4 MCM/week. Storage volume as of 14 Feb was 67.5 MCM. Subtracting the minimum storage volume of 31.7 MCM leaves about 36 MCM of usable water, or about a 9 week supply at current consumption levels. That will get us to 17 April, far short of June that a recent PWA news report would have us believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalliwag Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Wooohooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 @forcebwithu I hope you don't think I took the article from Pattaya Mail seriously! I just wanted to show how officials react at this misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Sigi said: @forcebwithu I hope you don't think I took the article from Pattaya Mail seriously! I just wanted to show how officials react at this misery. Nah, saw the smiley face in your post. I just wanted to point out how flawed the number quoted in the article was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Evil Penevil Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Another official response: Quote Thai Government says despite drought water supply sufficient until rainy season By Adam Judd LOPBURI (NNT) – The Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives has assured the public of sufficient water throughout the remaining dry season, while relevant agencies work to refill dams along the Chao Phraya River. Deputy Agriculture Minister Thammanat Prompow, together with executives and officers from relevant agencies gathered at Pasak Jolasid Dam in Lopburi province yesterday to assess the effects of the present drought. Following a helicopter flight over the area, Thammanat stressed that the drought this year might be considered the worst in many years, however, the Royal Irrigation Department has assured farmers and members of the public, that the remaining water will be sufficient for normal daily activities, except for out-of-season rice farming. Statistics compiled at the four major dams namely Bhumibol, Sirikit, Kwae Noi Bam Rung Dan and Pasak Jolasid, today show roughly 3.477 billion cubic meters or 19% of the total capacity is in storage, after a continuous reduction from November’s measurement of 5.377 billion cubic meter. The water level at that time was already considered the second-lowest in 20 years, just behind 2015 that stands at just 4.247 billion cubic square meters. The lower than usual water levels in the dams is due to unusual weather patterns, resulting in less-than-usual precipitation. The public is urged to use water sparingly while agriculturalists must refrain from conducting out-of-season rice farming. A full rainmaking operation is slated to be carried out starting today, to enable the dams to increase water storage. Drought in the kingdom usually runs from November to May. Edited February 17, 2020 by Evil Penevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy dee Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said: Another official response: then it must be so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said: A full rainmaking operation is.... And just what is a full rainmaking operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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