Krapow Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Kathmandu said: Facts and logic have no place on this thread ffs From Totalitarian Governments, to European democracies, they all have their best virologists and epidemiologists, those who have spent their whole life studying such viruses, advising on how best to beat this virus. But what do they know! Two desperados on a Pattaya Sex Pest forum know better. I'm proud to be a member of this forum, and sleep better each night after reading the pearls of wisdom 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The real reason some on this forum don't like masks... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just been announced on BBC News , not sure why they are waiting 11days to bring it in. Police to be able to issue £100 fines for those that ignore the rule on face masks in shops. That’ll make them popular. 🤔 Coronavirus: Face coverings in England's shops to be compulsory from 24 July https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53397617 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, KhunDon said: Just been announced on BBC News , not sure why they are waiting 11days to bring it in. Police to be able to issue £100 fines for those that ignore the rule on face masks in shops. That’ll make them popular. 🤔 Coronavirus: Face coverings in England's shops to be compulsory from 24 July https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53397617 It's good news for shop staff,but as you say why the wait? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Kathmandu said: Who the hell wears a mask at home? Safety man....you never know, you open the window and a gust of wind blows a zillions viruses in your room ..... I read it in the papers, so it must be true ! 🤣🤣🤣😄😄😅😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Amazing how most people just follow whatever their governments tell them to do..... Happy to still be a revolutionary and rebel, even at 67, age I am supposed to fall dead in the street if I dont wear a mask and use the magic soap 10 times a day .... But then again it was the same with HIV, and now the "new normal" is with condom. Well, f**k that also. I prefer to follow medical advice. You won't fall dead on the street without a mask, but you might do.later. we only get one life, it just depends on how you look after it. I tend to read, listen and research, then make what I consider to be an informed and rational decision. I don't act for the government, I act for myself and other humans I am in contact with. It really is that simple. Politics does not enter the equation As for comparing HIV with Corona virus is irrelevant Just as HIV sufferers can now go on to lead a reasonably normal life with available medication, and as far as I am aware there is a vaccine now In the near future it is highly unlikely that anyone will be using masks once there is a vaccine and the development of reliable medical treatment to help reduce the likelihood of death. At the time when HIV arrived, it was a death sentence for most and all of us had a choice as to how we had sex. No one forced us. But during that time, if people had ignored advice then the HIV virus would have become far more widespread than it was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, coxyhog said: It's good news for shop staff,but as you say why the wait? I assume to give people time to buy or make a mask ... even yesterday the Govt ( Gove ) was saying they weren't going to make it mandatory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 hours ago, code_slayer_bkk said: Don't you wash your hands normally ? No, I disagree with your statement -- " There are many laws in society that could be seen as restriction of freedom or state controlled " f**k me .. who are couple of politicians to control our destiny ? That is seems to boil down to ... what the f**k gives them superior rights to dictate another ? Of course I have always washed my hands but not nearly as much as I do at the moment. Not because they are dirty but because they may be contaminated Well, without laws and some form of control, we would have anarchy because unfortunately there are always going to be those who display immoral, selfish and criminal behaviour. It is clear that we are not civilised enough for life to be that way. People have a choice to vote for politicians. If you don't use your democratic right then don't complain. Simple. Wearing a facemask for a few months is hardly controlling anyone's destiny. It is just a minor and temporary inconvenience and nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said: Of course I have always washed my hands but not nearly as much as I do at the moment. Not because they are dirty but because they may be contaminated Well, without laws and some form of control, we would anarchy because unfortunately there are always going to be those who display immoral, selfish and criminal behaviour. It is clear that we are not civilised enough for life to be that way. People have a choice to vote for politicians. If you don't use your democratic right then don't complain. Simple. Wearing a facemask for a few months is hardly controlling anyone's destiny. It is just a minor and temporary inconvenience and nothing more. My goodness...... You forget to end your text with "Amen" ......🙄🙄🙄🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: My goodness...... You forget to end your text with "Amen" ......🙄🙄🙄🙄 Why,? I am not religious, I am just stating the truth as I see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers4Life Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said: I prefer to follow medical advice. You won't fall dead on the street without a mask, but you might do.later. we only get one life, it just depends on how you look after it. I tend to read, listen and research, then make what I consider to be an informed and rational decision. I don't act for the government, I act for myself and other humans I am in contact with. It really is that simple. Politics does not enter the equation As for comparing HIV with Corona virus is irrelevant Just as HIV sufferers can now go on to lead a reasonably normal life with available medication, and as far as I am aware there is a vaccine now In the near future it is highly unlikely that anyone will be using masks once there is a vaccine and the development of reliable medical treatment to help reduce the likelihood of death. At the time when HIV arrived, it was a death sentence for most and all of us had a choice as to how we had sex. No one forced us. But during that time, if people had ignored advice then the HIV virus would have become far more widespread than it was. Good Post! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqualung Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'll be wearing a mask tomorrow as it's compulsory at Manchester Airport. Not bothered as me teeth are fooked anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nightcrawler said: In the near future it is highly unlikely that anyone will be using masks once there is a vaccine and the development of reliable medical treatment to help reduce the likelihood of death. I wil bet any one THE MASKS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED AFTER A VACCINE.. The excuse will be the vaccine is not 100% effective so we must keep wearing masks... Folks the masks are here to stay.... The only escape from the mask is to quit wearing it.... I have been mask free and will continue to be mask free.. Edited July 13, 2020 by fforest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, coxyhog said: It's good news for shop staff,but as you say why the wait? Very few of the staff at my local big supermarket have been wearing masks. I presume they, as well as the customers, will need to do so in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, fforest said: I wil bet any one THE MASKS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED AFTER A VACCINE.. The excuse will be the vaccine is not 100% effective so we must keep wearing masks... Folks the masks are here to stay.... The only escape from the mask is to quit wearing it.... So just to confirm, what you're saying is everyone will have to wear masks forever more, yea? How much do you want in this bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, fforest said: I wil bet any one THE MASKS WILL STILL BE REQUIRED AFTER A VACCINE.. The excuse will be the vaccine is not 100% effective so we must keep wearing masks... Folks the masks are here to stay.... The only escape from the mask is to quit wearing it.... I have been mask free and will continue to be mask free.. It's to stay for a long time for sure..... Look at places "deconfining" but the price to pay is masks and social distances ... But hey, if the masses applaud, let them wear it. Next is condom.+ mask when shagging...... Oh, and clean your cock with da magic soap ! Anyway, at the pool, off for a beer later and lunch at the beach. Extra dose of red wine, it's French National day ! Or "Bastille day" for the Anglo Saxons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Why would governments or anyone want people to wear masks for the rest of their lives? Why would anyone chose to wear a mask for the rest of their lives in public? C19 won't be around forever but if it was, eventually there will be both antivirals and vaccines to fight it. Masks alone will not prevent it but they help to slow it down as does with social distancing. We have reach a peak and the curve of infections and deaths is down to what it was in Feb/March. That is not because it is burning out because of the precautions being taken. It isn't such a good picture in India, Brazil and USA. I see face masks, social distancing, hand sanitising and in some cases, self isolation, as a sticking plaster whilst we wait for an effective cure and a vaccine. It may take longer than we want to wait, but we are stuck with it. Short term it's a f***ing drag for all of us, Spanish flu eventually disappeared and that was without the science and technology that we have today but not before it killed millions across the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: It's to stay for a long time for sure..... Look at places "deconfining" but the price to pay is masks and social distances ... But hey, if the masses applaud, let them wear it. Next is condom.+ mask when shagging...... Oh, and clean your cock with da magic soap ! Anyway, at the pool, off for a beer later and lunch at the beach. Extra dose of red wine, it's French National day ! Or "Bastille day" for the Anglo Saxons. Consider yourself lucky. If you don't have to or want to, good for you but your experience maybe very different to those living in big cities like Houston, Texas at the moment. If you did, maybe you might have a different mind set. You refer to the " masses" as if somehow a majority have been brainwashed and perhaps your knowledge, intelligence and foresight is superior in some way and you know best. You certainly know what is best for YOU. Are you a Scientist ? Me neither Are you a Medical Doctor? Me neither Are you a Politician ? Me neither Are you a Clarevoyant? Me neither We all have access to the same data, news, media etc The difference is the way we individually absorb information and disinformation, sift it and form an opinion based usually on a preconceived notion. Denial is also another option. Truth is None of us know how long the virus is going to be prevelent in most countries or how long it will take for it to become less of a threat than it is currently. Maybe God has the answers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Krapow said: I'm proud to be a member of this forum, and sleep better each night after reading the pearls of wisdom Yeah, I can now just ignore all these new cases in the US. Whew, that was a close one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 If you don't believe in science, or think COVID is a political hoax please skip this post. Information about the dangers of COVID for younger folks (not many on this forum I know). Published:July 13, 2020. ...take a look at this:UCSF Study: 1 In 3 (US) Young Adults Vulnerable For Severe COVID-19; Smoking A Determining Factor https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/ucsf-study-1-in-3-young-adults-vulnerable-severe-covid-19-coronavirus/ One in three young adults is at risk of severe Covid-19, and smoking plays a big part in that risk, according to new research published Monday in the Journal of Adolescent Health. Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, looked at more than 8,000 participants ages 18 to 25 who had participated in the National Health Interview Survey to see what their medical vulnerability to severe Covid-19 was in relation to risk indicators that had been set out by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, including health conditions and smoking habits. The researchers found 32% of the total study population were medically vulnerable for severe Covid-19. However, when the group of participants who smoked cigarettes or e-cigarettes were taken out of the analysis, the medically vulnerable percentage decreased by half, to 16%... ...“Recent evidence indicates that smoking is associated with a higher likelihood of COVID-19 progression, including increased illness severity, ICU admission or death,” said Sally Adams, lead author of the study and a specialist at University of California, San Francisco’s National Adolescent and Young Adult Health Information Center, in a press release. “Smoking may have significant effects in young adults, who typically have low rates for most chronic diseases.”... . . . Medical Vulnerability of Young Adults to Severe COVID-19 Illness—Data From the National Health Interview Survey https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(20)30338-4/fulltext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Krapow said: So just to confirm, what you're saying is everyone will have to wear masks forever more, yea? How much do you want in this bet? Can I get a piece of that action? Like taking candy from a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, lazarus said: If you don't believe in science, or think COVID is a political hoax please skip this post. Information about the dangers of COVID for younger folks (not many on this forum I know). Published:July 13, 2020. ...take a look at this:UCSF Study: 1 In 3 (US) Young Adults Vulnerable For Severe COVID-19; Smoking A Determining Factor https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/ucsf-study-1-in-3-young-adults-vulnerable-severe-covid-19-coronavirus/ One in three young adults is at risk of severe Covid-19, and smoking plays a big part in that risk, according to new research published Monday in the Journal of Adolescent Health. Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, looked at more than 8,000 participants ages 18 to 25 who had participated in the National Health Interview Survey to see what their medical vulnerability to severe Covid-19 was in relation to risk indicators that had been set out by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, including health conditions and smoking habits. The researchers found 32% of the total study population were medically vulnerable for severe Covid-19. However, when the group of participants who smoked cigarettes or e-cigarettes were taken out of the analysis, the medically vulnerable percentage decreased by half, to 16%... ...“Recent evidence indicates that smoking is associated with a higher likelihood of COVID-19 progression, including increased illness severity, ICU admission or death,” said Sally Adams, lead author of the study and a specialist at University of California, San Francisco’s National Adolescent and Young Adult Health Information Center, in a press release. “Smoking may have significant effects in young adults, who typically have low rates for most chronic diseases.”... . . . Medical Vulnerability of Young Adults to Severe COVID-19 Illness—Data From the National Health Interview Survey https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(20)30338-4/fulltext Yep, and now Trump thinks it's a great time to open up the schools ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, lazarus said: If you don't believe in science, or think COVID is a political hoax please skip this post. Information about the dangers of COVID for younger folks (not many on this forum I know). Published:July 13, 2020. ...take a look at this:UCSF Study: 1 In 3 (US) Young Adults Vulnerable For Severe COVID-19; Smoking A Determining Factor https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/ucsf-study-1-in-3-young-adults-vulnerable-severe-covid-19-coronavirus/ One in three young adults is at risk of severe Covid-19, and smoking plays a big part in that risk, according to new research published Monday in the Journal of Adolescent Health. Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, looked at more than 8,000 participants ages 18 to 25 who had participated in the National Health Interview Survey to see what their medical vulnerability to severe Covid-19 was in relation to risk indicators that had been set out by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, including health conditions and smoking habits. The researchers found 32% of the total study population were medically vulnerable for severe Covid-19. However, when the group of participants who smoked cigarettes or e-cigarettes were taken out of the analysis, the medically vulnerable percentage decreased by half, to 16%... ...“Recent evidence indicates that smoking is associated with a higher likelihood of COVID-19 progression, including increased illness severity, ICU admission or death,” said Sally Adams, lead author of the study and a specialist at University of California, San Francisco’s National Adolescent and Young Adult Health Information Center, in a press release. “Smoking may have significant effects in young adults, who typically have low rates for most chronic diseases.”... . . . Medical Vulnerability of Young Adults to Severe COVID-19 Illness—Data From the National Health Interview Survey https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(20)30338-4/fulltext There was another "scientific review" 2 months ago saying exactly the opposite... Anyway, smokers continue to puff on... Never mind the cancer ! https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/smoking-and-covid-19 Who read this shit anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code_slayer_bkk Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nightcrawler said: Of course I have always washed my hands but not nearly as much as I do at the moment. Not because they are dirty but because they may be contaminated Well, without laws and some form of control, we would have anarchy because unfortunately there are always going to be those who display immoral, selfish and criminal behaviour. It is clear that we are not civilised enough for life to be that way. People have a choice to vote for politicians. If you don't use your democratic right then don't complain. Simple. Wearing a facemask for a few months is hardly controlling anyone's destiny. It is just a minor and temporary inconvenience and nothing more. Yea .. I agree with most of your post ... but without coppers ( DEA, ATF, FBI, and US Marshals combined ) they wouldn't have caught me .... I was a little out of control -- looking back on it ... but, I agree with your law enforcement statements .. I paid my dues and then some .. for sure .. and I am a better man because of it all ! But face masks -- they go against my grain .. for sure .. it feels to me someone is forcing me to do something I will or not do ... and I have consideration for everyone .. If I was sick I would go to the hospital ... and please don't give me any of the asymmetrical bullshit .. face masks ( sorry to say ) are here forever .. "nice" going government control .. fucking sad Edited July 14, 2020 by code_slayer_bkk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, code_slayer_bkk said: But face masks -- they go against my grain... Too bad that a guy whose gone through the shit you have is concerned about something as stupid as wearing a face mask. Whatever, you do c-19 your way and I'll do it mine, as long as you stay out of my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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