lazarus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Covid infection increases the risk of a cardiovascular disorder after recovery. You do not want to contract Covid. _______________________________________ ...our results show that 1-year risks and burdens of cardiovascular diseases among those who survive the acute phase of COVID-19 are substantial and span several cardiovascular disorders. Care strategies of people who survived the acute episode of COVID-19 should include attention to cardiovascular health and disease. The broader implications of these findings are clear. Cardiovascular complications have been described in the acute phase of COVID-19 (refs. 6,7,8). Our study shows that the risk of incident cardiovascular disease extends well beyond the acute phase of COVID-19. First, the findings emphasize the need for continued optimization of strategies for primary prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infections; that is, the best way to prevent Long COVID and its myriad complications, including the risk of serious cardiovascular sequelae, is to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection in the first place. Second, given the large and growing number of people with COVID-19 (more than 72 million people in the United States, more than 16 million people in the United Kingdom and more than 355 million people globally), the risks and 12-month burdens of cardiovascular diseases reported here might translate into a large number of potentially affected people around the world. Governments and health systems around the world should be prepared to deal with the likely significant contribution of the COVID-19 pandemic to a rise in the burden of cardiovascular diseases. Because of the chronic nature of these conditions, they will likely have long-lasting consequences for patients and health systems and also have broad implications on economic productivity and life expectancy. Addressing the challenges posed by Long COVID will require a much-needed, but so far lacking, urgent and coordinated long-term global response strategy9,10. Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Kathmandu said: I sure hope the new rules apply only to those fully vaccinated? If you choose to be un-vaccinated then wear that mask and don't try to show some phony vaccination record. Better yet, camp out behind your couch until you change your mind. Going on my recent getting around....people both jabbed and unjabbed just want to get on with life and most are starting to do so. The ones who seem to be hiding behind the the couch are the ones who have been jabbed a couple of times... for reasons only known to them. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 At times the Thais do show common sense. That's the vaccinated percentage for the entire population, probably significantly higher for the adult and older children population. I wonder when they will require long term stayers to show proof of vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, fygjam said: I wonder when they will require long term stayers to show proof of vaccination. Not soon enough as there are potential contagion spreaders roaming far and wide flouting regulations through their pig-headed selfishness. 🐷 🦘 Edited February 10, 2022 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tko Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, lazarus said: Not soon enough as there are potential contagion spreaders roaming far and wide floating regulations through their pig-headed selfishness. 🐷 The vaccines don't stop people from getting or spreading the contagion. They can only protect the vaccinated from more severe cases. I and all of my family that are eligible are vaccinated, to protect ourselves, but that doesn't affect the spread of covid. The tenacity of the virus does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 19 hours ago, lazarus said: @Yessongs -- gotta keep that mask on a bit longer! 😷 All Bay Area counties except one will lift indoor mask mandate next week https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/All-but-one-Bay-Area-counties-will-lift-indoor-16844824.php ... Santa Clara County will stand alone in the Bay Area in keeping its mask mandate in place. County health officials plan to use their own metrics — based on vaccination rates, COVID hospitalization and cases — to decide when to lift the local mandate, which could be “in a matter of weeks, as case rates continue to decline,” said Dr. Sara Cody, the county health officer... Yeah Matt, our resident expert, Dr Sara Cody is very conservative. She has received a few death threats already. If i were her, with all the idiots here in Calif, I would get the hell out of here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Yessongs said: Yeah Matt, our resident expert, Dr Sara Cody is very conservative. She has received a few death threats already. If i were her, with all the idiots here in Calif, I would get the hell out of here. Probably can get a good deal on a villa in Phuket right about now! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, tko said: The vaccines don't stop people from getting or spreading the contagion. They can only protect the vaccinated from more severe cases. I and all of my family that are eligible are vaccinated, to protect ourselves, but that doesn't affect the spread of covid. The tenacity of the virus does. Yes and no. The chance of contracting the disease goes down considerably with vaccination, especially with adding a booster shot. Unfortunately the Omicron variant has seen more breakthrough infections, though. Fewer (vaccinated) people contracting Covid does lessen the spread, as well as the potential for new variants. . . . CDC COVID-19 Study Shows mRNA Vaccines Reduce Risk of Infection by 91 Percent for Fully Vaccinated People Vaccination Makes Illness Milder, Shorter for the Few Vaccinated People Who Do Get COVID-19 https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html ... “COVID-19 vaccines are a critical tool in overcoming this pandemic,” said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH. “Findings from the extended timeframe of this study add to accumulating evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are effective and should prevent most infections — but that fully vaccinated people who still get COVID-19 are likely to have milder, shorter illness and appear to be less likely to spread the virus to others. These benefits are another important reason to get vaccinated.” ... . . . Breakthrough Infections: Coronavirus After Vaccination https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/breakthrough-infections-coronavirus-after-vaccination How common are breakthrough cases of COVID? A study in Washington state gathered data from over 4 million fully vaccinated people. The data showed a rate of about 1 in 5,000 experienced a breakthrough infection between January 17 and August 21, 2021. More recently, some populations have shown breakthrough infection rates of approximately 1 in 100 fully vaccinated people. . . . What doctors wish patients knew about breakthrough COVID infections https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-breakthrough-covid-infections ... Most breakthrough infections are mild “Because people who are vaccinated have had some immunity, some antibodies, a majority of these breakthrough cases are going to be asymptomatic or mild,” said Dr. Sanghavi. “According to the data, reported by CDC and other publications, it seems like around 25% to 30% of the patients who have had breakthrough infections are completely asymptomatic. “There are about 50% to 60% of the patients who would have some symptoms, but are mild and still may not need hospitalization,” he added. “The severity of the symptoms of these COVID breakthrough infection cases would be milder, but in certain patients you may still need all the aggressive care that we provide to a person who is unimmunized who gets a COVID infection.” “For 90% of the patients, the breakthrough infection would be mild, but for 10% of the patients, they would still require hospitalization,” said Dr. Sanghavi. But then “1% to 2% of those hospitalized from breakthrough infections may still die, unfortunately. So, it’s still a concern.” Additionally, “what you’re seeing predominantly is 80% of the patients who have the Omicron variant are unvaccinated and are needing hospitalization,” he said. “That is the reason why everybody should get vaccinated—because even if you are immunosuppressed and get a breakthrough infection, that infection would be mild as compared to a regular infection.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tko Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, lazarus said: Yes and no. The chance of contracting the disease goes down considerably with vaccination, especially with adding a booster shot. Unfortunately the Omicron variant has seen more breakthrough infections, though. Fewer (vaccinated) people contracting Covid does lessen the spread, as well as the potential for new variants. . . . CDC COVID-19 Study Shows mRNA Vaccines Reduce Risk of Infection by 91 Percent for Fully Vaccinated People Vaccination Makes Illness Milder, Shorter for the Few Vaccinated People Who Do Get COVID-19 https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html ... “COVID-19 vaccines are a critical tool in overcoming this pandemic,” said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH. “Findings from the extended timeframe of this study add to accumulating evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are effective and should prevent most infections — but that fully vaccinated people who still get COVID-19 are likely to have milder, shorter illness and appear to be less likely to spread the virus to others. These benefits are another important reason to get vaccinated.” ... . . . Breakthrough Infections: Coronavirus After Vaccination https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/breakthrough-infections-coronavirus-after-vaccination How common are breakthrough cases of COVID? A study in Washington state gathered data from over 4 million fully vaccinated people. The data showed a rate of about 1 in 5,000 experienced a breakthrough infection between January 17 and August 21, 2021. More recently, some populations have shown breakthrough infection rates of approximately 1 in 100 fully vaccinated people. . . . What doctors wish patients knew about breakthrough COVID infections https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-breakthrough-covid-infections ... Most breakthrough infections are mild “Because people who are vaccinated have had some immunity, some antibodies, a majority of these breakthrough cases are going to be asymptomatic or mild,” said Dr. Sanghavi. “According to the data, reported by CDC and other publications, it seems like around 25% to 30% of the patients who have had breakthrough infections are completely asymptomatic. “There are about 50% to 60% of the patients who would have some symptoms, but are mild and still may not need hospitalization,” he added. “The severity of the symptoms of these COVID breakthrough infection cases would be milder, but in certain patients you may still need all the aggressive care that we provide to a person who is unimmunized who gets a COVID infection.” “For 90% of the patients, the breakthrough infection would be mild, but for 10% of the patients, they would still require hospitalization,” said Dr. Sanghavi. But then “1% to 2% of those hospitalized from breakthrough infections may still die, unfortunately. So, it’s still a concern.” Additionally, “what you’re seeing predominantly is 80% of the patients who have the Omicron variant are unvaccinated and are needing hospitalization,” he said. “That is the reason why everybody should get vaccinated—because even if you are immunosuppressed and get a breakthrough infection, that infection would be mild as compared to a regular infection.” Nice data dump. Do the vaccines stop covid from spreading? Or just protect the vaccinated. Remember when vaccines - Polio, measles, chicken pox, actually provided immunity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, tko said: Nice data dump. Do the vaccines stop covid from spreading? Or just protect the vaccinated. Remember when vaccines - Polio, measles, chicken pox, actually provided immunity? Yes...but not 100%. And people in the know...know that. From Day #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, tko said: .Remember when vaccines - Polio, measles, chicken pox, actually provided immunity? I don't. Probably because it never happened, with the exception being Polio. The rest give roughly the same protection as Covid vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 9 hours ago, lazarus said: Not soon enough as there are potential contagion spreaders roaming far and wide flouting regulations through their pig-headed selfishness. 🐷 🦘 What regulations are they flouting??? Please enlighten us from afar for the ones who are actually on the ground. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, roobob said: What regulations are they flouting??? Please enlighten us from afar for the ones who are actually on the ground. cheers This is the COVID 19 GLOBAL (non Thailand) thread ... We're all "on the ground," although it is evident that some of us are a lot more grounded than others. Take a chill pill and wear your mask roob. Better yet...get vaccinated. It doesn't hurt a bit and your chances of staying healthy increase exponentially. Covid infections are going up in Thailand...your very small corner of the global health picture. Edited February 11, 2022 by lazarus lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, lazarus said: This is the COVID 19 GLOBAL (non Thailand) thread ... We're all "on the ground," although it is evident that some of us are a lot more grounded than others. Take a chill pill and wear your mask roob. Better yet...get vaccinated. It doesn't hurt a bit and your chances of staying healthy increase exponentially. Covid infections are going up in Thailand...your very small corner of the global health picture. You answered a post by another person that brought up Thailand going on about restrictions here so you were one of two who brought Thailand into the equation....so again.....please enlighten us from afar for the ones who are actually on the ground here what regulations they are flouting?? Why should I get vaccinated at this present time just because you or anyone else demands it.??? Where did I say that I do not wear a mask when out and about?? Stop with the doom and gloom mate.....it cannot be good for your mental health. Get off the keyboard and get out and about in the sunshine...go and smell the roses.....get back to living life. cheers Edited February 11, 2022 by roobob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 ^ Drama queen...roob. Same old tired schtick repeated over & over & over. Bla, bla, bla. As with most challenging aspects of life: one is either part of the problem or part of the solution. . . . Why get vaccinated? https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/why-get-vaccinated A COVID-19 vaccine might: Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying of COVID-19 Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Smooth Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, roobob said: You answered a post by another person that brought up Thailand going on about restrictions here so you were one of two who brought Thailand into the equation....so again.....please enlighten us from afar for the ones who are actually on the ground here what regulations they are flouting?? Why should I get vaccinated at this present time just because your or anyone else demands it.??? Where did I say that I do not wear a mask when out and about?? Stop with the doom and gloom mate.....it cannot be good for your mental health. Get off the keyboard and get out and about in the sunshine...go and smell the roses.....get back to living life. cheers Unfortunately, in San Francisco where Spaz lives, if he goes outside, it won't be roses he's smelling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) ^ that's not San Francisco... Of course, not surprising coming from you slinky. I bet you saw that on Fox News? Here's Santa Clara Ave. in SF...notice the style of the street sign. . . . BTW...we've turned a corner here in SF...no more mask mandate most places starting next week. From the mayor: Edited February 11, 2022 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Omicron results in a 100% increase in the death rate from community acquired Covid-19 in Western Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, lazarus said: ^ Drama queen...roob. Same old tired schtick repeated over & over & over. Bla, bla, bla. As with most challenging aspects of life: one is either part of the problem or part of the solution. . . . Why get vaccinated? https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/why-get-vaccinated A COVID-19 vaccine might: Prevent you from getting COVID-19 or from becoming seriously ill or dying of COVID-19 Prevent you from spreading the COVID-19 virus to others Add to the number of people in the community who are protected from getting COVID-19 Prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading and replicating, which allows it to mutate and possibly become more resistant to vaccines Ahh...you are back to the...might...this time with your constant barrage of trivial and at times incorrect information...555 Lets see..... now this is fact...not might.... fact.... 1. Covid vaccines will not stop you getting the virus and if vaccinated you can become serious ill or die from it. 2. Being vaccinated will not prevent you from spreading the virus to others. 3. You are not protected from the virus if vaccinated...you can still get it. 4. Being vaccinated will not stop the person from spreading the virus at all. Now please....... will you stop being the drama queen doom and gloom merchant you are and desist in spreading false information. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Moving on from our resident ^ redundant hissy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 22 hours ago, lazarus said: Probably can get a good deal on a villa in Phuket right about now! 😁 Are blood stains and shell casings included ? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, lazarus said: Moving on from our resident ^ redundant hissy... lol....back to the deflection mode after again been proven wrong...lol It is now 2022....so how did they go rolling out those 1.3 billion additional vaccine doses by the end of 2021........ or can we file your post once again under...false news....555 cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, roobob said: lol....back to the deflection mode after again been proven wrong...lol It is now 2022....so how did they go rolling out those 1.3 billion additional vaccine doses by the end of 2021........ or can we file your post once again under...false news....555 cheers The gist of that meme is global gov'mints have not done very well addressing global pandemic eradication. 900,000+ of my countrymen have died from Covid in less than two years. Sorry it went over your head. I read this morning in the Post that Covid infections are rising quickly in Thailand. Must be due to un-vaxx'ed people traveling around, circulating the disease and flouting emergency health decrees. That's how disease spread, right? I know...you're just living your life. Good luck. 👍 . . . 15,242 new Covid cases, 23 more deaths https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2262683/15-242-new-covid-cases-23-more-deaths "... Taweesilp Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said in the afternoon briefing that the 23 latest fatalities were between the ages of eight months and 89 years..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Looks like the dog and pony show is in town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Glasseye said: Are blood stains and shell casings included ? lol I was thinking more that there is a dearth of tourists in Phuket hence many vacancies due to Covid travel requirements and rising Covid rates in Thailand. That gangland shooting was in a parking lot...only a few dozen 9mm holes in the pavement. Probably already filled in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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