COVID 19 GLOBAL

[lazarus]

1 hour ago, roobob said:

...If you you cannot see some of the basic rights that have been taken away from you over the course of this pandemic then you are indeed living in the bubble that the politicians, bureaucrats and govts have made for you....

Sounds like we have a textbook case in our midst... ^

... "Psychologists state that those whose personalities tend to be authoritarian are more likely to believe in conspiracies. In need of a sense of control over events, conspiracies provide them with an explanation for those events over which they cannot exert control." ...

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Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/paranoia-and-conspiracy-theories/

[Starshine]

3 hours ago, roobob said:

Wrong again.....I and others have got an idea about you as you have been posting about it on here and also comparing your life to others you disagree while berating them for thinking and doing what they do..

Of course you do not have a problem of conforming to the current situation .... because you are living a life of..yes sir with the fear factor.

If you you cannot see some of the basic rights that have been taken away from you over the course of this pandemic then you are indeed living in the bubble that the politicians, bureaucrats and govts have made for you.

cheers 

 

What about the "basic rights" of the people that the antivax brain donors society are killing?

Stop talking out of your arse!

[roomark]

Boring as f**k all this tooing and frowing on both sides and really shows how f***d we have become as a society ..

I'm vaxxed 3 x , but am really not into half the crazy shit that's going on lately especially with these bent pricks in power...

 

[john luke]

14 minutes ago, roomark said:

Boring as f**k all this tooing and frowing on both sides and really shows how f***d we have become as a society ..

I'm vaxxed 3 x , but am really not into half the crazy shit that's going on lately especially with these bent pricks in power...

 

It is not dissimilar to BREXIT; two diametrically opposed  opinions.

[fygjam]

7 hours ago, roobob said:

I suppose that the following people who dared to challenge the need for mandated vaccines are nothing more than anarchists in your eyes. How dare these people do not just sit back and take the daily shafting like you as you continually live your life in the ..yes sir...no sir mode.

BHP's vaccine mandate unlawful, Fair Work Commission finds (msn.com)

 

Pity the roob.. didn't wait for "the more to come".

The Fair Work Commission has ruled that a decision by BHP to make COVID-19 vaccinations mandatory at its Mt
Arthur coal mine in the New South Wales Hunter Valley was not "lawful and reasonable".

However, the FWC's ruling does not mean vaccine mandates will now be illegal at other workplaces in Australia.

Far from it.

The FWC's ruling was based on a very specific point.

It said BHP's decision to enforce the vaccination requirement at the Mt Arthur mine was not reasonable because it
didn't consult its workers properly before it introduced the mandate.

It suggested if BHP followed a proper consultation process, the mandate may have been allowed.

It said Mt Arthur's owners could even be in a position to impose a vaccine mandate later this month if it
consulted its employees properly ahead of time.

 

[Nightcrawler]

7 hours ago, roobob said:

Wrong again.....I and others have got an idea about you as you have been posting about it on here and also comparing your life to others you disagree while berating them for thinking and doing what they do..

Of course you do not have a problem of conforming to the current situation .... because you are living a life of..yes sir with the fear factor.

If you you cannot see some of the basic rights that have been taken away from you over the course of this pandemic then you are indeed living in the bubble that the politicians, bureaucrats and govts have made for you.

cheers 

 

Politicians and Govt worldwide, apart from 3 in Central America, have largely reacted in similar ways to the Covid pandemic, albeit at different times and according to the number of Covid cases. I guess you believe they are all wrong and corrupt. Maybe they are all in it together, to create this New World Order, that conspiracy theorists are fond of touting. 

I am glad that you have escaped the "bubble". Well done you  How have you gone  about it. considering that you reside in Country where you have no National status and very few rights as a non Thai citizen. I don't believe that you have been forced to have the Covid vaccine and are  required to carry a Covid pass to gain access to venues and restaurants. You are required to wear a mask in certain places for a short time. Pretty much the same as UK. 

I think you are in the same bubble as everyone else 😁 it's the Covid bubble, we are all learning to live with it. 

Even for you rebels without a cause. 

I trust in the science behind addressing  the Pandemic. . Governments come and go as always. A very large proportion of the world's population have been vaccinated against Covid, only disproportionate in countries that do not have an adequate supply of vaccines. Millions more will receive vaccinations/boosters over the coming months. 

In the main, people still have the RIGHT to chose whether they wish to he vaccinated, and clearly, a small percentage of those populations remain unvaccinated. 

In some countries, a Covid Pass has been introduced, in order enter certain places, such as cafes and restaurants etc (not in my country I might add and no requirement to Conform to the will of our evil masters😁). Tough measures, sure, for some, but that is equally of their own making. 

To make vaccinations effective on a population, they need to be in high number. Its getting that way in many countries, , but there maybe other unknowns with variants popping up from time to time. That's a future that none of know yet nor can accurately predict. 

I always think, that with Freedom, comes Responsibly but unfortunately there are those  always just wanting the freedom as their God given right without excercising basic responsibility. 

I think we should all fear the Covid virus to an extent. It's a natural reaction to anything which is a threat to us.  But for those who fear it most, would never leave their home,  let alone being told not to.  I have seen first hand what the Virus can do to a person, and it is many times worse than Flu. My daughter fears for me getting infected rather than herself, having had it already. 

I do fear for others too. I fear for my best mate who has just finished Chemotherapy that has wiped out a large part of his immune system. I fear that if he were to be infected by Covid that he could die as a result or become hospitalised. 

He will jump at the chance of being vaccinated when the time is right. 

Fear is a human instinct in sensing danger as it is in the animal kingdom.  Only if we become consumed with fear, then it become paranoia. 

Fear of Covid, the  fear of the vaccine. What's the difference? 🙁 If antivaxers fear the Covid Vaccines. Many of their arguments are based on those fears. It may do them harm in future, or harm to their children, it's not been tested enough so it could be dangerous. All based upon fear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[roobob]

1 minute ago, fygjam said:

Pity the roob.. didn't wait for "the more to come".

The Fair Work Commission has ruled that a decision by BHP to make COVID-19 vaccinations mandatory at its Mt
Arthur coal mine in the New South Wales Hunter Valley was not "lawful and reasonable".

However, the FWC's ruling does not mean vaccine mandates will now be illegal at other workplaces in Australia.

Far from it.

The FWC's ruling was based on a very specific point.

It said BHP's decision to enforce the vaccination requirement at the Mt Arthur mine was not reasonable because it
didn't consult its workers properly before it introduced the mandate.

It suggested if BHP followed a proper consultation process, the mandate may have been allowed.

It said Mt Arthur's owners could even be in a position to impose a vaccine mandate later this month if it
consulted its employees properly ahead of time.

 

It seems the google king is also into....if...mays... lol

Look at the first paragraph again.... at the present time it has found that BHP mandated vaccinations was not lawful and reasonable. Now that may not fit your criteria on things...but I will let you get back to google to search again....heavens forbid if you actually have an idea/opinion of your own. 

I look forward to see the next post about how these workers are nothing but anarchist..... 555

cheers 

[Nightcrawler]

5 minutes ago, roobob said:

It seems the google king is also into....if...mays... lol

Look at the first paragraph again.... at the present time it has found that BHP mandated vaccinations was not lawful and reasonable. Now that may not fit your criteria on things...but I will let you get back to google to search again....heavens forbid if you actually have an idea/opinion of your own. 

I look forward to see the next post about how these workers are nothing but anarchist..... 555

cheers 

Which Search Engine do you use for your information? It would be good to share, I would certainly be interested in taking a look. 

[fygjam]

9 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

Which Search Engine do you use for your information? It would be good to share, I would certainly be interested in taking a look. 

Apparently the roob.. is the only one allowed to post stuff from the internet.

 

 

[roobob]

27 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

Which Search Engine do you use for your information? It would be good to share, I would certainly be interested in taking a look. 

I mainly form my own opinions and post those....unlike a few on here.

That is one thing that cannot be taken away from us..but again...looking at some posts on here I would say that some have lost that concept as I don't think some have had and expressed their own opinions/ideas in years.

cheers

[fforest]

3 hours ago, roomark said:

Boring as f**k all this tooing and frowing on both sides and really shows how f***d we have become as a society ..

I'm vaxxed 3 x , but am really not into half the crazy shit that's going on lately especially with these bent pricks in power...

 

You know is getting bad when certain posters here are agreeing something might very well be rotten with all of this.... 

Edited December 4, 2021 by fforest

[Nightcrawler]

18 minutes ago, roobob said:

I mainly form my own opinions and post those....unlike a few on here.

 

Based on what? To form an opinion it's usually best to seek relevant  information first. After all, you must be using the Internet, to know what is happening in the world regarding these breaches of basic rights that you mention. We all post our own opinions which are based both on both our own experiences and the Media, local news sites, Covid travel updates, Covid Stats etc. 

Unless you are one who simply copies other people's posts from Twitter and reposts them here. 🤔

[Starshine]

1 hour ago, fforest said:

You know is getting bad when certain posters here are agreeing something might very well be rotten with all of this.... 

Yep, the antivaxers....rotten to the core.

[Butch]

10 hours ago, roobob said:

Another worry wart who continually sits there and lets life pass them by while going on with the old lines of..... if ...may...hypothetically...etc......for goodness sakes man...wake up and smell the roses instead of the weed killer.

So when going for an innocent walk in the park was restricted...the ones who did so are now anarchists?

People who kept trying to return to their own country after being refused to do so are anarchists for doing so??

So small business owners who fought to keep their business open when they were forced to close them by Govts are anarchist? 

The only stupid thing being said here is where you are trying to put a spin on things and label the population if they dare to question their elective Govt in how they are handling things as anarchists.

I would not be surprised if you come out with a statement saying that Democracy is just another word for anarchy.

I suppose that the following people who dared to challenge the need for mandated vaccines are nothing more than anarchists in your eyes. How dare these people do not just sit back and take the daily shafting like you as you continually live your life in the ..yes sir...no sir mode.

cheers

BHP's vaccine mandate unlawful, Fair Work Commission finds (msn.com)

 

It appears my post has gone right over your head, no surprise there.

Walking in parks has never been restricted in the UK, people were allowed to exercise, and you are referring to when the law was arguably misinterpreted and 2 ladies were fined for breaching the law which was about socialisation, a fine which was later overturned and no further action.

It was you who said, and I quote again: "We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us."

I then illustrated to you that "living our lives how we want" would be anarchy, because following laws are part of living in a society.

People who kept trying to return to their own country after being refused to do so are anarchists for doing so??

Secondly, no UK citizen has been refused entry to the UK at any time during the pandemic. Same I understand applies to Australia. If, however, your home is in the UK and you're not a citizen, then by definition it's not your home country.

Also, kindly point out the connection between a person travelling and being an anarchist. I said no such thing, and clarified this in my first point.

I would not be surprised if you come out with a statement saying that Democracy is just another word for anarchy.

The above statement very clearly illustrates how obsessed you have become over this. It's a pathetic and daft thing to say and shows the level you are operating at.

I suppose that the following people who dared to challenge the need for mandated vaccines are nothing more than anarchists in your eyes. How dare these people do not just sit back and take the daily shafting like you as you continually live your life in the ..yes sir...no sir mode.

Again, feel free to point out where I said people refusing the vaccine are anarchists. I stated that if people lived their lives as they wanted to (which you said)  in many cases would be in a society without laws, the burden of taxes etc, it would be anarchy.  Given that generalising everyone refusing the vaccine as anarchists such a way is stupid and wrong, something that you are so very keen and eager to accuse me of, which says an awful lot about you.

I'm being shafted? so by being able to go to the pub, go to work, have a holiday and enjoy the freedoms of my society is being "shafted" is it?. The "yes sir no sir" mode is called following the laws of the Country in which I choose to live and work in.

Do you not do the same in Thailand, or do you just do what you want all the time and ignore the laws of the land? - if you do abide by the law, then stop being a hypocrite.

 

[fforest]

39 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Yep, the antivaxers....rotten to the core.

Ok since when were forcebwithu Lazarus and galenkia  anti-vaxers?

[galenkia]

13 minutes ago, fforest said:

Ok since when were forcebwithu Lazarus and galenkia  anti-vaxers?

Yeah, I'm pro vaccine but think there's a bit more than we know going on in the background. Certain authorities and people are quite happy to keep restrictions going permanently. 

Seems there is always personal agendas getting put ahead of the consideration of the general population. Certain people have had a taste of power and are not too keen on relinquishing it. 

Chris Whitty, Prof Van Dam what's his face and SAGE for example. 

[Starshine]

29 minutes ago, galenkia said:

Yeah, I'm pro vaccine but think there's a bit more than we know going on in the background. Certain authorities and people are quite happy to keep restrictions going permanently. 

Seems there is always personal agendas getting put ahead of the consideration of the general population. Certain people have had a taste of power and are not too keen on relinquishing it. 

Chris Whitty, Prof Van Dam what's his face and SAGE for example. 

Yep, in some areas it's turning  in to a covid industry with lots of vested interests...like Boris's mates.

[Stillearly]

34 minutes ago, galenkia said:

 

Chris Whitty, Prof Van Dam what's his face and SAGE for example. 

Personally I think the scientists would like to get back to obscurity asap , away from the media and the nutters sending death threats 

[galenkia]

6 minutes ago, Stillearly said:

Personally I think the scientists would like to get back to obscurity asap , away from the media and the nutters sending death threats 

I'm not so sure, Whitty loves a worst case scenario. According to him we should be dying by the thousands every week. 

[galenkia]

13 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Yep, in some areas it's turning  in to a covid industry with lots of vested interests...like Boris's mates.

Only yesterday I was reading about Matt Hancocks next door neighbour, a pub landlord, suddenly became overnight a PPE supplier with a contract worth ten's of millions. 

[Starshine]

Just now, galenkia said:

Only yesterday I was reading about Matt Hancocks next door neighbour, a pub landlord, suddenly became overnight a PPE supplier with a contract worth ten's of millions. 

I'm glad that slimeball has gone...f*****g hypocrite 

[Stillearly]

2 minutes ago, galenkia said:

Only yesterday I was reading about Matt Hancocks next door neighbour, a pub landlord, suddenly became overnight a PPE supplier with a contract worth ten's of millions. 

Not directly though , they layered it through another company, so it wouldn't be obvious... same thing that money launders do to hide the cash trail ... 

[Glasseye]

[lazarus]

6 hours ago, fforest said:

Ok since when were forcebwithu Lazarus and galenkia  anti-vaxers?

Never.

Received my booster last week. My 9yo daughter got her 1st shot the previous day.

I fully believe and understand that vaccines are the way out of this global pandemic.

I think there are no legitimate excuses for not getting the vaccine except for a serious conflicting health condition.

Sure most governments have been ham-handed at best fighting Covid. However, I applaud my local government as Covid has not taken hold here.

People who spew anti-vaxx rhetoric & conspiracy theories are 💩  heads.

Period.

 

[fforest]

5 hours ago, lazarus said:

Never.

Received my booster last week. My 9yo daughter got her 1st shot the previous day.

I fully believe and understand that vaccines are the way out of this global pandemic.

I think there are no legitimate excuses for not getting the vaccine except for a serious conflicting health condition.

Sure most governments have been ham-handed at best fighting Covid. However, I applaud my local government as Covid has not taken hold here.

People who spew anti-vaxx rhetoric & conspiracy theories are 💩  heads.

Period.

 

Not good enough.....

You will have to take it up with Starshine if your a anti-vaxer or not...

 

I say....You know is getting bad when certain posters here are agreeing something might very well be rotten with all of this....

 

Starshine says ,,,,Yep, the antivaxers....rotten to the core.