COVID 19 GLOBAL

[Nightcrawler]

8 minutes ago, CampariO said:

 

Marcus Lamb, head of televangelist network that spreads COVID misinformation, dies of COVID-19

I wonder how many others have died through taking his advice and guidance? 

Oh well, it was God's Will and he will be in Heaven by now 😊 and his millions will be shared by the family

 

[Mr. Smooth]

24 minutes ago, Nightcrawler said:

I read the article in full and it clearly states that they are still in favour of mask protection. Sorry if you don't like my replies, but that is the nature of discussion and debate. 

I take issue with any statement which suggests that masks are useless or that try to encourage people not to use them. It's quite simple. I see no point in arguing for the sake of argument. That gives me no pleasure

For those who do not believe that the masks they have are effective, then do a simple bit of research into different types of mask and go out and buy some or order online, better still and stop looking for excuses. It's common sense. 

I would not buy an umbrella if it had holes in it 🙄

 

You really must be in serious need of a remedial reading course, as the article most certainly did not say that! What they said was wearing a mask is better than nothing but it has nowhere near the protection that social distancing measures have, and by limiting your time in crowded areas. The article did say that masking offers just "limited" protection at best, as these masks that are the most used, like in my photo earlier, do not protect against the tiniest of bacteria that is believed to be the cause of Covid, as the openings in these masks are too large to stop them from penetrating.

This thing is never going to end. It is with us for the rest of all our lives. I have stopped holding out hope for a Thailand reopening that includes the full on nightlife that it once had. In a country where the loss of face is so prized in the culture, do you really think that the government will do anything that will leave the impression that it loses face to the people? Christ Almighty, they couldn't even rescue a bunch of kids from drowning in a flooded cave without help from farangs outside their country.

Face it Crawler, you very well may have seen the last of Thailand, or Pattaya, for the rest of your life. All these boogieman scenarios you have to include in any pathway forward is simply folly to take seriously. You brought up WWII as an analogy in fighting Covid. A ludicrous one if I ever heard. Had you the political leaders back then that the EU and  UK have today, instead of Sir Winston calling the shots and displaying leadership to a people who were willing to truly sacrifice all they had to defeat Nazi tyranny, then Adolph would have sailed right up the Thames and made himself comfy in Buckingham Palace.

And I'll throw in my guy on this side of the pond as well. 

Your country suffered greatly then but I think considering how many thousands died in WWII defending England, those living then would have happily taken the surviving rate of Covid to that from the suffering and overwhelming death they went through fighting the Nazis. As I said, an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

Quit cowering in the shadows, scared to emerge out in the sunshine and live your life to it's fullest. There is going to be new variants EVERY year, if not every 6 months. I predict yet another variant by April or May. And then, it will be more of the same. More media hysteria, more panic, more government restrictions, more rules on freedom of movement.

If you want to be ruled by fear, then it's not the virus you need to be scared of. It's the government. Never before in either or our lifetimes has our respective governments held more sway over their people than right now.

If you want to sound the alarm on anything, then sound off on that! 

[bob lt]

Face coverings become mandatory again on public transport from Tuesday amid rising concerns about the Omicron variant of Covid-19.

Some 152 people in London were ordered to pay a £200 fine on Tuesday, according to Transport for London (TfL).

Another 125 were asked to leave TfL services, and 127 were prevented from boarding a service or entering a TfL station.

Meanwhile TfL said its staff reminded more than 5,100 people to cover their faces on its bus, Tube and rail network.

 

 

[Nightcrawler]

1 hour ago, Mr. Smooth said:

You really must be in serious need of a remedial reading course, as the article most certainly did not say that! What they said was wearing a mask is better than nothing but it has nowhere near the protection that social distancing measures have, and by limiting your time in crowded areas. The article did say that masking offers just "limited" protection at best, as these masks that are the most used, like in my photo earlier, do not protect against the tiniest of bacteria that is believed to be the cause of Covid, as the openings in these masks are too large to stop them from penetrating.

This thing is never going to end. It is with us for the rest of all our lives. I have stopped holding out hope for a Thailand reopening that includes the full on nightlife that it once had. In a country where the loss of face is so prized in the culture, do you really think that the government will do anything that will leave the impression that it loses face to the people? Christ Almighty, they couldn't even rescue a bunch of kids from drowning in a flooded cave without help from farangs outside their country.

Face it Crawler, you very well may have seen the last of Thailand, or Pattaya, for the rest of your life. All these boogieman scenarios you have to include in any pathway forward is simply folly to take seriously. You brought up WWII as an analogy in fighting Covid. A ludicrous one if I ever heard. Had you the political leaders back then that the EU and  UK have today, instead of Sir Winston calling the shots and displaying leadership to a people who were willing to truly sacrifice all they had to defeat Nazi tyranny, then Adolph would have sailed right up the Thames and made himself comfy in Buckingham Palace.

And I'll throw in my guy on this side of the pond as well. 

Your country suffered greatly then but I think considering how many thousands died in WWII defending England, those living then would have happily taken the surviving rate of Covid to that from the suffering and overwhelming death they went through fighting the Nazis. As I said, an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

Quit cowering in the shadows, scared to emerge out in the sunshine and live your life to it's fullest. There is going to be new variants EVERY year, if not every 6 months. I predict yet another variant by April or May. And then, it will be more of the same. More media hysteria, more panic, more government restrictions, more rules on freedom of movement.

If you want to be ruled by fear, then it's not the virus you need to be scared of. It's the government. Never before in either or our lifetimes has our respective governments held more sway over their people than right now.

If you want to sound the alarm on anything, then sound off on that! 

I am not cowering in any shadows, far from it. I lead an active life and I don't just think of going back to Thailand as my one and only objective in life. However, this not really about me personally or you for that matter. I wouldn't dream of either telling you how to run your life, or how you feel, or what you should think or do. In the grand scheme of things, neither you or I are that important. My views are not put forward on an emotional basis. 

I don't feel ruled by fear, and I am very optimistic about the future, and not that we are all doomed for eternity. 

Pandemic have come  and gone throughout history. 

For me, its purely about damage limitation during those times. There are many diseases that are now extinct or less evasive, thanks to modern science. 

I don't feel controlled by fear. I have a fear of heights(which is not totally irrational) and get vertigo, but I find by simply avoiding high buildings where possible, that it's not a life changer. 

I have lived with and beaten Cancer, so I am f+cked if I am going to let Covid do ish me off 😊

I live with caution, not fear

If I want to go shopping today or take public transport, or most other things I may want to do, I am free to do so. If I want to travel abroad, I can still do so, in countries that will allow travellers from UK. So what, I have to wear a mask in shops or on public transport. No big deal as I don't plan on socialising during those activities. 

As long as I am polite and respectful of others, then no problem for me. No more inconvenient than being strapped in my car by a seat belt. Those bloody politicians again  telling us what to do 😁😁😁

People swallow antibiotics these days like they are going out fashion, but they have saved millions of lives and continue to do so and all down to scientific research and discovery. 

I believe that as well as offering some protection to others, masks also act as a social statement to show respect for others, in times of such distrust

Doing nothing, leaves Covid totally in the driving seat. 

 

 

 

[fygjam]

29 minutes ago, Mr. Smooth said:

do not protect against the tiniest of bacteria that is believed to be the cause of Covid

Oops.   5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 

 

[Butch]

1 hour ago, Mr. Smooth said:

There is going to be new variants EVERY year, if not every 6 months. I predict yet another variant by April or May. And then, it will be more of the same. More media hysteria, more panic, more government restrictions, more rules on freedom of movement.

If you want to be ruled by fear, then it's not the virus you need to be scared of. It's the government. Never before in either or our lifetimes has our respective governments held more sway over their people than right now.

If you want to sound the alarm on anything, then sound off on that! 

Those are very good points indeed, I am pro vax and pro masks etc, but there is simply no argument to be had against what you are saying there (apologies for editing your post, I wanted to keep it contextually correct).

We will see more variants, we will see more media hype and we will probably see more restrictions. The current UK Covid measures are ratified in law until March 24th (I think - might be wrong). My concern is that once a govt has managed to obtain a level of power and control, they will be very reluctant to give it up. more so if under the guise of "protecting the public".

We only have to look at section 43 of the Terrorism act in the UK and how that has been abused by everyone from the Police and the regulation of investigatory powers act to local Councils using it as enforcement :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082225/March-dustbin-Stasi-Half-councils-use-anti-terror-laws-watch-people-putting-rubbish-wrong-day.html

Slightly off topic, but does that not illustrate the abuse which these laws can be subject to such as the madness we saw back in 2020 of people being fined for drinking a coffee in public while walking?.

It appears that the hard left wing are pushing using covid and restrictions to push a utopian agenda whereby the state pays for us all on furlough, whereas the rest of us just want to get on with our lives. The knee jerk reaction of the restrictions to stop the NHS being overwhelmed has not been that effective. We have seen empty Nightingale hospitals, wards emptied for Covid and no patients and other measures which involve compromising the quality of life for people in care homes and their families all under the guise of "protecting the public".

Measures WERE necessary in 2020 when Italy was getting the arse kicked out of it, and India leaving people dead in the streets and deaths were getting worryingly high, but they are not needed now. Most of us are vaxxed, most of us are sensible and "herd immunity" (don't hear that much more do we?) is fairly well established now.

There is no point for anymore restrictions. Mask wearing should be a matter of choice, hand washing is just simply good hygiene anyway.

[fforest]

1 hour ago, Mr. Smooth said:

You really must be in serious need of a remedial reading course, as the article most certainly did not say that! What they said was wearing a mask is better than nothing but it has nowhere near the protection that social distancing measures have, and by limiting your time in crowded areas. The article did say that masking offers just "limited" protection at best, as these masks that are the most used, like in my photo earlier, do not protect against the tiniest of bacteria that is believed to be the cause of Covid, as the openings in these masks are too large to stop them from penetrating.

This thing is never going to end. It is with us for the rest of all our lives. I have stopped holding out hope for a Thailand reopening that includes the full on nightlife that it once had. In a country where the loss of face is so prized in the culture, do you really think that the government will do anything that will leave the impression that it loses face to the people? Christ Almighty, they couldn't even rescue a bunch of kids from drowning in a flooded cave without help from farangs outside their country.

Face it Crawler, you very well may have seen the last of Thailand, or Pattaya, for the rest of your life. All these boogieman scenarios you have to include in any pathway forward is simply folly to take seriously. You brought up WWII as an analogy in fighting Covid. A ludicrous one if I ever heard. Had you the political leaders back then that the EU and  UK have today, instead of Sir Winston calling the shots and displaying leadership to a people who were willing to truly sacrifice all they had to defeat Nazi tyranny, then Adolph would have sailed right up the Thames and made himself comfy in Buckingham Palace.

And I'll throw in my guy on this side of the pond as well. 

Your country suffered greatly then but I think considering how many thousands died in WWII defending England, those living then would have happily taken the surviving rate of Covid to that from the suffering and overwhelming death they went through fighting the Nazis. As I said, an absolutely ludicrous comparison.

Quit cowering in the shadows, scared to emerge out in the sunshine and live your life to it's fullest. There is going to be new variants EVERY year, if not every 6 months. I predict yet another variant by April or May. And then, it will be more of the same. More media hysteria, more panic, more government restrictions, more rules on freedom of movement.

If you want to be ruled by fear, then it's not the virus you need to be scared of. It's the government. Never before in either or our lifetimes has our respective governments held more sway over their people than right now.

If you want to sound the alarm on anything, then sound off on that! 

Fantastic Post by Mr. Smooth

I hope all you guys read this one....

Mr.Smooth did not even mention Conspiacys just common sense......

The world wide destruction of nightlife has been going on for decades.....Pattaya has been glaring holdout for a very long time,but Mr Smooth is right it could very well be finished....

Edited December 3, 2021 by fforest

[fforest]

1 hour ago, Nightcrawler said:

 

Pandemic have come  and gone throughout history. 

 

 

 

Exactly....And most pandemics last about 2 years.....This one should be over......But God only knows how long this one will last as drunk on power as they are.....They being the usual suspects...

[Starshine]

2 minutes ago, fforest said:

Exactly....And most pandemics last about 2 years.....This one should be over......But God only knows how long this one will last as drunk on power as they are.....They being the usual suspects...

It would be over sooner if idiot antivaxers stopped spouting absolute shite

[roobob]

2 hours ago, Nightcrawler said:

Wrong. My only thoughts on dying are that of arrangements for when the time comes, and which comes to us all soon or later. I actually want to live as long as is physically possible unless perhaps I end up in some awful vegetive state or in permanent acute pain. But I am thinking about ways to achieve that, and thinking about the lives of others rather than just myself. 

The similarity between war and the Virus, is that we are under attack. We have a choice of either defending ourselves or lay down and surrender. 

In war time, it was the collective attitude and determination of the people and their politicians that brought people together. 

Covid effects ever single one of us in one way or another and none of it is good. But it could be a lot worse. 

We all want to travel again, we all want to go back to how it was before C19. We all want the same thing, but how we get to that point is a very different matter. 

Neither you or I have the ability to change anything. We can only do what we think is right 

But without science and technology we would still be living in the dark ages

Cheers

Not wrong at all.. you are the one talking about your death and your first paragraph confirms that.

Rubbish with your 2nd paragraph.... you even went on to make reference to Nazis in your other post.... as I said before...it is a silly comparison to compare WW2 to the virus situation we have now.

We can travel now if we want...the only ones who seem to frown on it are the ones who are living with the fear factor like yourself....  and you are mistaken again...we do have the ability to change things. We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us.

Yes science and technology has got us out of the dark ages...but as can be seen over the last few years.....politicians, bureaucrats and govts with the handling of the current situation with their current restrictions are trying to force us back into living in the dark ages and people like yourself and others are happy to let them.

cheers   

[Nightcrawler]

20 minutes ago, fforest said:

Fantastic Post by Mr. Smooth

I hope all you guys read this one....

Mr.Smooth did not even mention Conspiacys just common sense......

The world wide destruction of nightlife has been going on for decades.....Pattaya has been glaring holdout for a very long time,but Mr Smooth is right it could very well be finished....

You should rent a room together 😁😁😁

[Nightcrawler]

17 minutes ago, roobob said:

Not wrong at all.. you are the one talking about your death and your first paragraph confirms that.

Rubbish with your 2nd paragraph.... you even went on to make reference to Nazis in your other post.... as I said before...it is a silly comparison to compare WW2 to the virus situation we have now.

We can travel now if we want...the only ones who seem to frown on it are the ones who are living with the fear factor like yourself....  and you are mistaken again...we do have the ability to change things. We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us.

Yes science and technology has got us out of the dark ages...but as can be seen over the last few years.....politicians, bureaucrats and govts with the handling of the current situation with their current restrictions are trying to force us back into living in the dark ages and people like yourself and others are happy to let them.

cheers   

Who is frowning about travel? 

I am all for travel if its conducted safely. I can easily tick all the boxes to travel almost anywhere I like, apart from red countries at present. No fear involved.  As far as Thailand is concerned, I would rather wait until if and when the bars reopen, but there is nothing that I can do to have any effect on those decisions. 

You can't change things as they are, unless you decide to organise a protest rally in Bangkok. Good luck with that 😁😁

We can't always have what we want, nor should expect it as a God given right of entitlement I'm afraid, and that is just a fact of life. 

Your fear is that we may go back to the dark ages. It's still a fear. 

Reality, is that most of the worlds politicians and leaders, broadly share the current precautions against Covid. That is unlikely to change for the time being, and we will have to accept it and adapt accordingly. 

A few protest marches here and there, and social media influences, really aren't going to make any difference. 

You living your life how you want could well be at the expense of others 

 

 

[roobob]

1 minute ago, Nightcrawler said:

Who is frowning about travel? 

I am all for travel if its conducted safely. I can easily tick all the boxes to travel almost anywhere I like, apart from red countries at present. No fear involved.  As far as Thailand is concerned, I would rather wait until if and when the bars reopen, but there is nothing that I can do to have any effect on those decisions. 

You can't change things as they are, unless you decide to organise a protest rally in Bangkok. Good luck with that 😁😁

We can't always have what we want, nor should expect it as a God given right of entitlement I'm afraid, and that is just a fact of life. 

Your fear is that we may go back to the dark ages. It's still a fear. 

Reality, is that most of the worlds politicians and leaders, broadly share the current precautions against Covid. That is unlikely to change for the time being, and we will have to accept it and adapt accordingly. 

A few protest marches here and there, and social media influences, really aren't going to make any difference. 

You living your life how you want could well be at the expense of others 

 

 

Again your fear factor kicks in as again can be seen in your first paragraph. Here you go again...you say you can travel but...

But what??? You have said you have complied with all things being asked .... so why the...but?? It is easy to see...fear factor...you  are happy to be told what to do...when to do it.... and sit back and let your life pass you by all on the say of faceless people you have never met.

We are near back in the dark ages with the restrictions being put on the population for no reason at all ..... all over a virus. Going back to your comparison...WW2 never went close to sending us back to the dark ages..or other viruses but how come this one is different in that regard??

Get a grip...again what a silly statement.... how could I living my life as I want be at the expense of others. Fair dinkum mate.... sit yourself down and and have a long hard look at the situation at hand and at yourself. Your life is passing you by daily and you are letting others actually dictate to you on how you live even in the basic things in life you are entitled to.

cheers

[Starshine]

16 minutes ago, roobob said:

Again your fear factor kicks in as again can be seen in your first paragraph. Here you go again...you say you can travel but...

But what??? You have said you have complied with all things being asked .... so why the...but?? It is easy to see...fear factor...you  are happy to be told what to do...when to do it.... and sit back and let your life pass you by all on the say of faceless people you have never met.

We are near back in the dark ages with the restrictions being put on the population for no reason at all ..... all over a virus. Going back to your comparison...WW2 never went close to sending us back to the dark ages..or other viruses but how come this one is different in that regard??

Get a grip...again what a silly statement.... how could I living my life as I want be at the expense of others. Fair dinkum mate.... sit yourself down and and have a long hard look at the situation at hand and at yourself. Your life is passing you by daily and you are letting others actually dictate to you on how you live even in the basic things in life you are entitled to.

cheers

[fygjam]

43 minutes ago, roobob said:

Again your fear factor kicks in as again can be seen in your first paragraph. Here you go again...you say you can travel but...

But what??? You have said you have complied with all things being asked .... so why the...but?? It is easy to see...fear factor...you  are happy to be told what to do...when to do it.... and sit back and let your life pass you by all on the say of faceless people you have never met.

We are near back in the dark ages with the restrictions being put on the population for no reason at all ..... all over a virus. Going back to your comparison...WW2 never went close to sending us back to the dark ages..or other viruses but how come this one is different in that regard??

Get a grip...again what a silly statement.... how could I living my life as I want be at the expense of others. Fair dinkum mate.... sit yourself down and and have a long hard look at the situation at hand and at yourself. Your life is passing you by daily and you are letting others actually dictate to you on how you live even in the basic things in life you are entitled to.

cheers

On the other hand, he isn't afraid of vaccinations, unlike some.

 

[coxyhog]

From Sky News:

 

Man tried to use fake arm to avoid getting COVID jab - reports

The unidentified 50-year-old bought a silicone arm and wore it to his vaccine appointment in Bielle, northern Italy, local media has reported.

A health worker trying to administer his shot became suspicious after touching the fake arm and asked him to take off his shirt, revealing what was going on. 

Local media said the man had begged the health worker to turn a blind eye but he has now been reported to healthcare authorities and could face charges. 

The man had been trying to obtain a vaccine passport, as Italy is tightening its rules for the unvaccinated. 

Filippa Bua, the health worker involved in the incident, told La Repubblica: "I felt offended as a professional. 

"The colour of the arm made me suspicious and so I asked the man to uncover the rest of his left arm. It was well made but it wasn't the same colour [as the rest of the arm]."

The man reportedly said to her: "Would you have imagined that I'd have such a physique?" 

She also told La Stampa she could not see the man's veins: "At first I thought I made a mistake, that it was a patient with an artificial arm."

[Starshine]

58 minutes ago, coxyhog said:

From Sky News:

 

Man tried to use fake arm to avoid getting COVID jab - reports

The unidentified 50-year-old bought a silicone arm and wore it to his vaccine appointment in Bielle, northern Italy, local media has reported.

A health worker trying to administer his shot became suspicious after touching the fake arm and asked him to take off his shirt, revealing what was going on. 

Local media said the man had begged the health worker to turn a blind eye but he has now been reported to healthcare authorities and could face charges. 

The man had been trying to obtain a vaccine passport, as Italy is tightening its rules for the unvaccinated. 

Filippa Bua, the health worker involved in the incident, told La Repubblica: "I felt offended as a professional. 

"The colour of the arm made me suspicious and so I asked the man to uncover the rest of his left arm. It was well made but it wasn't the same colour [as the rest of the arm]."

The man reportedly said to her: "Would you have imagined that I'd have such a physique?" 

She also told La Stampa she could not see the man's veins: "At first I thought I made a mistake, that it was a patient with an artificial arm."

Was he a crotchedy old bugger with an Australian accent?

[Krapow]

There is always going to be variants, Covid isn't going anywhere. 

Thankfully here in England all they've done is brought back PCR for travel entry, and masks in some Indoor settings. 

We're in a whole different place in the UK than this time last year. The restrictions in Europe are to do with Delta, not this new variant, they were happening anyway whilst the UK has managed things well this year. 

We have to live with Covid, and thankfully that seems to be accepted in Westminster. 

I'm also happy to live somewhere that doesn't mandate vaccination, at least not in modern times. I don't agree with it for a few reasons, not least that it's actually counterproductive, and can fuel the conspiracy nutters as well. 

That said, IMO the UK Government like many others are using the 'new variant' to ramp up the fear a bit to get more people jabbed, or at least doing nothing to counter the fear.  I can kinda understand the reasoning, but just makes me cynical.

Anyways, apart from wearing a mask on the tube last weekend as it's law again, my life hasn't changed at all from before this latest variant debacle.  

[Butch]

8 hours ago, roobob said:

Not wrong at all.. you are the one talking about your death and your first paragraph confirms that.

Rubbish with your 2nd paragraph.... you even went on to make reference to Nazis in your other post.... as I said before...it is a silly comparison to compare WW2 to the virus situation we have now.

We can travel now if we want...the only ones who seem to frown on it are the ones who are living with the fear factor like yourself....  and you are mistaken again...we do have the ability to change things. We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us.

Yes science and technology has got us out of the dark ages...but as can be seen over the last few years.....politicians, bureaucrats and govts with the handling of the current situation with their current restrictions are trying to force us back into living in the dark ages and people like yourself and others are happy to let them.

cheers   

We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us.

No, you have to follow the law, what you propose is anarchy, living your lives "how you want". Damn those pesky politicians and laws against murdering my neighbour or stealing their cars.

WRT Nightcrawler, I think he was referring to the community spirit, but you choose to concentrate on references to the National socialists for forum points.

Ask yourself a question, who else will co ordinate the response if Covid 19 was fatal in 100% of cases, hypothetically?. The opposition?.

Luckily it is not 100% fatal, but the same people you'd look to in such a case are also responsible for co ordinating a response for the current situation, and unless you are better qualified than the experts (you're not) then stop trying to second guess them. The bottom line that the Govt are concerned about is public safety and tend to work on the bigger odds rather than the smaller ones. It's a thankless job and they're never going to be right.

Governments are elected, it serves no good purpose to upset and turn the electorate against themselves.

Don't tell me, is this another post where you refuse to accept you've said something completely stupid, like, I dunno, condoning potentially illegal activity then claiming you know nothing about it?. Anarchy, a fantastic political concept which I am sure will work. Somewhere.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Butch

[Nightcrawler]

7 hours ago, roobob said:

Again your fear factor kicks in as again can be seen in your first paragraph. Here you go again...you say you can travel but...

But what??? You have said you have complied with all things being asked .... so why the...but?? It is easy to see...fear factor...you  are happy to be told what to do...when to do it.... and sit back and let your life pass you by all on the say of faceless people you have never met.

We are near back in the dark ages with the restrictions being put on the population for no reason at all ..... all over a virus. Going back to your comparison...WW2 never went close to sending us back to the dark ages..or other viruses but how come this one is different in that regard??

Get a grip...again what a silly statement.... how could I living my life as I want be at the expense of others. Fair dinkum mate.... sit yourself down and and have a long hard look at the situation at hand and at yourself. Your life is passing you by daily and you are letting others actually dictate to you on how you live even in the basic things in life you are entitled to.

cheers

You have  NO idea about my life, you don't know me and you don't know how I spend my time. Let's make that clear from the start. 

I don't have a problem conforming to current UK Covid guidelines and even if I did, there is nothing that I could do about it that would change anything. 

I chose to be vaccinated and I chose to wear a mask in certain situations. I exercise caution when I think needs be. I have All the basic things that I NEED.  Food in my belly, a great family, a social life, friends, a roof over my HEAD, money in the bank and all the gear I need for my musical Pastime. 

I may want other things but I have all I need, just as I  had prior to the Pandemic 

I make the best of what I have, and adapt to the different  environment that we are currently experiencing, rather than moan every day that I am missing out on what  I may think I am entitled to do. 

What is it exactly that you think are your entitlements? 

And what needs are you being so deprived of. 

Moreover, what are your plans to address them. 

[Glasseye]

DOA -

 

 

 

Another one bites the dust....

 

 

[Zeb]

Mmmm........

File this with "the dog ate my homework?"

[roobob]

3 hours ago, Butch said:

We have the ability to live our lives how we want even though the politicians, bureaucrats and govts want to put restrictions on us.

No, you have to follow the law, what you propose is anarchy, living your lives "how you want". Damn those pesky politicians and laws against murdering my neighbour or stealing their cars.

WRT Nightcrawler, I think he was referring to the community spirit, but you choose to concentrate on references to the National socialists for forum points.

Ask yourself a question, who else will co ordinate the response if Covid 19 was fatal in 100% of cases, hypothetically?. The opposition?.

Luckily it is not 100% fatal, but the same people you'd look to in such a case are also responsible for co ordinating a response for the current situation, and unless you are better qualified than the experts (you're not) then stop trying to second guess them. The bottom line that the Govt are concerned about is public safety and tend to work on the bigger odds rather than the smaller ones. It's a thankless job and they're never going to be right.

Governments are elected, it serves no good purpose to upset and turn the electorate against themselves.

Don't tell me, is this another post where you refuse to accept you've said something completely stupid, like, I dunno, condoning potentially illegal activity then claiming you know nothing about it?. Anarchy, a fantastic political concept which I am sure will work. Somewhere.

Another worry wart who continually sits there and lets life pass them by while going on with the old lines of..... if ...may...hypothetically...etc......for goodness sakes man...wake up and smell the roses instead of the weed killer.

So when going for an innocent walk in the park was restricted...the ones who did so are now anarchists?

People who kept trying to return to their own country after being refused to do so are anarchists for doing so??

So small business owners who fought to keep their business open when they were forced to close them by Govts are anarchist? 

The only stupid thing being said here is where you are trying to put a spin on things and label the population if they dare to question their elective Govt in how they are handling things as anarchists.

I would not be surprised if you come out with a statement saying that Democracy is just another word for anarchy.

I suppose that the following people who dared to challenge the need for mandated vaccines are nothing more than anarchists in your eyes. How dare these people do not just sit back and take the daily shafting like you as you continually live your life in the ..yes sir...no sir mode.

cheers

BHP's vaccine mandate unlawful, Fair Work Commission finds (msn.com)

 

[roobob]

3 hours ago, Nightcrawler said:

You have  NO idea about my life, you don't know me and you don't know how I spend my time. Let's make that clear from the start. 

I don't have a problem conforming to current UK Covid guidelines and even if I did, there is nothing that I could do about it that would change anything. 

I chose to be vaccinated and I chose to wear a mask in certain situations. I exercise caution when I think needs be. I have All the basic things that I NEED.  Food in my belly, a great family, a social life, friends, a roof over my HEAD, money in the bank and all the gear I need for my musical Pastime. 

I may want other things but I have all I need, just as I  had prior to the Pandemic 

I make the best of what I have, and adapt to the different  environment that we are currently experiencing, rather than moan every day that I am missing out on what  I may think I am entitled to do. 

What is it exactly that you think are your entitlements? 

And what needs are you being so deprived of. 

Moreover, what are your plans to address them. 

Wrong again.....I and others have got an idea about you as you have been posting about it on here and also comparing your life to others you disagree while berating them for thinking and doing what they do..

Of course you do not have a problem of conforming to the current situation .... because you are living a life of..yes sir with the fear factor.

If you you cannot see some of the basic rights that have been taken away from you over the course of this pandemic then you are indeed living in the bubble that the politicians, bureaucrats and govts have made for you.

cheers 

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by roobob

[Kathmandu]

13 hours ago, fforest said:

Fantastic Post by Mr. Smooth

I hope all you guys read this one....

Mr.Smooth did not even mention Conspiacys just common sense......

The world wide destruction of nightlife has been going on for decades.....Pattaya has been glaring holdout for a very long time,but Mr Smooth is right it could very well be finished....

Yes, Mr. Bacteria is on the cutting edge of this debate as are you...hahahaha.