Lemondropkid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 hours ago, Stillearly said: Did you see the game live? There's 2 things very wrong with what happened Firstly the call on the field was no goal. So there should be clear evidence an error was made, and there wasn't. Secondly the suppression by FIFA/the offical broadcasater of pictures of the ball. Gary Neville was furious about this, and easy to understand why. Viewers were shown a single frame that I couldn't have called conclusive proof the ball was in. I've seen an image on the BBC website this morning were the ball looks clearly out. To me the used image put out was selective to support a decision that never should have been made As I said at best it smacks of incompetence, but worse the hushing up of it. In the afternoon game another appalling decision with a penalty given by VAR to Argentina. I'm dreading what's going to happen in the knockout stages 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said: I'm dreading what's going to happen in the knockout stages What's going to happen??? .... The same that has been happening all season in the PL..VAR is a good tool to help correctly officiate a game but it is misused and misjudged by incompetent officials. EDIT = Having said that, comparing the position of the ball in last night's game with just about every corner taken in the PL this season then it was still in play. Edited December 2, 2022 by Derek Dangleberries 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondropkid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Derek Dangleberries said: What's going to happen??? .... The same that has been happening all season in the PL..VAR is a good tool to help correctly officiate a game but it is misused and misjudged by incompetent officials. EDIT = Having said that, comparing the position of the ball in last night's game with just about every corner taken in the PL this season then it was still in play. The misuse of VAR in this tournament has been way, way worse than the PL for me Have you been able to watch many of the games? Kind time difference here but I've seen them all, and from the England v Iran games, there's been several shocking decisions. I'd admit to not watching as many PL games, but can't recall anything like this. Hope I'm wrong but can only see games ruined by poor decisions in the knockout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Lemondropkid said: Have you been able to watch many of the games? Kind time difference here but I've seen them all, and from the England v Iran games, there's been several shocking decisions. Hahaha! Yep I saw the rugby tackle on Maguire and the shirt pull penalty...Shocking! With the PL it is more about WHEN it is used, hence my "misuse" comment. I am damned sure that if the England players were as forceful as the Iran players against the ref then maybe it would have gone to VAR.. Which leads us on to the bigger problem of players aggressively abusing the referee.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondropkid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Derek Dangleberries said: I am damned sure that if the England players were as forceful as the Iran players against the ref then maybe it would have gone to VAR.. That I do agree with I felt England were singled out a "special case". Collina was using film of England players as part of the referee's briefing as to what to look out for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Colin Wanker posted this on Twitter with the comment 'What goes around comes around'. The main pic is from a previous WC when England were thrashed by Germany and Frank Lampard's clearly over the line goal was disallowed.The inset was from yesterday. PS Colin Wanker is an anagram of Neil Warnock.... Edited December 2, 2022 by coxyhog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coxyhog Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Lemondropkid said: I'd admit to not watching as many PL games, but can't recall anything like this. As a Watford supporter I've seen & suffered from quite a few VAR mistakes in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, coxyhog said: As a Watford supporter I've seen & suffered from quite a few VAR mistakes in the Premier League. Leeds have had a few crazy ones too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lemondropkid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, Stillearly said: I think his foot was still touching the ball a frame further on. But I maybe wrong? The worrying thing is that no pictures were made available to broadcasters. The ITV team were sat pretty damn close to it, looking down and all 4 had thought it out in real time If the host broadcaster wanted to make people feel they were covering up an a blunder, job done. Anyway Uraguary v Ghana up at 15:00, nothing bad ever happens in that game! Come on the Black Stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Dangleberries Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said: Come on the Black Stars. Shit yeh..Another country that I worked in and loved, in this case for 2 years ...... Fantastic people !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Would need to see the ball from above the line as it is the curvature of the ball which can be above the line and not necessarily touching the line to be allowed as in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 C'mon Korea !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Horizondave said: Would need to see the ball from above the line as it is the curvature of the ball which can be above the line and not necessarily touching the line to be allowed as in play. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63829718 & that is the best and fairest way to do it.If the ball had to be touching the line then the curvature of the ball would prevent the camera from seeing it. Edited December 2, 2022 by coxyhog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stillearly Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Brilliant !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Great end to Korean match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs joe Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Son Heung-min didn’t he used to play in the Wonderful 2 band Soi 13 Well done Korea Republic Edited December 2, 2022 by gs joe , 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Beautiful goal…..but just like a 15-yard unsportsmanlike in NFL…..you MUST know the rules and keep your emotions in check Edited December 2, 2022 by Golfingboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Cracking goal by Cameroon ...but how daft to take your shirt off when your already on a yellow ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He was still smiling at he walked off 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 First match I've watched all of it. Brazil looks the worst I've ever seen them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, galenkia said: First match I've watched all of it. Brazil looks the worst I've ever seen them. Especially when it took them 5 complete HALVES just to give up their first shot. That blew my mind…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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