dcfc2007 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, fygjam said: On March 26th, 2020 Twitter locked the site’s (The Federalist's) account for violating its rules against spreading misinformation about the coronavirus. Nuff said! It was as true as the time of writing as it is now. As for twitter... Don't even get me started. They banned a user for replying 'yes dude' to some tranny activist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Perhaps the goal of COVID Act Now was never to provide accurate information, but to scare citizens and government officials into to implementing rash and draconian measures. The creators even admit as much with the caveat that “this model is designed to drive fast action, not predict the future.” They generated this model under the guise of protecting communities from overrun hospitals, a trend that is not on track to happen as they predicted. Not only is the data false, and looking more incorrect with each passing day, but the website is optimized for a disinformation campaign. https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/inaccurate-virus-models-are-panicking-officials-into-ill-advised-lockdowns/ Covid models that were used to legitimise lockdowns have wildly over estimated the amount of deaths and infections. The only thing I gain from what you say is that it is obvious that not everybody agrees with each other (and I am talking about the experts) and also difficult to analyse a situation until it is over so what chance is there that everything you or I think is right or wrong. I suppose that is why we vote in politicians to make these decisions for us, we hope that they are making the best decisions for all of our interests but obviously with unknown situations some of their actions may not be the correct ones. Sweden has made a different track to most nations and everybody last week was lauding their efforts and lack of lock-down but over the last few days they are seeing increased death figures from the virus. Really everything is based on best estimate by the powers in charge, informed speculation from experts but the model is different for many. Maybe one model is the best but how will we know until it is all put to bed as best as can be. Remember Trump says he is going to make decisions based on the smartest minds in their fields advising him and yet there are many who think his stance is continuing to be incorrect, so who (excuse the pun) is right. Many will come out of this looking brighter in their judgement but many will be proven wrong but they will still no doubt be experts in their field. 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Horizondave said: The only thing I gain from what you say is that it is obvious that not everybody agrees with each other (and I am talking about the experts) and also difficult to analyse a situation until it is over so what chance is there that everything you or I think is right or wrong. I suppose that is why we vote in politicians to make these decisions for us, we hope that they are making the best decisions for all of our interests but obviously with unknown situations some of their actions may not be the correct ones. Sweden has made a different track to most nations and everybody last week was lauding their efforts and lack of lock-down but over the last few days they are seeing increased death figures from the virus. Really everything is based on best estimate by the powers in charge, informed speculation from experts but the model is different for many. Maybe one model is the best but how will we know until it is all put to bed as best as can be. Remember Trump says he is going to make decisions based on the smartest minds in their fields advising him and yet there are many who think his stance is continuing to be incorrect, so who (excuse the pun) is right. Many will come out of this looking brighter in their judgement but many will be proven wrong but they will still no doubt be experts in their field. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Horizondave said: The only thing I gain from what you say is that it is obvious that not everybody agrees with each other (and I am talking about the experts) and also difficult to analyse a situation until it is over so what chance is there that everything you or I think is right or wrong. I suppose that is why we vote in politicians to make these decisions for us, we hope that they are making the best decisions for all of our interests but obviously with unknown situations some of their actions may not be the correct ones. Sweden has made a different track to most nations and everybody last week was lauding their efforts and lack of lock-down but over the last few days they are seeing increased death figures from the virus. Really everything is based on best estimate by the powers in charge, informed speculation from experts but the model is different for many. Maybe one model is the best but how will we know until it is all put to bed as best as can be. Remember Trump says he is going to make decisions based on the smartest minds in their fields advising him and yet there are many who think his stance is continuing to be incorrect, so who (excuse the pun) is right. Many will come out of this looking brighter in their judgement but many will be proven wrong but they will still no doubt be experts in their field. Good post mate. My only problem is that those of us who have genuine concerns about how the situation has been handled have been dismissed as callous, anti-vaxers or conspiracy theorists. Edited April 16, 2020 by dcfc2007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alias Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Good post mate. My only problem is that those of us who have genuine concerns about how the situation has been handled have been dismissed as callous, anti-vaxers or conspiracy theorists. Seriously, some folks have trouble politely engaging people who dispute their narrative. Certainly not my first time..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 At least another 3 weeks lockdown in the UK, as thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Krapow said: At least another 3 weeks lockdown in the UK, as thought. Hoping end of May we get back to normal so we can enjoy some of the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, galenkia said: Hoping end of May we get back to normal so we can enjoy some of the summer. I'm still going with mid May, the change in the curve it quite noticeable now. Be delighted if it was before that, i'll have an afro by next week, but think mid May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizondave Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Good post mate. My only problem is that those of us who have genuine concerns about how the situation has been handled have been dismissed as callous, anti-vaxers or conspiracy theorists. I will wait a few more weeks before calling you anything mate lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/04/16/intelligence-officials-weigh-possibility-coronavirus-escaped-fro/?ncid=webmail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqualung Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Krapow said: I'm still going with mid May, the change in the curve it quite noticeable now. Be delighted if it was before that, i'll have an afro by next week, but think mid May. I thought you bought some hair clippers? Come on, man up and be brave! Get the things used, sit back and think you did a bloody good job 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, coxyhog said: https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/04/16/intelligence-officials-weigh-possibility-coronavirus-escaped-fro/?ncid=webmail I don't see the benefit of this sort of speculation .... once this is over and they have proof of where and how the virus started then fair enough ... any moron can make stuff up and publish on the internet , as we've seen with 5G and other stuff 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aqualung said: I thought you bought some hair clippers? Come on, man up and be brave! Get the things used, sit back and think you did a bloody good job 😊 I did, ebay seller sent it via Yodel, who are showing as 'We have collected your parcel' and that's it, from 8th ffs. Of course only way to contact them is via webchat. which you can never connect to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Stillearly said: I don't see the benefit of this sort of speculation .... once this is over and they have proof of where and how the virus started then fair enough ... any moron can make stuff up and publish on the internet , as we've seen with 5G and other stuff Ain't that the truth ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Penevil Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 hours ago, fforest said: If you put a little time into reading alternative sites you might know word on the street says (at worst) there is no plan to bring back normal.....(at best) there is no plan to bring back normal 100%..... Which alternative sites do you feel are reliable? Evil 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Hadn’t looked at the numbers for a few days. USA over 33,000 deaths, Italy’s have slowed down but still growing 2% a day with 22k. Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) US virus job losses hit 22 mn as Trump eyes restarthttps://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1901335/us-virus-job-losses-hit-22-mn-as-trump-eyes-restart Edited April 16, 2020 by lazarus it is what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 🙂 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8219645/Plane-Romanian-fruit-pickers-land-Stansted-tomorrow-farm-labourer-vacancies.html Charter plane full of Romanian fruit pickers will land at Stansted tomorrow to fill farm labourer vacancies – despite coronavirus causing surge in UK unemployment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Stillearly said: 🙂 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8219645/Plane-Romanian-fruit-pickers-land-Stansted-tomorrow-farm-labourer-vacancies.html Charter plane full of Romanian fruit pickers will land at Stansted tomorrow to fill farm labourer vacancies – despite coronavirus causing surge in UK unemployment Absolute farce of a country. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Golfingboy said: Hadn’t looked at the numbers for a few days. USA over 33,000 deaths, Italy’s have slowed down but still growing 2% a day with 22k. Damn Still more illnesses, hospitalisations and deaths from the flu. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Krapow Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Golfingboy said: Hadn’t looked at the numbers for a few days. USA over 33,000 deaths, Italy’s have slowed down but still growing 2% a day with 22k. Damn And that's with near half of the world on lockdown, f**k knows what the numbers would be if it wasn't. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Normally I don't have time for Piers Morgan but ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stillearly said: Normally I don't have time for Piers Morgan but ... He absolutely embarrassed some M.P who was on virtue signalling about the NHS. Same MP voted every year to cap public sector pay rises at 1%. Couldn't make this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Krapow said: And that's with near half of the world on lockdown, f**k knows what the numbers would be if it wasn't. See this is the most Salient point in this whole debate and everyone just blows it off. It's called a nouveau virus for a good reason, because we know f**k all about it. Here in the USA we just never got the testing thing right, so were forced into a shelter in place. In my county of 500,000 we finally received tests, but we had no swabs to conduct the tests. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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