forcebwithu Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Glasseye said: Top of the line, typical in-bred anti-vaxxer - Sarah Palin. Really sad when the best excuse she can come up with is the govt is telling us to get vaccinated, so I'm not going to do it. Why can't some get it through their pea sized brains taking care of one's health and challenging govt mandates they don't agree with are not mutually exclusive. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Glasseye Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, fforest said: They'd need a hazmat team if they swabbed your ass. Merry Christmas ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, fforest said: Fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, fforest said: YAWN..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, fforest said: YAWN..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Starshine said: Fake Not Fake.... https://fr-fr.facebook.com/HammersmithandFulhamCouncil/ Hammersmith & Fulham Council 22 décembre, 01:38 · We all need to get a Covid booster vaccine, because two doses does not give you enough protection against catching Omicron. Find out how to get your Covid vaccinations or booster here: https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/coronavirus-covid-…/covid-19-vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Smooth Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Glasseye said: Top of the line, typical in-bred anti-vaxxer - Sarah Palin. There comes a time where former politicians, on both sides, have long ago went beyond their past due date. Palin is one of them, and apparently her husband got tired of her shit too and split the scene a few years back. Like some runner up American Idol loser still wanting to remain relevant by singing covers of John Denver tunes at a shopping mall, she must have gotten a decent check to show up and pontificate in a not very impressive manner. The host of this....what?....podcast maybe?....looks like he's doing his level best to get hired at MSNBC, his smarminess and condescension displayed here would make Joy Reid stand up and applaud, and it is things like this that the media, both legacy and social, use to keep open and bleeding the fractures and fizzures that are purposefully designed to keep us not only stirred up, but at each other's throats as well. Has ANYTHING involving the medical profession, aside from perhaps abortion, ever become so political in it's messaging? The great frustration I have had the entire time has been in the moving of the goalposts that determine where we are at regarding freedom of movement and social behavior in where we can go or who we can invite over to our homes and the sudden requirements that people must meet to engage in the comings and goings of their day, depending of course on where they live. And again, our media take sides and points fingers at all of us no matter what side we are on, and comparisons are made with papers or in getting or not getting vaccinations with human atrocities that occurred in decades past that, in fact, have NOTHING whatsoever in common with those historical barbarisms. I mean, I've yet to see people who are unvaccinated being loaded up in trains or those of a different ethnicity having the government remove them from their homes and sent off to live in some far away compound, which governments once did, as unbelievable as it sounds today over three quarters of a century later. But then again, our chroniclers of the days events always go overboard in their analogous comparisons with history to make whats going on today seem just as or more important, and by extension themselves, than what took place yesteryear. Simply reporting the news isn't good enough, they must change and reshape the world. We the people have been told one thing then told something else. We are given a timeframe to "hang in there", and then we are told, uh sorry, we need more time for closures and restrictions and mandates. And we witness those episodes where our leaders engage in "do as I say, not as I do", behavior, as if the rules they expect all of us to live by aren't necessary for them. Be it unmasked inside a hair salon, a flight or a Christmas party. That elitist entitlement mentality in full bloom that we see on both sides of the Atlantic. What was once originally a "stay at home" declaration to mitigate the curve and stave off a stampede of sickness due to Covid for 2 weeks in our hospitals, has now metastasized to within the doorstep of 2 years. And our media all have their own medical specialists ready willing and able to spout off the latest speculation, often mixed with political opinion, to show off how smart they are, no matter if any serious perspective or context is missing, and we all take it in with a hopeful ear and eye, in the understanding that it will bring us closer to a conclusion to this pandemic. I'm just sick of being lied to and I know that most of you, probably all of you, are too. My UK friends are sick to death with the constant banter about restrictions and mandates from Boris while in the US, we had a Presidential candidate not named Trump who promised to stop the virus if elected and over a year later, he is now talking about a "Winter of Death". I've been disappointed with reading some of the comments of pure vile and hatred and accusatory tones that some of you guys have toward your fellow board members. Where once bm's shared stories and trip reports in the joys of the companionship of the ladies, the taking the piss out of each other in a night's ribald revelry heavily influenced by alcohol with our friends and mates, the laughs and fond memories.......all of that......has been turned on it's head. Now we have vicious name calling and mocking of each other, we've taken sides against each other and I imagine maybe even a few friendships have been lost in the residue of this madness. In a sense, we have become a mirror image of that society we all once reveled against in being a part of, as this board was an inexorable link to a time and place and hobby that separated us from the norm, as if we all knew something the rest of the world didn't. Kind of made us a special little group. And then this virus comes along to tear apart all that we had built up like a tsunami washing ashore and destroying a beach hut made out of driftwood. We don't need to do this to each other guys. The media monster with all the white noise, the lies and half-truths being told to us, the mocking and maddening idiocy that passes for knowledge, the things we are deliberately not being told.....we are already being laughed at by that one eyed monster spewing forth it's all far too often gaseous contents that sanitizes us with one hand while it babysits us with the other. The joke is on us and not in a good way, but instead in a cruel and callous way. We don't need to pile on ourselves by continuing to mock and laugh at each other. Edited December 26, 2021 by Mr. Smooth 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) The late Rodney King says it all with just a few words: Edited December 26, 2021 by lazarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Meanwhile...currently in the US of A... ..."Despite an alarming spike of cases in the United States — the seven-day average of new daily cases has surpassed 197,000, a 65 percent jump over the last 14 days — government data show that vaccination is still a strong protector against severe illness. Unvaccinated people are five times more likely to test positive and 14 times more likely to die of Covid than vaccinated patients, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."... . . . Rates of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 hospitalizations by vaccination status https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#covidnet-hospitalizations-vaccination . . . Fauci warns against complacency amid data showing Omicron causes milder illness. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/26/science/fauci-omicron.html ... “Even though we’re pleased by the evidence from multiple countries — it looks like there is a lesser degree of severity — we’ve got to be careful that we don’t get complacent about that,” Dr. Fauci said, noting that there were still tens of millions of unvaccinated Americans. “Those are the most vulnerable ones when you have a virus that is extraordinarily effective in getting to people and infecting them the way Omicron is.” Last week, scientists at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland reported that people infected with Omicron were almost 60 percent less likely to be hospitalized than those infected with Delta. Another study from Imperial College London found that individuals infected by Omicron were 15 to 20 percent less likely to go to an emergency room with severe symptoms and 40 percent less likely to be hospitalized. Despite such encouraging data, Dr. Fauci said the nation’s low vaccination rate — only 62 percent of Americans are fully vaccinated — would likely dilute the benefits of Omicron’s reduced virulence. “When you have such a high volume of new infections, it might override a real diminution in severity,” he said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, lazarus said: Unvaccinated people are five times more likely to test positive and 14 times more likely to die of Covid than vaccinated patients, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.".... Yeah, but once you're vaccinated you lose the choice to get vaccinated or not. That's the logic some antivaxxers use. But if I get the brakes on the car fixed then I lose the choice to have them fixed or not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, fygjam said: Yeah, but once you're vaccinated you lose the choice to get vaccinated or not. That's the logic some antivaxxers use. But if I get the brakes on the car fixed then I lose the choice to have them fixed or not. If we were to have a poll on the most non-sensical post of 2021, that one would be a contender for the no. 1 spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Was speaking to a mate from work earlier. His missus tested positive about a week ago. He's been testing everyday for a week now and still testing negative. He was still coming to work every day and carrying on like normal. I work pretty closely with him and I tested again yesterday and still negative. Sort of makes a mockery of this isolation bollocks and close contact pinging shite when we are still testing negative. I think we should only have to isolate if testing positive, and if not just carry on like normal. I know I would if I was in his situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, galenkia said: Was speaking to a mate from work earlier. His missus tested positive about a week ago. He's been testing everyday for a week now and still testing negative. He was still coming to work every day and carrying on like normal. I work pretty closely with him and I tested again yesterday and still negative. Sort of makes a mockery of this isolation bollocks and close contact pinging shite when we are still testing negative. I think we should only have to isolate if testing positive, and if not just carry on like normal. I know I would if I was in his situation. I got pinged a few weeks ago,tested negative & carried on as normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Anyone wondering whether to get jabbed or not should read this guy on Twitter....or maybe not if you're going to think it's fake news.... Craig Spencer MD MPH @Craig_A_Spencer NYC ER doctor | Ebola Survivor | Director of Global Health in Emergency Medicine @ColumbiaMed | Teach Public Health @ColumbiaMSPH | @MSF_USA Board of Directors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasseye Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Glasseye said: 555 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, coxyhog said: Anyone wondering whether to get jabbed or not should read this guy on Twitter....or maybe not if you're going to think it's fake news.... Craig Spencer MD MPH @Craig_A_Spencer NYC ER doctor | Ebola Survivor | Director of Global Health in Emergency Medicine @ColumbiaMed | Teach Public Health @ColumbiaMSPH | @MSF_USA Board of Directors lol...hang on...when fforest mentions twitter he gets howled down and vaccinators make fun of his post........ lets see if they are consistent....... I bet not...lol cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I am not sure I trust the online NHS Scotland booking system for booster appointments. My two daughters and my granddaughter have all changed their booster appointments to 10.55 tomorrow so we can all go together to the Pyramids vaccination center. I fear chaos if 50 punters have all booked 10:50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, roobob said: lol...hang on...when fforest mentions twitter he gets howled down and vaccinators make fun of his post........ lets see if they are consistent....... I bet not...lol cheers That's because like you, posts utter shite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, roobob said: lol...hang on...when fforest mentions twitter he gets howled down and vaccinators make fun of his post........ lets see if they are consistent....... I bet not...lol cheers Perhaps if @fforestposted tweets from people with the creds of Dr Craig Spencer he wouldn't get howled down but then people with the creds of Dr Craig Spencer don't push the antivaxx or conspiracy stuff that appeals to fforest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Latest CDC (US) data by vaccine status: Unvaccinated: 451 cases per 100k Vaccinated: 134 cases per 100k Boosted: 48 cases per 100k Unvaccinated: 6.1 deaths per 100k Vaccinated: 0.5 deaths per 100k Boosted: 0.1 deaths per 100k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 97% Of People Entering (US) Hospitals For COVID-19 Are Unvaccinated https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017012853/97-of-people-entering-hospitals-for-covid-19-are-unvaccinated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, lazarus said: 97% Of People Entering (US) Hospitals For COVID-19 Are Unvaccinated https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017012853/97-of-people-entering-hospitals-for-covid-19-are-unvaccinated Don't tell Aaron Rodgers or Kyrie Irving OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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