grayray Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, Britboy said: Good for you Grayray. That must have taken some bottle, though I guess the red mist overtook being Mr Sensible. didn't have time to think just did it,think he was too shocked plus there was NO bike taxi/doorman around to come to his aid. felt a goose later,was thinking that it could cost me blood or bhat or both. have seen the red mist a few times in my travels,got into bother more than once,never in LOS them blokes play for keeps,NO smiles when they get going. regards grayray 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 hours ago, grayray said: had simular back in the late 90s at the post poffice in soi Post office, standing nice and peaceful in line maybe hour and ahalf get to the front and this wee local just walks straight up and the shelia behind the counter starts to serve him,i very peacefully hold the back of his jacket and take him to the end of the line,no yelling no anger,just right flucked off.every one, bar him and the shelia cheer, all the thais was laughing their tits off seems he is a repeat offender. must admit I had eyes in the back of me head for week or so. I try my best at all times in LOS to hide my anger,got holes in my tongue from bitting it. regards grayray I was shocked about 10 years back in Chiang Mai. Was at a 7/11, and I guess the high schoolers just got out. One prick jumped in front of me, and the cashier firmly told him he can’t do that and served me. Can’t believe a local sided with a farang, even back then I knew enough to keep my mouth shut. And I didn’t want her to lose face or make him lose face. So the line jumping thing is definitely not 100%, across the board accepted by the Thais 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayray Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Golfingboy said: I was shocked about 10 years back in Chiang Mai. Was at a 7/11, and I guess the high schoolers just got out. One prick jumped in front of me, and the cashier firmly told him he can’t do that and served me. Can’t believe a local sided with a farang, even back then I knew enough to keep my mouth shut. And I didn’t want her to lose face or make him lose face. So the line jumping thing is definitely not 100%, across the board accepted by the Thais GB, I just remembered I had a pretty good back up,TG who was a Isan champion thai fighter,see her go once or twice,hard and tough,but,oh!so gentle in bed. loved a good 69 season especially on a quiet arvo back in the room,started every session we had,i am sitting here remembering little details from back 30years ago ,when I have trouble finding some thing I put away 10minutes ago. oh! its great to be alive------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- just regards grayray 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Fondles Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Golfingboy said: I was shocked about 10 years back in Chiang Mai. Was at a 7/11, and I guess the high schoolers just got out. One prick jumped in front of me, and the cashier firmly told him he can’t do that and served me. have had that happen a few times at the 7/11 and it always makes me chuckle out loud !! Edited October 13, 2019 by Sir_Fondles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Britboy Posted November 25, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2019 Well, it's been a few weeks since I did an update and after the bollocking from @grayray . . 😉 for not posting on this thread for a while, here I am. As always in Thailand, it's been an interesting few weeks and quite a lot has happened. First of all, I've cleared the decks. It all became a bit too complicated, time consuming and to be honest, worrying. I came to Thailand to have fun, initially for 6 months. It certainly started off that way, but after 10 weeks, for varying reasons, I was having to think too much about certain girls. I didn't set out to clear the decks completely, but that's how it worked out. Bank girl - binned. Even "good" girls have baggage and this one was no exception. She was a nice girl and I was aware of some "baggage". Not kids, not sick buffalo, not brother have motorbike accident. It was debt. She did tell me she had debt - what I didn't realise was the extent. She had funded an ex Thai bf's business, to the tune of millions. Usual story, he had no credit, she borrowed to the hilt, using the bank she worked for, 2 good friends and her mum as guarantors in some cases and you've guessed it - they split up and the business went tits up. So turns out she's 5 million in debt, a couple of the debts have gone to court, she's about to lose her house that has a big mortgage that she can't pay and she was laid off by the bank because of all the debt. The irony is she was looking after corporate clients at her bank. It came to a head when one of the banks she owed money to, that her mum had guaranteed, issued court papers. In order to defer this she had to pay 22k within 5 working days. She didn't have it. What amazes me is that banks here can't do credit checks on guarantors as her mum doesn't have any money - she works in a traditional Thai massage place out in the boonies. One of bank girls "plays" to me in the beginning was that she would never ask for money. To be fair, she didn't, but laid the story on so thick, with the tears and blubbing, obviously hoping I'd cave. And you've guessed it. I did. Well, partly. The 22k was 2 months payment. I told her I'd give her 11k for 1 month. I told her I'm sure this would keep the court at bay for a while and buy her some time. I did see the court papers (though in Thai, I could make out the legitimacy). So I gave her 11k in cash, she went back to Rungsit and next day she messaged me the online payment graphic for the 11k payment to the bank. After she'd left, I sat down and thought deeply about the whole situation. I came to the obvious conclusion that the debt isn't going to go away - it's only going to get worse as the courts go through their processes. I was certainly not going to bail her out to the tune of 5 million. But that wasn't the only reason I called it off. During the last weekend she stayed with me, I came into the kitchen one morning and saw her taking a tablet. I asked what she was taking and she showed me the packet. It was a very strong anti-depressant and she showed me another relaxant she was also taking. Both on prescription,as it turns out, from a shrink. We sat on the balcony and she unloaded. She'd been seeing a shrink for 9 months due to the anxiety and pressure of the debt. I can understand and sympathise with that - but what she said next worried me to death. She said 9 months ago she was seriously thinking about suicide. She said she was thinking about killing herself at least once every hour. She was very close a few times and said the only reason she didn't was her mother. She continued that it was always when she was in a high building (her bank offices were high and she had access to the roof area) that she seriously considered jumping. I came over in a cold sweat when she said that - there we were sitting on my 11th floor balcony. Visions flashed through my mind, one of which was getting up one morning, finding her not beside me in bed, looking over the balcony and . . . . . And as a farang, how would the police/authorities view an incident like this? I could be in a lot of trouble for something I'm not responsible for. It was an awful day and night for me after that. I'd already decided to end it before she unloaded on the suicidal tendencies, but I rejigged my strategy so that I wouldn't say anything until she was back in Rungsit. Thankfully the day and night went ok and she left on the Monday morning to go home to Rungsit. Massive sigh of relief on my part as I saw the car drive away from my condo. So later that day I instigated a set of messages and finished it. I didn't want to tip things over the edge, so finished it in as nice a way as possible. She was upset, but accepted it and understood. That was 5 weeks ago and I've had no contact since. However, I am concerned. She was a prolific Facebook poster, having her own site and she put updates on daily. I'm not on that God-awful site personally, but I do have an anonymous account to allow me to have a poke around. Think I mentioned this in a previous post, I've used it previously to vett potential employees when they get on a short-list. Anyway, there's been no update on her site since November 14th. At least that's 2 weeks after I finished it, she was updating for 2 weeks, then all quiet. I do hope she's ok. When all is said and done, she was a lovely girl (some of you boys met her at Le Pub), just got herself into some real crap. My advice was to simply go bankrupt, but it seems the bankruptcy laws are very different here than in the UK. After a couple of days, I sat on my balcony one night with a couple of Singha's and thought it all through. Certainly, without that baggage, I'd have been very interested in a long term relationship with her. Apart from being stunning (of course that's subjective, but she was for me) and I would say almost the perfect age for me (37), she also had no kids. She was intelligent (2 degrees) and did have a good job. But the mountain of debt and her state of mind were the obvious swaying factors. I then looked at things from a financial point of view. Being with her had cost me around 50k over the 8 or 9 weeks I'd been seeing her. This wasn't just handing her money, that was just the 11k to make a bank payment, but covering her travel expenses to and from Rungsit most weekends, buying all her food and drink while she was with me (she rarely drank alcohol, just the odd cocktail and maybe 1 beer during an evening), some general entertainment, like I took her mum and brother out for lunch a couple of times, etc. I then compared that cost with what I would have spent if I didn't have her. Over the 8 weekends she stayed with me (Fri, Sat and Sun nights) that's 24 nights. Over 24 nights, let's say just half of them I went out on the "pull". So that's 12 nights. If I'd have taken gogo girls, long time, on those 12 nights, how much would that have cost me? With the mercenary way gogo girls go after lady drinks and the unrealistic cost of barfines and what "stipend" they want, I'd say bank girl was a lot, lot cheaper. On a good night out, without even taking a girl, I'm shifting 5k. I only worked out the finances as an exercise. I don't regret what I spent on/with bank girl. She was a pleasure to be with and she certainly did "take care". Anyway, that's a long story but I thought worth sharing. I also cleared the decks with gogo girl. That was a lot easier and a much shorter story. Those who've read my updates will know that first time with gogo girl she was so rough I had a very swollen and sore helmet for 2-3 days afterwards. I gave her a few more chances, trying to instil the "gentle" mantra and for a while she was ok. It was quite a good routine - she'd come to my condo once or twice a week around 3 pm. She was quite an exhibitionist and loved having sex on my balcony in broad daylight on one of the sofas I have outside. I wasn't complaining and on the good days it was excellent. She left around 6 pm to go to work. Ideal set up for me. However, she started to get rough again. That's obviously her MO and despite all my efforts I couldn't get it through her head that doesn't work for me. The last but one time she came I told her if she's rough again she can't come any more. The next time she came, we got out on the balcony, just started a bit of foreplay, first she rubbed my nuts so hard I thought they'd retracted up to my chest, then as we were kissing she bit my top lip. That was it. I got up, told her to go. Enough is enough. She didn't want to go, burst into tears and apologised. Too late, that's it. Had the devil's own job to get her out of my apartment. Had to threaten to call security, which finally did the trick. I put 2k on my kitchen top, told her to take it and go. "No, no, I not want that" she said. I opened the 2 doors to exit my condo and stood outside. Flashes through my head of what I'd left out that she could nick if she was so inclined, thankfully everything was in the safe. She was crying and said she needed the bathroom to tidy herself up. I stayed outside waiting for her, thinking what she could nick in the bathroom. Other than 3 or 4 very expensive bottles of men's smellies, there was nothing I could think of. Didn't think she'd want to nick my nose hair device. It seemed like ages but finally she came outside with her stuff, slung her arms around my waist and asked for forgiveness. Too late. I had to forcefully pull her arms from my back, which took a bit of strength I must say. But I achieved it, went inside and shut/locked the doors. Went into the bathroom, nothing gone. But you can guess what had gone, right? Yep, the 2k she said she didn't want. So, within a few days I'd cleared the decks. I was relieved. It's so easy here to get into these kind of positions. I'm still getting messages from gogo girl, but I'm just ignoring them. If she doesn't give up I'll just block her. This update has got quite large, so will save some stuff for the next update. Main one being, I like a challenge. It's easy for any of us to go to a gogo or bar, barfine a girl and bang her. No achievement in that. So, alongside that, I have a project with a restaurant waitress. Will go into detail on that in the next update. Couple of quick bits though. I went to Cambodia for a few days earlier this month, with a Brit mate ,who I actually met since moving here. Great guy and we have such a laugh. He was going to Pnomh Penh on business, so I tagged along. We had fun, but I wouldn't rush back. We found a great restaurant on the waterside - Oskas. Really nice atmosphere, nice food and good waiting staff. On the Wednesday night it was ladies night, 2 for 1 drinks for ladies. Some real stunners, but overall in the bars the girls were very average. We did go to Secrets. The place itself is good. It's large and has a nice layout. A lot of staff, some general girls and waitress-type staff. We arrived at 3 am, the place was deserted. Only us 2, we sat at the bar. Had a couple of drinks, chatted to a few girls and bought some lady drinks while we surveyed what was available. I wasn't in the mood to take a girl - too late and too much alcohol. But my mate was up for it and spotted a cute waitress standing a short distance from us. He called her over, bought her a drink and chatted for a few minutes. It was around 3.45 by this time. He asked about the barfine. "oh, she waitress, cannot barfine until 5 am". WTF? We're the only 2 customers in there FFS. "Owner not here, rule is 5 am, sorry". Needless to say we drank up, paid up and left. We did have an hilarious incident in the hotel - will include that in the next update. My fingers are tired . . . Happy to give a quick update on the gogos in WS and LK if anyone's interested. Again will go into more detail in the next update, but been on quite a few nights out and crawls over the last few weeks. Bottom line is it's just so volatile and varies incredibly from night to night. In recent weeks I've had both brilliant and crap nights at both WS and LK. There's no logic as to when it's good and when it's poor. Best line-ups of girls I've found in WS are Sapphire and Pin-up. But both mercenary for lady-drinks and even mamasan-drinks. The mate and I have done a few crawls around WS (some good, some poor) and we did one in LK which was lousy. Just generally a bad night - empty gogo's, standard of girl very poor and some gogos with very few girls. While also going to the "popular" gogos, we've also tried a few that are never mentioned, just for variety sake. We found one that's really good that I've never seen mentioned anywhere. My mate and I made a pact not to tell anyone about it, so keeping shtum on that one. What I can say is, for hands on gogos, in WS it's Electric Blue and Beavers (there's an internal open connecting door between the two) and in LK it's Pandoras and Kink. I'll update again in a few weeks if guys are still interested. 7 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Nice update ! See when I say they're ALL a pain in the arse....... But you did the right thing, stopping it before the disaster stage. 👍👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhodie Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 That's some load of baggage. You did well. Thanks for the update! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Thanks for the update. Nice to have a brief chat the other night. I did wonder what had happened when I see you take the lady with the fit body home! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, boydeste said: I did wonder what had happened when I see you take the lady with the fit body home! Well I doubt they spent the night playing scrabble. 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboy Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, boydeste said: Thanks for the update. Nice to have a brief chat the other night. I did wonder what had happened when I see you take the lady with the fit body home! Good to see you too. Variety is the spice of life, as "they" say. Fancied a change and she does have a really fit body. @Jambo, no scrabble but she did play with my counters . . . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Jambo said: Well I doubt they spent the night playing scrabble. 🤣 Possibly snakes and ladders. 🤗 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Great update for sure.....thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayray Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Britboy, I was just taking a wee bit of piss mate,plus I do enjoy all of your posts,you did the right thing mate, you are there for a good time,not to put up with shit,there is thousands that will jump into their spot in the bed,do you know about the 3 day rule?---------------LOL not that I keep to it 3 day BFs then update to a new model. do you have "newbie" tat on your forehead? be strong and firm mate, regards grayray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampla69 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Smart move D. Met her and she was a nice lady I agree but when I read this: 'She said 9 months ago she was seriously thinking about suicide. She said she was thinking about killing herself at least once every hour. She was very close a few times and said the only reason she didn't was her mother. She continued that it was always when she was in a high building (her bank offices were high and she had access to the roof area) that she seriously considered jumping. I came over in a cold sweat when she said that - there we were sitting on my 11th floor balcony. Visions flashed through my mind, one of which was getting up one morning, finding her not beside me in bed, looking over the balcony and . . . . . ' Run FForest run .... and keep running ......... there's baggage but she had the whole of the Royal Mail Train .... well done !!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboy Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 hours ago, grayray said: Britboy, I was just taking a wee bit of piss mate,plus I do enjoy all of your posts,you did the right thing mate, you are there for a good time,not to put up with shit,there is thousands that will jump into their spot in the bed,do you know about the 3 day rule?---------------LOL not that I keep to it 3 day BFs then update to a new model. do you have "newbie" tat on your forehead? be strong and firm mate, regards grayray Hey Grayray, Of course I realised you were taking the piss, hence my winking emoticon. So no worries. A "newbie" tat? I hardly think so, after coming here for nearly 20 years. And bank girl was not my only "long term" relationship. Had one last 8 years with a Thai girl, most of which was in the UK. This is the first time I've actually lived here though, which is wholly different to being the typical two-week millionaire. It would be easy to do serious damage to yourself if you partied when living here full time the same as being on a two-week holiday. Have to pace yourself. I actually go two or three days on the bounce not going out and not drinking alcohol. Friday and Saturday nights I hit the town, but Sunday I stayed in the condo all day drinking loads of water and my favourite banana milk. Did decide to go out for dinner last night, went to one of my usual haunts, Robin's Nest, near LK. Nice dinner, couple of beers in Rockhouse then went to a few gogo's (Queen, Champagne and Lady Love). I would estimate that there were not more than 20 customers in total over those 3 gogos. So, so quiet. Poked my head in another couple, very few girls dancing and no punters, so did about turns without even buying a drink. I had arrived at Robin's Nest around 8 pm and I was in a cab home at 10.30. It was Monday night, but didn't expect it to be that quiet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondropkid Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Britboy said: Hey Grayray, Of course I realised you were taking the piss, hence my winking emoticon. So no worries. A "newbie" tat? I hardly think so, after coming here for nearly 20 years. And bank girl was not my only "long term" relationship. Had one last 8 years with a Thai girl, most of which was in the UK. This is the first time I've actually lived here though, which is wholly different to being the typical two-week millionaire. It would be easy to do serious damage to yourself if you partied when living here full time the same as being on a two-week holiday. Have to pace yourself. I actually go two or three days on the bounce not going out and not drinking alcohol. Friday and Saturday nights I hit the town, but Sunday I stayed in the condo all day drinking loads of water and my favourite banana milk. Did decide to go out for dinner last night, went to one of my usual haunts, Robin's Nest, near LK. Nice dinner, couple of beers in Rockhouse then went to a few gogo's (Queen, Champagne and Lady Love). I would estimate that there were not more than 20 customers in total over those 3 gogos. So, so quiet. Poked my head in another couple, very few girls dancing and no punters, so did about turns without even buying a drink. I had arrived at Robin's Nest around 8 pm and I was in a cab home at 10.30. It was Monday night, but didn't expect it to be that quiet. Great job not succumbing to the temptation of being on the piss everyday 👍Must help having a great place to stay and work to do, but well done!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said: Great job not succumbing to the temptation of being on the piss everyday 👍Must help having a great place to stay and work to do, but well done!!! Thats the biggest problem,time on your hands and to easy to fill it drinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboy Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Lemondropkid said: Great job not succumbing to the temptation of being on the piss everyday 👍Must help having a great place to stay and work to do, but well done!!! Absolutely. Sitting on the balcony right now with a bottle of banana milk and a cigar watching the beautiful red sunset over the ocean. Now, what to do tonight . . 😉 Edited November 26, 2019 by Britboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Britboy said: Absolutely. Sitting on the balcony right now with a bottle of banana milk and a cigar watching the beautiful red sunset over the ocean. Now, what to do tonight . . 😉 Go on the piss 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Britboy Posted May 12, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2020 Greetings from the cold, locked down east coast of England. It's been a while since I posted, after reading the rest of this entry you'll understand why. My last post on this thread was the end of November, so will pick up from there. I thoroughly enjoyed December in Thailand. It's the first time in my life I've spend Christmas away from the UK. Although I lived in USA for 3 years in the mid 80's we always came home to England for Christmas, to spend it with the extended family. While I loved living in USA, Christmas sucked there. No Boxing Day? WTF? Can't beat going to the pub then the footie on Boxing Day. It was nice to see the apartments I could see from my balcony decorated with Christmas lights and decorations. My apartment block (Grand Condotel) put up trees and some decorations and all the staff got into the Christmas spirit. It was tough being away from my kids and grandkids over Christmas though. While we did have some video calls, not the same as being there. During December I spent a fair bit of time at Le Pub. Really pleased I made some good friends there, enjoyed playing pool with one mate in particular and a couple of the girls. Mr Teacher they used to call me, as I tried to help them improve their game. My stock phrase "think about the white ball". Fell on deaf ears most of the time. I also spent a fair few late afternoons/early evenings in Kit Kat, in Jomtien. Only a shortish walk from my condo. I like the atmosphere in there, got to know the ladies behind the bar and the boss, so had a good time, whether I partook or not. There were a couple that became "regulars", even getting one over to my condo on her day off. I'm still in touch with this one, will have some comments on the girls in general a bit later. In December I also made my first ever sojourn to Soi 6. Unbelievable I hear you say. Well, I loved it. Some great girls there and it wasn't that busy. Went there 4 times and got hold of 4 different mid 20's slim stunners. Great fun and will definitely go back when I return (at some stage) to Thailand. I know there's a lot of politics about certain bars or groups of bars, but I didn't think about any of that and just went to have some fun. Went with a mate the first time, then on my own after that. The only downside for me was it's a bit of a trek from Jomtien, but Grab worked great most of the time. I'd cleared the decks as far as regular girls are concerned, with the exception of the gogo girl, who came round a couple of times a week at lunch time for a session before she went to work. That worked great and she was a real tiger, especially once I got her to lose the roughness. No more sore helmets thankfully. I was also working on the girl working in a local restaurant. Real stunner, never had a farang bf, 26, but she was hard work. Very conscientious about her job and in high season she was working in the restaurant from 7 am to 10 pm most days. Difficult therefore to have any real time with her. Plus she slept at the restaurant, sharing a room with her real auntie, who was keeping an eye on her. Never managed to get her to stay over unfortunately, but still in touch with her. She's in Sisaket now - the restaurant closed about a month ago due to the virus. I was preparing for my departure, scheduled for Jan 29th. My reasons for going back, at that stage, were two fold. First, my consulting contract finished at the end of Jan and 2nd my mum was going downhill mentally and I'd always said after the 6 months I'd go and spend some time with her before deciding what to do long term. However, I decided to extend by a couple of weeks, primarily because my 6 month lease expired on Feb 12th. When I first arrived in August I stayed in the Evergreen Wing of the Areca for 11 or 12 nights, found the condo during that time, so signed a 6 month lease from August 12th. I'd already paid for the rental until Feb 12th and checking with BA they had availability and it was only £150 to change my flight. No brainer and avoided the horrible January/February English weather for another couple of weeks. I've read some horrific stories about Thai landlords, particularly non-return of deposits. But I must say my landlord was brilliant and still swapping messages with him now. It was a young Thai guy who was living with his English father (at least they told me they were father and son, never really got to the bottom of that). He looked 100% Thai to me, but the English guy said it's his son from a long finished relationship with a Thai woman. The English guy was 78, from Bristol, a bit doddery, but a nice guy. The Thai "son" was obviously his front for owning a number of condo's/apartments and also owned and ran a big restaurant. Any issues they fixed immediately, even getting Siemens in to fix the dishwasher as the local guy couldn't fix it as well as getting me the fastest possible broadband, which they paid for every month. I was getting up to 30 mbps, so ideal for my work and tv streaming. They didn't charge me for the extra day (technically my lease expired at midnight on 11th Feb). My flight was at 11.15 am, so got a cab to pick me up at 7 am. They inspected the condo around 8 am and my deposit was returned immediately, arriving in my Thai bank account before I'd even arrived at Swampy. Very impressive. Having said that, I was a good tenant, never caused any problems. If I had, they would have seen and heard anyway as they actually lived in the next door but 1 condo on my level. But they did see various girls come and go throughout the 6 months, the only reaction being a wink. If I come back I would certainly consider staying there again. It was really quiet, which I like, except periodically the noise from various building work in nearby buildings, though the hours they were allowed to make noise was strictly limited. So, a painless departure and arrived back in cold London the evening of Feb 12th. And it was back with a bang. The GM and Regional Director of Grosvener Casino had invited me to a "Welcome back Britboy" party at one of the London casino and organised a 5 star hotel for 2 nights for myself and my business partner. This was arranged for Feb 12th when I was returning on Jan 29th. It was all organised, so when I changed to come back Feb 12th it was that actual night. I arrived at Heathrow at 5.30 pm, the casino had sent a car for me (I was very grateful for that as I had 2 quite large suitcases and my golf clubs). I'd swapped messages with my business partner and his timing was perfect. He'd just arrived at the hotel when my car rolled up. Hadn't seen him for nearly 7 months, a big man-hug then check in, shower/shave and a walk to the casino. I'd arranged for my son to come too and he was bringing his new girlfriend who I hadn't met. The GM and Regional director had also arranged for £1k of complimentary chips to play with, a fantastic dinner and a good few bottles of Malbec, all on the house. We had a great night and crawled into bed about 4 am. As I'd got rid of my car before going to Thailand in August, I'd hired a car for a couple of weeks, so around lunch time the car was delivered and I drove initially to Ipswich as I had another couple of booze up's organised, plus going to the Ipswich game on the Saturday. After all that was done, on the 18th I drove to my mum's house on the coast. I'd called my mum every two or three days from Thailand. I could tell she was deteriorating mentally. At 93, that's understandable of course. I was concerned though as while she did know I was overseas, she was not remembering I was in Thailand. She kept saying "how's Malaysia?" or "how's Indonesia?" And she couldn't get her head around the fact I was 7/6 hours ahead of UK. Every so often I'd wake up in the morning and find a missed call from her at 3 or 4 am Thai time. She'd obviously been sitting watching TV at 8 or 9 pm and called me. There were lots of other examples, so I wanted to come and spend some time with her as well as ensure all her affairs, bills, etc. were in order. Before going to Thailand I got myself on her bank account so I could monitor and make payments for her and some of the suppliers were emailing me invoices. But some couldn't do that and I was sure there would be issues. I arrived on Feb 18th and settled in to the spare room. Of course at this time the virus was starting to take a hold, so I was glad to be with mum as I could see things were only going to get a lot worse on that front. She did have carers coming in every morning for half an hour, to make sure she was ok and set her up for the day, making her breakfast. Luckily her house is next door to a residential care home and I set up the deal with them to visit about 3 years ago. At the same time I organised cleaners to come in once a week. I decided not to change either arrangement. I didn't want to disrupt my mum's routines. While her quality of life wasn't brilliant, mainly due to her failing legs so she couldn't get out on her own, she did enjoy watching tv and reading. She's a very intelligent lady and she still enjoyed learning, family history and general history, particularly of the town she lives. But she was getting very frustrated as her brain wasn't working properly and she knew her forgetfulness was getting worse. It was nice to spend some real time with her, though kept myself to myself the majority of the time. I'd kept all my stuff in storage while in Thailand, so arranged for some of my stuff, including winter clothes and some tech stuff, including my big tv, to be delivered. So along with the android boxes acquired in Thailand I set myself up in the spare room, I upgraded the wifi so I could mole in the room when I needed to. I took her out for a few lunches. She loves the local yacht club and has been a member for years, so took her there once a week. It was a time-consuming effort for her to get ready to go out, but she enjoyed having a nice meal. But mentally it was apparent she was deteriorating quite fast. It culminated one day mid-March when at 11.30 pm I heard her walk past my room. I came out to see her fully dressed with a small bag walking towards the front door. I asked her what she was doing and she said that it was time to go home now. I said "well you are home mum". She said "no, I have to go home to Maidstone Road". This is the road she grew up in, with my grandparents. This was quite a shock and it took ages to persuade her that she was at home. I finally got her back into her bedroom and to bed. I didn't sleep a wink that night, in case she tried it again. All was ok for a few days, but she did exactly the same again on March 26th. This time though she'd managed to sneak past me without me hearing. The first I knew was a phone call from the care home next door, saying they'd seen my mum outside, walking in the middle of the main road!! Thankfully they brought her home. Again, she was trying to get to Maidstone Road. This was getting serious now and I was at a loss to know what to do for the best. The first thing I did was lock the door and keep the key in my pocket. I got her settled again in the lounge. It was around 7 pm. What a nightmare, as she'd sit watching tv for maybe 10 minutes, then try to get out again. She did this at least 20 times throughout the evening. I tried everything. Cajoling, being cross, letting her try to get out but couldn't. Nothing worked and it was a torrid time. Finally, around 10.30 pm I got her into her bedroom and laying on the bed. I closed the door and prayed that would be it for the night. Thankfully it was, but again I didn't sleep a wink, just listening and waiting for her to try it again. Next morning, around 10 am, she did try it again. I had dropped off so didn't hear her walk past my room, but heard the door banging as she was trying to open it. This happened 3 times, each time I got her back into the kitchen/diner, made her a coffee and sat with her. Meanwhile, I was thinking what the hell to do. The virus was in full swing by now and lockdown was in place. I was seriously thinking about calling an ambulance, but what could I tell them? She wasn't "ill" as such. A real dilemma. I went back to my room as I had a bit of work to do. About 10 minutes later, I heard a noise in the conservatory. I pondered for a minute, wondering what it was. Not a loud thud, not a crash, just an odd noise. I decided to check it out and found mum collapsed in between a couple of chairs. She was laying on the floor, unconscious and with laboured breathing. Decision made, 999. The operator said they're really busy because of the virus and said 45 minutes. Shit, not good. Mum didn't move, I made her as comfortable as possible and waited. She was a bit pale, but otherwise there were no other signs of damage. She wasn't bleeding thankfully. The ambulance arrived in 20 minutes and did a quick assessment. They couldn't really diagnose, but it was obvious she needed to go to hospital. Getting her out of the conservatory wasn't easy, but the ambulance guys did a great job and got her on a trolley. I waited outside while they did that. As they wheeled her over the cobbled driveway one of the ambulance drivers asked "is her face normally like that?" The right hand side of her face had dropped, so it was obviously a stroke. She hadn't been like that in the conservatory though. I gave my details and they took her to hospital. I couldn't go as the hospital was on lockdown, which was very frustrating. About 3 hours later the hospital called me to say she has had a severe stroke. Her blood pressure was very high, so they needed to get that down first, before administering drugs to hopefully disperse the clot. They called again the following day to say they'd stabilised her BP and that they had just administered the drugs. It'll take 24 hours to know if it had any effect. With the hospital on lockdown, couldn't go and visit. So bloody annoying. The hospital was a bit frustrating as you'd think with no visitors allowed they'd put in place a system whereby they'd call the relatives of all patients, especially in the stroke unit where my mum was, to give a daily update. No such system. They didn't call the following day and hadn't called by 3 pm the next day, so I got on the phone. It took a while, but finally got through to the ward and got an update. Unfortunately the drugs had no affect, despite them providing a very strong dose. It was clearly a major stroke. It was at this time the hospital needed to know my/our feelings on ongoing care. They asked about DNR and end of life care. I said "how do you expect me to make that kind of decision without even seeing her? I can't make a decision like that without seeing what her condition is for myself". The consultant agreed and said they'd set up a visit for me the following day. A time was arranged and I went in. I arrived and had to get gowned and masked up. The took me to her bed. She was really, really poorly. Her whole right side was shot and it was obvious she couldn't move her right arm or right leg. She was in and out of consciousness and when she was conscious it was only minimal. She did look around a little bit and did look at me. I talked to her and she squeezed my hand, but I'm not sure if she knew it was me. I was masked up, so may have been very confusing for her, if she was aware. It was awful to see her like that. This was on the Wednesday, April 1st. My brother had driven us to the hospital, but he decided he didn't want to go in. The hospital said that he could come in for 15 minutes, but he couldn't face seeing mum in such a poorly state. Thankfully my mum, brother and I had this discussion previously and my mum had said DNR. She had often said over recent months that she wish she could take a pill. So the hospital was told DNR and end of life care. She had already lost a lot of weight when I saw her and I honestly thought she wouldn't last the day. But she was a fighter, despite her not wanting to be here. I guess it shows that the body has a natural ability to fight even if the mind doesn't want to. She battled on for another 4 days. At 10.30 pm on April 5th I got a call to say she was unlikely to last the night, but we couldn't go in. At 11.40 pm I got the call to say it was all over. We were in the same position as all the covid-related deaths and other deaths too, where no visitors allowed. It's horrific. The thought of mum in her last hours being alone in a hospital bed will stay with me for ever. At least I did get to spend a few weeks with her, so I'm so glad I came back from Thailand when I did. Since April 5th I've been sorting out all her affairs, making arrangements and clearing the house. It was a real clutterfest and I'm only just breaking the back of it. Due to all the restrictions of the virus, it was pointless having a funeral. At that time only two people were allowed to attend. I thought it would be better to have her cremated, keep the ashes and have a memorial and celebration of her life later in the year, when the lockdown has eased. In hindsight I'm really happy with that decision, particularly as I've arranged something special for the scattering of her ashes. She loved the sea, the fishing industry where she's lived all her adult life, the lifeboat service and the yacht club. So, we're going to have a short memorial service at a church that's on the cliffs overlooking the north sea, where both my brother and I were Christened and where both my kids were Christened. A short walk away is her favourite pub, again overlooking the north sea, so we'll have a drink for her there. And via contacts I've arranged that the local lifeboat will come to the coast opposite the pub and scatter both her and my dads ashes (that she's kept at home for 25 years) into the north sea. I know both mum and dad would be very pleased about that. The lifeboat will then give a number of loud blasts on the horn. I plan to have a large glass of red wine in my hand when that all happens. I guess the shock and acceptance has now sunk in, though going through all the house has brought back so many memories. I've found so much historic and memorable stuff, including my mum's pigtails that were lopped off when she was evacuated for WW2. Beautiful long blond pigtails, she really did have beautiful hair. It's not been easy getting all the affairs in order, most places closed or on very limited service due to the virus. But got the majority of it done now, just waiting for probate to be granted before I can organise the finances. So now I'm in the process of deciding what to do next. It's going to take a few months to get everything sorted, especially to sell her house. I'm staying here in order to get everything sorted and my brother is doing his bit too. He runs a stall at a local Emporium and he'll be selling a lot of the ornaments and nick nacks that mum had - and there's loads. She also has a stack of old 78 records, some from her and dad's time as teenagers, but many go back to my grandmother. It's been interesting cataloguing them as some are worth a few quid. There's some original Al Jolson and Bing Crosby 78's. It's amazing how heavy they are, compared to the records of today. There's also a lot of really old books, which I'm yet to go through and some original pictures. Providing travel is allowed, I plan on coming back to Thailand in September or October, probably only for a month to start with. It really depends on whether we've managed to sell the house by then, but I think that's unlikely. Probate is going to take 8-12 weeks, at least, to get approved. My retirement visa expires at the end of October, so would like to get that renewed to give me the option to come back long term. Having said that, I've swapped emails with the Agency I use in Pattaya and they've said not to worry, even if I come back after October they can still get me a new retirement visa. But I'd rather avoid that hassle, come back for a month to renew and just chill out after what has been a really hectic 3 months for the reasons explained. So what's my opinion of my 6+ months full time in Thailand, do I want to live there permanently and what did I miss from the UK? I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Thailand. The plus points are the girls and the availability to satisfy carnal desires whenever and with pretty much whomever you like, the weather (this is a positive and a negative for me), the nights out, the fun, the "anything goes" mantra, live football in the bars, some great expats I've got to meet, get to know and enjoy time with (especially you boys at Le Pub, including @misteregg of course), the leisurely breakfasts on Jomtien beach, the trips to Hua Hin and other places around Thailand, the peace and quiet in my condo and the fantastic view over the ocean, playing pool with the girls, some great food and a general relaxed way of life. One major negative for me, while also being a positive, is the weather. For me, it's a positive compared to the horrible weather in England from October to March/April but a negative inasmuch as even in the high season it can get too hot and humid (for me), which breeds lethargy, laziness and a "can't be arsed" attitude. It's annoying having a shower, going out and within 10 minutes sweating like a pig and feeling uncomfortable. Overall though, Thailand wins. Another negative and something that can't be changed of course is the time difference between Thailand and England as far as football is concerned. Saturday is great, with games kicking off at 9 or 10 pm Thai time and I love those nights at Le Pub watching the games live. The problem is the 7.45 pm and 8 pm midweek kickoffs, especially the Champions League games, which are just too late to watch live. The other negatives are minor really, but it's frustrating dealing with the Thai's at times - getting a straight answer, getting an answer to the actual question I've asked, getting the meal I ordered in the correct order, the chateau shite red wine that's served at gogo's (not at your pub Phil, that's very drinkable), greedy girls at gogo's who's only motive is getting lady drinks, dog shit on the paths of Beach Road in Jomtien (and therefore the Soi dogs themselves, they should all be shot), stinking drains, uneven footpaths, the standard of driving, live electric cables hanging head height, Thai's timekeeping and corrupt cops. Overall, Thailand wins. There are negatives in every country, they're just different negatives. The overriding positive for me are the girls. The fact that one can get to know and spend time with lovely girls in their 20's and 30's who treat you as a person, show respect, have a laugh and don't turn their nose up, ignore you and/or treat one like an old pervert as the same aged girls do in the west. I just love their slim bodies, skin, beautiful black hair, personalities and outlook on life. While in UK since February, I've kept in touch with quite a few girls who's contact details I kept. I've really felt for them during the virus crisis, as the government have obviously done diddly to help them. Without exception they've all asked or hinted for money as they don't have anything to survive on if they're not earning from their bars or restaurants. It's a dilemma as they've had a real need with no method of income and no government support. I debated it with myself over a few days and did feel sorry for them. I did help a few of them. Those that I felt warranted it based on their attitudes towards me when I was there and they were so grateful. One has a kid living with her, her husband did a bunk. Another is the restaurant girl who is a longer term project. As mentioned above, her restaurant closed due to the virus and even when they couldn't open the farang boss didn't because it's primarily a farang restaurant and there were very few farang around. She could stay there free of charge, as all the waitresses could before, but they had to buy their own food and contribute to the utility bills. So 3 weeks ago she went back to Sisaket to her grandparents until the restaurant re-opens. She's working on the farm, sending me pics of cows and pigs. She's an absolute stunner, very intelligent (has 2 degrees and she runs the accounts for both the restaurants the owner has) and a solid "good" girl. Well, this post got much bigger than I thought it would, but that's my update. Hope I didn't go off topic in my own thread too much and the sections on my mum got much bigger than I'd intended, but relating the whole episode has been somewhat therapeutic. So, as things stand, I'll be back over in September/October (as long as travel is allowed by then and I don't have to do 14 days quarantine on arrival) so look forward to seeing many of you guys then. 8 4 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Sorry for your loss Britboy. Thanks for taking the time to post. 😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenkia Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Sorry for your loss mate. My mum also had a severe stroke, she went into a coma and died 2 days later. She was just 54 years old. This was about 25 years ago. She was only 3 years older than I am now. It just hits you out of the blue. RIP your mum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Great update....thanks for the post again and sorry about your Mom. Mine went Dec 10th, I am thankful like you I got to spend some quality time with her along with my wife who for sure, I could not have gotten through this with out her. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickrock Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Never met you brit boy but went through a similar thing with my mum 2 years ago at least the stroke was pretty quick my mum had a cancer of the brain stem and she went down hill slowly over several years the last year was Hell couldn't eat etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Good to hear from you Britboy. Sorry for your loss. Hope to catch you again this winter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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