fygjam Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 49 minutes ago, fforest said: I have a PHD in critical thinking.....No more research is needed... Heck I should be a advisor to Presidents and be giving seminars... That would be "Person with Hysterical Delusions" I take it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Britain first to approve COVID-19 vaccine targeting Omicron variant The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority – which was the first in the world to approve an original COVID-19 jab – has granted a conditional authorisation to the vaccine, made by Moderna, which targets both the original strain of the virus and Omicron BA.1. https://www.watoday.com.au/world/europe/britain-first-to-approve-coronavirus-vaccine-targeting-omicron-variant-20220816-p5ba3j.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 So who intends to have a fourth jab? I'm undecided at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingboy Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bazle said: So who intends to have a fourth jab? I'm undecided at the moment. I only had 2 shots, was never planning on a third. Got COVID over a month ago, and let me tell you, it was no joke. Finally feel like I did before, and cough seems to be gone. Was in very bad shape for a good 11-12 days. Last jab was late September, I wonder if a 3rd would have reduced my symptoms….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I had 2 shots, but don't plan on getting any more unless required to do so. I'm in decent shape so that for me the risk/benefit of the vaccine vs catching the milder China plague variants has swung the other way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazle said: So who intends to have a fourth jab? I'm undecided at the moment. I've had 3 jabs, just recently had covid for the second time, different variant and it hit me in different ways than the original Delta one did. The Delta was much more severe by way of symptoms, I "lost" 2-3 days where I have not much memory other than in my waking hours, watching the clock tick by hoping that I'm getting better rather than any worse. This variant "BA5" the symptoms were relatively light, but they seem to be longer lasting and create longer term muscle fatigue and tiredness with more "cold like" effects rather than the full blown flu. Ultimately, I believe the jabs reduced the symptoms of BA5 somewhat. If someone had offered me the same for the Delta back then, then I'd have snapped it up immediately. the thing I noticed most about BA5 is that one doesn't just "snap out of it" over a period of 3 days like Delta, recovery is much slower and more gradual, but taking Vitamin C, keeping hydrated etc did help, but consider tnat it may have been a placebo effect though. I'll go for a fourth booster if offered. If, by chance a "worse" variant emerges then IMO some protection is better than none. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maipenrai Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I had a fourth jab in July - free and easy so why not, and maybe it'll look better to whomever is checking when I travel again in December; I did catch Covid in late March but have been fine since, although I do have friends or acquaintances who have had it more than once now but with mild symptoms. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Ill probably have it, but doubt it will be until I return home from Thailand. I have had the others, so one more wont hurt, I guess. There is bound to be a spike of Covid around Xmas time and the winter months. The infection rate has dropped considerably over the last 4 weeks in UK, maybe because more people are spending time outdoors and have windows open due to the heat, who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 7:15 AM, Bazle said: So who intends to have a fourth jab? I'm undecided at the moment. Interesting to see that Dr John Campbell has decided he's not going to have it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bazle said: Interesting to see that Dr John Campbell has decided he's not going to have it. You know his Dr title is nothing to do with medicine . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Stillearly said: You know his Dr title is nothing to do with medicine . He has got a diploma in nursing though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 hours ago, bob lt said: He has got a diploma in nursing though. A PhD in Nursing Education actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxyhog Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I had my 4th shot at the beginning of the month. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Wifey and I have both had 4 shots, that is enough for me personally. No more. Yeah big news around here is that the " fancy dancy" all in one flu shot/covid variant is coming this fall. Edited August 20, 2022 by Yessongs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bazle said: A PhD in Nursing Education actually. He actually has a Diploma in nursing from the University of London, a Batchelor of Science in biology from the Open University, a Master of Science in health science from the University of Lancaster and a Ph.D. in nursing education from the University of Bolton. A professional but not a Doctor of Medicine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, bob lt said: He actually has a Diploma in nursing from the University of London, a Batchelor of Science in biology from the Open University, a Master of Science in health science from the University of Lancaster and a Ph.D. in nursing education from the University of Bolton. A professional but not a Doctor of Medicine. I would believe what he says about Covid more than what my GP might have to say. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Bazle said: I would believe what he says about Covid more than what my GP might have to say. The only people I trust about Covid are conspiracy theorist who post on Twitter...And David Icke... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 15 hours ago, bob lt said: He has got a diploma in nursing though. Then why not call himself Nursie 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 As with previous vaccines, there will be questions about the composition of any new vaccines and possible side effects. What has changed, is the notion that they contain a microchip. I think we can put that conspiracy to bed at last, or that the vaccines contain the Monkeypox virus. As the symptoms of the BA strains of Covid are now more Flu like, and less life threatening, so maybe, there will be less take up of this new Moderna vaccine. Personally, just as I have an annual Flu jab, I have been expecting something similar for Covid. Regarding the video, my only concern was about what appears to be quite a small number of people that it has been tested on. That said, I then ask myself whether the UK Govt would allow a vaccine to be openly distributed if there were any imminent dangers attached. We are assuming or hoping that there will not be a future Covid pandemic with a new strain. The developments of new vaccines will always be months behind and we don't know what is around the corner. My logic, Personally is this....... I have had three vaccinations to date, and I have not had Covid (that I know of). Just in the same way that I have not had Flu for over 5 years since having an annual Flu jab. Now this could be pure coincidence or the result of immunisation. I have no way of knowing for sure. As an older person and more vulnerable, I will most likely take up the "offer" of this 4th jab in the autumn along with my annual Flu jab. If I were in a younger, perhaps healthier age group, I am not sure what I would do. But I feel that vaccines are going to be very much part of the "living with Covid" strategy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 9:15 AM, Bazle said: So who intends to have a fourth jab? I'm undecided at the moment. Decided months ago that unless something substantially changed, I wouldn't get getting another booster. Nevermind the booster they will offer in the UK is for variants that are no even applicable ffs. Like masks, each to their own, but me personally, no. A booster vaccine that doesn't stop transmission against current strains, or do much else IMO. We've had Covid this year, Sa has twice. Had worse colds TBH. No, if people want to continue getting the jabs, crack on. If I was particularly susceptible to respiratory viruses I probably would. But I'm not, so I won't. My daughter never has and never will as it currently stands. But again, to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krapow Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Campbell probably thinks Covid has been the best thing to ever happen to him, such is the amount of hits he gets, and I assume profits from. You can see he has been taught how to teach, such is how he presents his videos, in a way you can understand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 5:35 PM, Bazle said: I would believe what he says about Covid more than what my GP might have to say. I wouldn't. He makes the data analysis easy to understand, but that's about all. He puts a disclaimer on his YT channel. "These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider." Being able to teach foreign nurses is different from being a fully qualified epidemiologist. The Nursing phd takes as little as 4 years, getting to consultancy level in professional medicine in any specialised stream takes considerably longer, I don't think there is a consultancy level "nursing educator" that is achievable as in the same way there is a consultancy level in Critical Care or oncology etc. etc. Nursing education is usually non clinical managment led by individual trusts, a Nurse educator forms part of that team, phd or not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Butch said: I wouldn't. He makes the data analysis easy to understand, but that's about all. He puts a disclaimer on his YT channel. "These media including videos, book, e book, articles, podcasts are not peer-reviewed. They should never replace individual clinical judgement from your own health care provider. No media-based material on this channel is suitable for using as professional medical advice. All comments are also for educational purposed only and must never replace advice from your own health care provider." Being able to teach foreign nurses is different from being a fully qualified epidemiologist. The Nursing phd takes as little as 4 years, getting to consultancy level in professional medicine in any specialised stream takes considerably longer, I don't think there is a consultancy level "nursing educator" that is achievable as in the same way there is a consultancy level in Critical Care or oncology etc. etc. Nursing education is usually non clinical managment led by individual trusts, a Nurse educator forms part of that team, phd or not. He is also selective upon what he focusses on. EG. He repeatedly said that the vaccine is for B1 strain and we currently have no problem with B1, but swiftly brushes over the fact that it is also very effective against B4 and B5 strains which is what is way more important and probably why it has been authorised for use. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazle Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Butch said: Being able to teach foreign nurses is different from being a fully qualified epidemiologist. My GP is not a fully qualified epidemiologist either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob lt Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 5:35 PM, Bazle said: I would believe what he says about Covid more than what my GP might have to say. I guess you do not have a high opinion of your GP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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