Lemondropkid Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, KhunDon said: So you’re not pregnant then. Phew, that’s a relief. 🤣 Yes, but it was only a very little prick. Edited October 29, 2020 by Lemondropkid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Do your knuckles drag on the ground? The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neanderthals A recent genetic association study identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure after infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARSCoV-2). A separate study (COVID-19 Host Genetics Initiative) comprising 3,199 hospitalized patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and control individuals showed that this cluster is the major genetic risk factor for severe symptoms after SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization. Here we show that the risk is conferred by a genomic segment of around 50 kilobases in size that is inherited from Neanderthals and is carried by around 50% of people in south Asia and around 16% of people in Europe. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2818-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washedup Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Knuckle draggers a plenty where I live..more so the women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWA Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/28/2020 at 10:03 AM, fygjam said: It is not up to me to provide the evidence to support your bogus argument. You want to claim high false positive rates, provide the evidence or accept you are wrong. You never answered the question you quoted which was: "Are you honestly saying your googling didn't throw up any discussions which emphasised a reasonable possibility of false positives?" Safe to say they did I think but you chose to ignore them for your own petty reasons. The Lancet published an interesting one at the end of last month which said preliminary estimates were false positives of between 0.8% and 4% which it described as a "significant proportion". It's not 30% - 40% but I never mentioned these numbers just that there were "lots" and The Lancet report seems to agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydeste Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Have a look at this. It explains is a clear and easily understandable way one of the problems with the PCR tests. The Ct ...... Thanks for that, I found it interesting and enforces what @fygjam describes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, KWA said: You never answered the question you quoted which was: "Are you honestly saying your googling didn't throw up any discussions which emphasised a reasonable possibility of false positives?" Safe to say they did I think but you chose to ignore them for your own petty reasons. The Lancet published an interesting one at the end of last month which said preliminary estimates were false positives of between 0.8% and 4% which it described as a "significant proportion". It's not 30% - 40% but I never mentioned these numbers just that there were "lots" and The Lancet report seems to agree. Ok, I'll answer your question. The first result which had actual numbers was the Australian evaluation. 0.0-2.5% false positives. The second was the Lancet article. 0.8-4.0% false positives. As I already had a figure of about 2.0% already in my mind, I've been keeping abreast of RT-PCR technology since the pandemic was declared, why would I need to look any further. Remember, back on March 10 I started a thread and the first post was about RT-PCR. If you think 4.0% false positives is a lot you'll really start screaming when you see the false negatives. From the Australian figures, 0.6-5.8% false negatives. A false positive might mean a bit of inconvenience for someone. A false negative could mean a person infecting 10, 20, 30 or more and possibly people dying. Going by the Australian figures and I can't be arsed looking any further, with false negatives greater than false positives the stats are probably understated. Let's see you and others start complaining about the false negative rate and the understated stats. Go on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Lemondropkid said: Yes, but it was only a very little prick. Yes, it does need to go right in up to the makers name, to be effective.😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Parisians taking the virus to the countryside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, Stillearly said: Parisians taking the virus to the countryside Ever heard of "La Toussaint" ? Or "All Saints Day" in English ? It's a long weekend in France. https://www.afrenchcollection.com/all-saints-day-la-toussaint-a-french-tradition/ As the lockdown starts from Friday, the Parisians probably decided to leave on Thursday.... as they know even under lockdown it is autorised to travel BACK home anytime later. You should know we're a bunch of very disciplined people 😁😁😁😁😁 More seriously, same happened in March / April, creating some frictions in the provinces. Same happens on every long weekend, july / august cris cross, etc... And if you go back earlier, same happened in 1939..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KWA Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 16 hours ago, fygjam said: Ok, I'll answer your question. Thank you. Glad to see you admit there is an issue. 16 hours ago, fygjam said: Let's see you and others start complaining about the false negative rate and the understated stats. Go on. Any false results are a cause for concern, and I made a comment on the false positives as a response where it was in context (mention of false positives in another test type). False negatives of course have far greater potential repercussions if infected Joe goes home or out in the street or to the pub and infects many more, but I wasn't responding to a post about that. I may if one turns up. The medical side is currently a subject with many grey areas and decrying valid points that don't entirely support your way of thinking ("Christ, not this bullshit again") does not advance the discussion IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessongs Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) Heard last night Taiwan has had no positive infections now for 200 straight days? Impressive if really true. Edited October 30, 2020 by Yessongs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Yessongs said: Heard last night Taiwan has had no positive infections now for 200 straight days? Impressive if really true. Having gone through SARS & H1NI they had a aggressive plan in place to deal with a serious pandemic. Being an island country also helps when controlling borders. Smart folks... the Taiwanese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Yessongs said: Heard last night Taiwan has had no positive infections now for 200 straight days? Impressive if really true. Agree mate.. . other counties are doing well.... even if they are an island or not. cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Social distancing in Belgium .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 All over Twitter that the U.K going back into a full lockdown next week ffs 🙈🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, roomark said: All over Twitter that the U.K going back into a full lockdown next week ffs 🙈🙈 No proper announcement, just briefings by "government sources" in a couple of newspapers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, roomark said: All over Twitter that the U.K going back into a full lockdown next week ffs 🙈🙈 f**k. Pretty bleak Christmas coming up for many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code_slayer_bkk Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Zeb said: f**k. Pretty bleak Christmas coming up for many. Agree ! Fucking sad to be honest .... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) I've seen a couple of interviews with this fella now (one a 90 minute talk) A must watch. https://www.crunchbase.com/person/michael-yeadon Edited October 31, 2020 by roomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) . Edited October 31, 2020 by roomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Stillearly said: No proper announcement, just briefings by "government sources" in a couple of newspapers We'll see I hope you are right. Can't go on with this shit show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Boris Johnson has bowed to pressure from his scientific advisers for new national lockdown restrictions, which are expected to be announced early next week, the Guardian has been told. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/save-christmas-with-covid-lockdown-in-england-experts-say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillearly Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, roomark said: We'll see I hope you are right. Can't go on with this shit show. I meant Bojo doesn't seem to want to give a clear message... it's a complete shit show Edited October 31, 2020 by Stillearly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomark Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Stillearly said: I meant Bojo doesn't seem to want to give a clear message... it's a complete shit show Really is I can't see anyway out of this.. People are just accepting it its getting fucking ridiculous. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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