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4 hours ago, Golfingboy said:

Thank you, appreciate it. Actually not looking forward to heat/humidity, been hearing most people with POTS become very intolerant. Some sweat too much, personally I haven’t sweated since maybe October! Yesterday was 18C and breezy, perfect. 
 

It’s just a bad spot I’m in, because I’m not THAT sick. Truth is, nobody cares, the doctors won’t find the cause, but just want to treat the symptoms. The Zoloft helped, been on a month or so, I can admit I was wrong for delaying it. But whatever I’ve got is nasty, when all your blood tests are great & people see photos saying you look better than ever…if only they knew. Anyway, been 4 months, some people been in bed since 2020, we will see…..

Spot on assessment, your progress is slow and steady buddy. That in and of itself, is a reason to be optimistic the way I see it. Just try to keep calm etc. I know it is easy for me to say, but....just curious is there a Dr. and is there some scientific evidence that can be reached by the Medical community, that can absolutely say for certain that someone does have long Covid?  I never really researched that. 

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I've was on 5mg Amlodipine for four weeks & 10mg for the last two weeks.

My BP is increasing....I've just been on Google and some BP meds can have the opposite effect of what they're supposed to do.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100819112222.htm

I think a call to the quack is in order tomorrow morning.

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Fat bastard or bald bastard?

 

Weight loss drugs Ozempic and Wegovy are reportedly making people’s hair fall out

It’s the weight loss drug Hollywood is going wild for, but people are starting to discover a very unfortunate side-effect.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/weight-loss-drugs-ozempic-and-wegovy-are-reportedly-making-peoples-hair-fall-out/news-story/763b2552d2a11c05095557d4ceadb7cb

 

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Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia, Bill Gifford

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Overview: A groundbreaking manifesto on living better and longer that challenges the conventional medical thinking on aging and reveals a new approach to preventing chronic disease and extending long-term health, from a visionary physician and leading longevity expert

“One of the most important books you’ll ever read.”—Steven D. Levitt, New York Times bestselling author of Freakonomics

Wouldn’t you like to live longer? And better? In this operating manual for longevity, Dr. Peter Attia draws on the latest science to deliver innovative nutritional interventions, techniques for optimizing exercise and sleep, and tools for addressing emotional and mental health.

For all its successes, mainstream medicine has failed to make much progress against the diseases of aging that kill most people: heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer’s disease, and type 2 diabetes.

Too often, it intervenes with treatments too late to help, prolonging lifespan at the expense of healthspan, or quality of life.

Dr. Attia believes we must replace this outdated framework with a personalized, proactive strategy for longevity, one where we take action now, rather than waiting.

The PDF -

 

Outlive - Science of Longevity - Peter Attia MD.pdf

More background here -

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/the-secret-to-living-longer-is-already-known-and-it-s-not-expensive-20230418-p5d1af.html

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23 hours ago, coxyhog said:

I've was on 5mg Amlodipine for four weeks & 10mg for the last two weeks.

My BP is increasing....I've just been on Google and some BP meds can have the opposite effect of what they're supposed to do.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100819112222.htm

I think a call to the quack is in order tomorrow morning.

Quack said stay on the Amlodipine & he's given me some Ramipril to take as well.

My BP was around 152/80 before the Amlodopine & Saturday it averaged at 169/90.I stopped the Amlodopine on Saturday & today it was 159/83.

The shit is supposed to make it go down.

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10 hours ago, lazarus said:

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Ive been eating the veggie option most days on the rig,with include mung bean,kidney bean,black eyed pea and chick pea mostly, they cook it in lots of veg and make some sort of curry,i add tobasco and white pepper to make it more spicy,enjoyed those meals a lot and felt better for it,4 weeks of it.

Protein comes from eggs and fish.

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21 minutes ago, Phantom51red said:

Ive been eating the veggie option most days on the rig,with include mung bean,kidney bean,black eyed pea and chick pea mostly, they cook it in lots of veg and make some sort of curry,i add tobasco and white pepper to make it more spicy,enjoyed those meals a lot and felt better for it,4 weeks of it.

Protein comes from eggs and fish.

I regularly eat hummus for lunch,lots of chickpeas,added benefit is it's bloody lovely.

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44 minutes ago, coxyhog said:

Quack said stay on the Amlodipine & he's given me some Ramipril to take as well.

My BP was around 152/80 before the Amlodopine & Saturday it averaged at 169/90.I stopped the Amlodopine on Saturday & today it was 159/83.

The shit is supposed to make it go down.

I’m on 5 mg of Amlodipine and I average 130 to 140.

Massive drop from over 200.

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1 hour ago, galenkia said:

I’m on 5 mg of Amlodipine and I average 130 to 140.

Massive drop from over 200.

I would think that being a teetotal veggie helps as well....can't see me doing that.

Full of admiration for you though mate.

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3 hours ago, coxyhog said:

I would think that being a teetotal veggie helps as well....can't see me doing that.

Full of admiration for you though mate.

I think a lot of my blood pressure was stress related from trying to deal with my sister’s cancer.

Now I can handle it better and am being counseled about it with the lady that helped me with my alcohol addiction before. Talking to someone can really help you.

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A good piece about exercise. Although it covers things most of us are probably already aware of. Yet, a good reminder on the significance and role it plays in good health. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/04/26/addiction-recovery-exercise-treatment/

 

Exercises like jogging or weight training may help addiction recovery

Adding simple workouts to treatment improved recovery from a variety of substance-use disorders, including to cocaine, opioids, cannabis and alcohol

April 26, 2023 at 2:00 p.m. EDT
 
A study shows that people who exercised as part of their addiction treatment programs were more likely to reduce their substance use than those who didn’t. (iStock)
 
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At a moment when substance-use disorders and overdoses are on the rise, new research offers hope for the addicted: People who exercised as part of their addiction treatment programs were substantially more likely to reduce their substance use than those who didn’t.

 

The study, published Wednesday in PLOS One, found that incorporating simple workouts such as jogging or weight training into treatment improved the likelihood of recovery from a variety of substance-use disorders, including to cocaine, opioids, cannabis and alcohol.

 

“Exercise is fantastic medicine for those struggling to recover from their addiction,” said Jeremiah Weinstock, a psychology professor at St. Louis University, who studies addiction but was not involved with the new review.

The findings build on other research, some with animals, showing that exercise changes our brains and thinking in ways that can reduce drug cravings and relapse and might even stave off addictions in the first place.

 

Jogging toward recovery

The idea for the new study took root when Florence Piché, its lead author and a kinesiology doctoral student at the University of Montreal, began outside work as a therapist at a Canadian substance-use disorder clinic. A student of exercise, she suspected physical activity would aid in patients’ recovery but wished for scientific backing.

She didn’t find as much as she’d hoped. Many previous scientific studies and reviews focused on exercise and tobacco, but not other drugs.

So she and her colleagues decided to write their own, gathering past experiments comparing substance-use disorder treatments that included exercise to those that didn’t. They wound up with 43 studies involving 3,135 men and women who’d sought treatment for dependence to many different addictive substances (except tobacco, which they thought had been reviewed enough).

The programs’ exercise routines varied but most commonly involved easy jogging about three times a week, or comparable amounts of weight training, walking, yoga or cycling.

The scientists then compared results, finding a decided advantage to exercise. In studies that quantified participants’ drug usage from start to end, people who exercised generally quit or reduced their use. Those who didn’t exercise typically didn’t reduce their drug usage as much.

“In the same treatment programs, people did better if there was physical activity,” Piché said.

 

How exercise changes the addicted brain

The review didn’t explore the question of how exercise — which involves mostly physical, not mental, exertion — might influence people’s willpower and drug cravings. But it did find that, in many of the included studies, people who exercised were more fit and less depressed by the study’s end.

But other recent research, looking more directly into what exercise does during recovery, has settled on a number of contributing effects.

“Exercise has so many benefits for those overcoming an addiction,” Weinstock said. “There is the immediate bump in mood after one’s workout, and, over time, exercise reduces depression and anxiety, which often co-occur with addiction. Exercise also helps the brain heal from the many damaging effects substance use has on our brains.”

In animal studies, for instance, heavy usage of drugs such as cocaine, methamphetamine or alcohol weakens or kills brain cells and reduces neurogenesis, the process by which brains create new neurons. Exercise, on the other hand, increases neurogenesis, and bolsters the health of existing neurons.

The effects can be especially striking in alcohol-use disorders and recovery. In a 2019 review, the authors concluded that “exercise is associated with brain health, alcohol is not, and the mechanisms by which exercise benefits the brain directly counteract the mechanisms by which alcohol damages it.”

“There have been multiple recent studies suggesting exercise is helpful for treating alcohol use disorder,” said J. Leigh Leasure, a neuroscience professor at the University of Houston and the review’s senior author.

 

Exercise can alter dopamine processing

But perhaps the most intriguing and consequential effects of exercise involve how it may change the brain’s reward system, which directs what we enjoy, want and seek out. Most substances of abuse wildly light up the reward system, and especially the production and uptake of dopamine, a neurotransmitter involved in reward processing. In effect, drugs make us — and lab animals — feel great and desire more.

But exercise can alter dopamine processing, potentially making exercise feel more pleasurable than drugs. In a telling 2018 rat study, when animals started running, they remodeled their dopamine system in ways that “could mediate exercise-induced attenuation of drug-seeking behavior,” the authors wrote.

“Our research shows that exercise can manipulate the brain’s dopamine signaling, which we know is involved and is dysfunctional in people who are addicted,” said Panayotis Thanos, a senior research scientist at the University of Buffalo and senior author of the rat study.

Exercise likewise seems to lessen relapses after animals have habituated to and then weaned from addictive drugs such as cocaine.

But the ideal types and amounts of exercise to bolster addiction treatment remain uncertain, Thanos and other scientists said, although his lab is in the middle of experiments designed to start answering those questions.

A more intractable concern is that people with substance-use disorders, even those seeking treatment, understandably may feel little motivation to exercise, Weinstock said. They might be feeling exhausted, defeated or overwhelmed. They also may have physical limitations.

He and his colleagues have been experimenting with monetary payments during treatment if people exercise, he said, which may help people start and then stay with an exercise routine, but, even then, programs probably need to be tailored to each individual’s fitness and interests.

 

The exercise-alcohol connection

Also, the physical activities studied in the new review and the related research involved were part of residential or well-supervised outpatient programs.

Whether people who just want to cut back on, for instance, alcohol or cannabis, should likewise deploy exercise to help them remains an open question, especially in terms of alcohol.

In some studies by Leasure’s group and others, healthy people who exercised tended also to be people who drank quite a bit. “Alcohol is different” from many other addictive substances, Leasure said, “and shows a positive relationship with physical activity.”

But the exercising drinkers in her and others’ studies were not seeking help for their drinking, she pointed out, suggesting that people who are trying to recover from alcohol-use disorders may respond differently to exercise.

For them, as for many others joining substance-use disorder programs, threading easy exercise into the program seems to amplify the benefits and up the chances the program meaningfully will help.

Do you have a fitness question? Email [email protected] and we may answer your question in a future column.

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My counselor Sian has put me in her relapse prevention program, a 10 week program. She knows how hard I am struggling to deal with my sister’s cancer.

My biggest concern is when Jan passes I’ll fall apart and hit the self destruct button.

Because she is my only family, I will find it hard to have a reason to not implode.

Hopefully I can keep my shit together, but only time will tell.

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31 minutes ago, galenkia said:

My counselor Sian has put me in her relapse prevention program, a 10 week program. She knows how hard I am struggling to deal with my sister’s cancer.

My biggest concern is when Jan passes I’ll fall apart and hit the self destruct button.

Because she is my only family, I will find it hard to have a reason to not implode.

Hopefully I can keep my shit together, but only time will tell.

As people get older family and past friends drop off one by one by one....My folks are in their 80s and a huge chunk of their friends are dead along with most of their families....So this happens to everyone if they live to be old....

I know it's hard but try not to think it's just you....

Anyways hang in there...

 

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7 minutes ago, fforest said:

As people get older family and past friends drop off one by one by one....My folks are in their 80s and a huge chunk of their friends are dead along with most of their families....So this happens to everyone if they live to be old....

I know it's hard but try not to think it's just you....

Anyways hang in there...

 

The hardest part is I lost my parents in their 50’s, my sister will be 57, and I’m 54, so it’s making me think how much time I have left.

Especially when you consider my previous lifestyle.

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53 minutes ago, galenkia said:

The hardest part is I lost my parents in their 50’s, my sister will be 57, and I’m 54, so it’s making me think how much time I have left.

Especially when you consider my previous lifestyle.

Hang in there mate. Please.

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5 minutes ago, Krapow said:

I think like that too sometimes, the overdoses, IC, cardiac arrests etc etc, nevermind the just constant substance taking for decades. 

But, we've both stopped the bleed so to speak, now repairing past damage with healthy lifestyles. 

And you're doing brilliant, you've realised you're struggling, and it's life, we all do at different stages due to different things.

But you've made a conscious decision to reach out and get help, you haven't crumbled, you haven't reached for whatever substance as before. 

From the simple but superb little book - Charlie Mackesy, The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse

“What is the bravest thing you've ever said? asked the boy.
'Help,' said the horse.
'Asking for help isn't giving up,' said the horse. 'It's refusing to give up.

Very wise words indeed. :default_good:

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1 hour ago, Krapow said:

I think like that too sometimes, the overdoses, IC, cardiac arrests etc etc, nevermind the just constant substance taking for decades. 

But, we've both stopped the bleed so to speak, now repairing past damage with healthy lifestyles. 

And you're doing brilliant, you've realised you're struggling, and it's life, we all do at different stages due to different things.

But you've made a conscious decision to reach out and get help, you haven't crumbled, you haven't reached for whatever substance as before. 

From the simple but superb little book - Charlie Mackesy, The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse

“What is the bravest thing you've ever said? asked the boy.
'Help,' said the horse.
'Asking for help isn't giving up,' said the horse. 'It's refusing to give up.

Thanks Del, just concerned I’ll fall apart as I’ll have no one to think of.

All the time I have Jan it helps me keep my shit together.

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