lazarus Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 should help a few of the drippy outliers that piddle around on here to understand... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunDon Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Saw this on the news this evening. 6 million and rising! That’s twice the number the government predicted. I wonder what taxes are gonna have to go up to cover the bill, if and when this ends. 🤔 https://www.channel4.com/news/more-than-6-million-workers-being-paid-by-the-taxpayer-under-governments-furlough-scheme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Well, well, finally somebody who dares to say it, and with who I fully agree. https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/global-virus-lockdown-was-madness/ Global virus lockdown was ‘madness’ Renowned German scientist calls lockdown 'incredibly harmful' to individuals and economy Note that Pr Raoult in France always had a similar opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Just now, Thai Spice said: Well, well, finally somebody who dares to say it, and with who I fully agree. https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/global-virus-lockdown-was-madness/ Global virus lockdown was ‘madness’ Renowned German scientist calls lockdown 'incredibly harmful' to individuals and economy Note that Pr Raoult in France always had a similar opinion. Does this mean that they are correct or just reflect your view? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Starshine said: Does this mean that they are correct or just reflect your view? Read the article, and make up your OWN mind. My view is simple : If YOU believe this is a dramatically dangerous virus, stay home but dont oblige people with a different view to follow your "believe". And I am sure correct about the fearmongering, the media dramatization, and the politicians covering their ass with little or no clue about the problem . The politician being advised by experts whose main preoccupation was not to take any legal risk, not to say anything that could be turned against them in the future, and try to look good in the eyes of the politicians which can always be handy for your future career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: My view is simple : Yes it is...very simple 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyman Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 6 hours ago, roomark said: Costa chaos as motorists queue for HOURS at drive-throughs https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8284275/Costa-chaos-motorists-queue-HOURS-drive-throughs.html?ito=native_share_article-top Sad bastards Why are the Police even allowing that... I'd taser the lot of them .. 🙄 So would I. Or are you talking about the motorists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 8 hours ago, dcfc2007 said: The number of people in Germany who have been infected with Covid-19 could be more than 10 times the number of officially confirmed cases, according to a new study. Researchers from the University of Bonn estimate that about 1.8 million have contracted the coronavirus. Germany has about 160,000 confirmed cases. The study - which has yet to be peer reviewed - focused on a sample of 919 people living in a town in the municipality of Heinsberg, one of the worst-hit areas of the country. The study also found that more than one in five people infected showed no symptoms. Germany is starting to ease its lockdown measures. Zoos, museums and hairdressers have reopened, with some students also returning to school. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52525531 More possible evidence that Covid-19 is much more widespread than thought, and that the mortality rate is much lower than first reported. Correct, Germany is opening up to fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 2:43 PM, Thai Spice said: Why would anybody go there ? Really ? Plenty of people go there. Yes Amigo really. You could just as easily get pummeled in Bali or Jakarta I suppose. But you know better than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Thai Spice said: Read the article, and make up your OWN mind. My view is simple : If YOU believe this is a dramatically dangerous virus, stay home but dont oblige people with a different view to follow your "believe". And I am sure correct about the fearmongering, the media dramatization, and the politicians covering their ass with little or no clue about the problem . The politician being advised by experts whose main preoccupation was not to take any legal risk, not to say anything that could be turned against them in the future, and try to look good in the eyes of the politicians which can always be handy for your future career. A bit confusing reply, but I'll lay it off to your second language challenges. So, in a nutshell do you think your basic liberty's are being trampled by this shelter in place and what specific liberty's are being trampled. ie restaurant, bar closures, can't get your hair cut, can't buy my JD, wearing a mask that makes you look a right dick. 😀 Thanks in advance for your prompt reply, Amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Starshine said: My view is simple : Yes it is...very simple 1 hour ago, Starshine said: 4 minutes ago, Kathmandu said: A bit confusing reply, but I'll lay it off to your second language challenges. So, in a nutshell do you think your basic liberty's are being trampled by this shelter in place and what specific liberty's are being trampled. ie restaurant, bar closures, can't get your hair cut, can't buy my JD, wearing a mask that makes you look a right dick. 😀 Thanks in advance for your prompt reply, Amigo. Try to agree boys..... Simple or confusing ? English is supposed to be your first language ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Kathmandu said: Correct, Germany is opening up to fast. No it's not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Thai Spice said: Read the article, and make up your OWN mind. My view is simple : If YOU believe this is a dramatically dangerous virus, stay home but dont oblige people with a different view to follow your "believe". And I am sure correct about the fearmongering, the media dramatization, and the politicians covering their ass with little or no clue about the problem . The politician being advised by experts whose main preoccupation was not to take any legal risk, not to say anything that could be turned against them in the future, and try to look good in the eyes of the politicians which can always be handy for your future career. I did. It appeared to relate to the situation in Germany. What's that got to do with anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: Try to agree boys..... Simple or confusing ? English is supposed to be your first language ? You just sound foolish now to the nuances of English language 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Its modelling envisaged Sweden paying a heavy price for its rejection of lockdown, with 40,000 Covid deaths by 1 May and almost 100,000 by June. The latest figure for Sweden is 2,680 deaths, with daily deaths peaking a fortnight ago. So Imperial College’s modelling – the same modelling used to inform the UK response – was wrong, by an order of magnitude. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-tames-its-r-number-without-lockdown More evidence to suggest that the Imperial College London Coronavirus model wildly overestimated the amount of deaths and infections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code_slayer_bkk Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 A Thai gal came over last night .. we were talking and of course the Wuhan virus came up ... It was her belief that the Wuhan Virus was started in the USA .... that the Americans have caused this .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfc2007 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, code_slayer_bkk said: A Thai gal came over last night .. we were talking and of course the Wuhan virus came up ... It was her belief that the Wuhan Virus was started in the USA .... that the Americans have caused this .... If the yanks really wanted to create a deadly virus to attack china, they would have wiped them off the face of the earth. Only the Chinese could design a deadly bioweapon that ends up causing a sore throat and a dry cough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, fygjam said: I did. It appeared to relate to the situation in Germany. What's that got to do with anywhere else. Well, you could give that answer (yours) for any country ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Spice Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: Its modelling envisaged Sweden paying a heavy price for its rejection of lockdown, with 40,000 Covid deaths by 1 May and almost 100,000 by June. The latest figure for Sweden is 2,680 deaths, with daily deaths peaking a fortnight ago. So Imperial College’s modelling – the same modelling used to inform the UK response – was wrong, by an order of magnitude. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sweden-tames-its-r-number-without-lockdown More evidence to suggest that the Imperial College London Coronavirus model wildly overestimated the amount of deaths and infections. That is well know and documented. Too bad many people believed those numbers blindly.... 9 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said: If the yanks really wanted to create a deadly virus to attack china, they would have wiped them off the face of the earth. Only the Chinese could design a deadly bioweapon that ends up causing a sore throat and a dry cough. You should check in depth the history of the Wuhan laboratory ...... And from different sources ! BTW, if it was the Chinese who "created" artificially this virus they have succeeded. In 2 months they broke the back of the world's top nations economy... With little suffering themselves. If a machiavelic mind had masterminded this, it was a total succes.... Or was it just a test run ? Everybody knows thats China aims at being the world's top power economically and military. And they WILL get there. But that's another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Thai Spice said: Try to agree boys..... Simple or confusing ? English is supposed to be your first language ? Who says any of us is suppose to agree with the other? You? Who says you make the rules here? You? I asked you specific questions and so far your calculator hasn't bailed you out yet. TBH amigo, you're making the orange dudes case and you don't even know it. Pull yourself together ffs. Edited May 5, 2020 by Kathmandu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathmandu Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Starshine said: You just sound foolish now to the nuances of English language 🤣 Yeah, thinks hes Mr. Hip. 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, code_slayer_bkk said: A Thai gal came over last night .. we were talking and of course the Wuhan virus came up ... It was her belief that the Wuhan Virus was started in the USA .... that the Americans have caused this .... That's what the Chinese said... https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/chinese-officials-blame-us-army-for-coronavirus-67267 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fygjam Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Well, well, finally somebody who dares to say it, and with who I fully agree. https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/global-virus-lockdown-was-madness/ Global virus lockdown was ‘madness’ Renowned German scientist calls lockdown 'incredibly harmful' to individuals and economy Note that Pr Raoult in France always had a similar opinion. 1 hour ago, Thai Spice said: Well, you could give that answer (yours) for any country ? Because you posted a headline saying Global virus lockdown was ‘madness’ with whom you fully agreed when, as I said, it related to Germany. I'd like to know if the R0 value they are quoting was known at the time or has it been calculated with the benefit of hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forcebwithu Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, code_slayer_bkk said: A Thai gal came over last night .. we were talking and of course the Wuhan virus came up ... It was her belief that the Wuhan Virus was started in the USA .... that the Americans have caused this .... My lady told me her aunt is of the same belief. I attribute it to the fact they're undereducated and believe pretty much anything their friends, or govt tell them without question. Sadly that describes a great number of those in the west too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobob Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Thai Spice said: Read the article, and make up your OWN mind. My view is simple : If YOU believe this is a dramatically dangerous virus, stay home but dont oblige people with a different view to follow your "believe". And I am sure correct about the fearmongering, the media dramatization, and the politicians covering their ass with little or no clue about the problem . The politician being advised by experts whose main preoccupation was not to take any legal risk, not to say anything that could be turned against them in the future, and try to look good in the eyes of the politicians which can always be handy for your future career. lol.... pot...kettle...comes to mind here.....lol cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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